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Train blast was 'a plot to kill North Korea's leader'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/13/wkor13.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/06/13/ixworld.html ^ | June 13, 2004 | Sergey Soukhorukov

Posted on 06/12/2004 4:48:48 PM PDT by NCjim

Officials investigating the devastating North Korean train explosion in April now believe that the blast was an assassination attempt on the country's leader, Kim Jong-il.

At the time, the secretive Communist state described the explosion in the border town of Ryongchon as an accident. Electric cables were believed to have ignited a cargo of explosive chemicals and oil.

Now, however, officials close to the investigation believe that a mobile telephone was used to detonate the train's deadly cargo of ammonium nitrate and fuel. The remains of a mobile handset, with adhesive tape attached, have been found at the scene of the blast.

Hours before the train exploded, killing more than 160 people and injuring 1,300, Mr Kim passed through the town by train on his way back from China.

"They still don't know who planted the explosives, if indeed there were any," one official said. "It's very difficult to find any sign, as they would have used only a small amount to detonate a huge amount of ammonium nitrate.

"You don't even need TNT to detonate it - it is enough just to create a high temperature."

The official said that they were not yet totally convinced that the blast was an assassination attempt, but that the theory had become the main thrust of the secret inquiry. "A short-circuit might have been responsible, but evidence they have is quite convincing that it was not."

Mr Kim's itinerary was frequently altered for security reasons, he said, which probably saved his life.

The owner of the mobile telephone found at the scene had been traced and questioned, according to the official, but it was unclear what had happened to him.

It would not have been the first assassination attempt against Mr Kim, who succeeded his father Kim Il Sung as leader in 1994. At the end of the 1990s, a plan hatched by a number of Korean army generals was uncovered, and the conspirators arrested.

After they were interrogated, the generals were executed in Pyongyang's 150,000-capacity May Day Stadium. Petrol was poured over them and set alight, burning them alive.

In light of the Ryongchon evidence, Pyongyang has banned North Koreans from using mobile telephones, hoping to prevent a repeat attack. The sudden decision, made a fortnight ago, dealt a severe blow to the state-owned mobile telephone operator, the only one in the country, which had just started to make a profit.

Initially, the mobile service was suspended. Later, handsets were confiscated from nearly 10,000 private and corporate owners by officials from the Ministry of People's Security (MPS). The official reason given was that the regime was struggling to intercept and control conversations, given the explosion in mobile telephone customers.

Aggrieved North Koreans, who had to pay about $360 (£200) for a simple handset - the average monthly wage is about $4 (£2.20) - complain that they have been left in the lurch.

They are unaware of the secret inquiry into the train blast - indeed most ordinary North Koreans know little about the explosion. The strictly-controlled state media has never mentioned that Mr Kim's train passed through Ryongchon a few hours before the explosion.

"I really needed the mobile for work," said one employee of a North Korean-Chinese joint venture. "Now I waste a huge amount of time sitting in the office waiting for calls instead of doing real business."

Foreigners are still allowed to use mobile telephones but must buy them locally and pay higher prices for handsets and calls. They are charged up to £470 for the phone and £550 for the Sim-card.


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KEYWORDS: nktrainwreck; northkorea; plot
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1 posted on 06/12/2004 4:48:48 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: NCjim; TigerLikesRooster; AdmSmith

Hmmm..............


2 posted on 06/12/2004 4:50:27 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: NCjim

I findit quite interesting that they would make such an announcement. Usually, something like this means they've caught someone and the execution is pending.


3 posted on 06/12/2004 4:51:08 PM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: NCjim

Ah, now they are floating the assassination story in order to cover the "WMD"s.

It must be serious for them to do so, word of assasination attemps tends to trigger more.


4 posted on 06/12/2004 4:54:06 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NCjim

I see China's hand in this. Seems like they did it in an incompetent way, though.


5 posted on 06/12/2004 4:54:59 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NCjim

A country where people are eating tree bark, the cell phones must be limited.


6 posted on 06/12/2004 4:55:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
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To: NCjim
The official said that they were not yet totally convinced that the blast was an assassination attempt, but that the theory had become the main thrust of the secret inquiry.

Don't tell anyone about this, it's a secret!

7 posted on 06/12/2004 4:56:36 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: NCjim

Apparently not everyone considers Mr. Kim-che breath, a sweet, cuddly little fuzz ball.


8 posted on 06/12/2004 4:57:43 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (In Kerry's world, the little people are good for nothing except providing spare parts for big people)
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To: Brilliant

It wasn't China....if it was....... Kimmy would be dead.......this was the locals trying to rid themselves of their nutcase leader.


9 posted on 06/12/2004 4:58:57 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: NCjim
The clymers are ridiculous!
You could never make this stuff up...

Our leftists want this for US!

Semper Fi
10 posted on 06/12/2004 4:59:01 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: NCjim

I'm less than inclined to believe a word that Kim's minions say. Seems that he's been lurking at DU, though, since they were saying that it was a plot by GW to kill him back when it happened.


11 posted on 06/12/2004 5:00:39 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: NCjim

If you use a cell phone to detonate, it doesn't make sense thta it detonated 1 1/2 hours too late.


12 posted on 06/12/2004 5:00:41 PM PDT by Ranger
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To: Brilliant
I see China's hand in this.

You may be right, but even if this is true, you know the blame will be cast across the Pacific ...

13 posted on 06/12/2004 5:00:41 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ( "While I take inspiration from the past, like most Americans, I live for the future. " - R. Reagan)
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To: NCjim
The owner of the mobile telephone found at the scene had been traced and questioned, according to the official, but it was unclear what had happened to him.

Gee, I wonder?
14 posted on 06/12/2004 5:01:18 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: NCjim

I don't buy this. The Syrian connection and the WMD'S? No it was not an attempt to kill Kim Dong ding dong dingaling a dong or whatever his name is.


15 posted on 06/12/2004 5:02:14 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Husker24
You beat me to it!

"The owner of the mobile telephone found at the scene had been traced and questioned, according to the official, but it was unclear what had happened to him."
16 posted on 06/12/2004 5:02:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
The owner of the mobile telephone found at the scene had been traced and questioned, according to the official, but it was unclear what had happened to him.

Now there's a line that will send shivers up anyone's spine.

I imagine that just on general principles this guy is going to be taught several new and interesting ways of feeling pain.

17 posted on 06/12/2004 5:03:11 PM PDT by Ronin (We are in a war. The enemy is Islam. It's time we stopped pretending otherwise.)
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To: tet68; Allan; Mitchell

Could be a cover to hide the WMD/Syrian issue...but the WMD reports seem to come from flaky news sources so far...

Could be a cover to instigate some kind of purge, or one faction trying to blame another...

Could be a cover by those who feel their lives or careers are better served blaming terrorists than admitting negligence...

The fact that Kim travelled through there earlier, and his train security procedures might have messed up schedules promulgating an accident sounded plausible to me...an accident doesn't preclude the possibility that the trains happened to carry WMD...

All very interesting...


18 posted on 06/12/2004 5:03:41 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: NCjim

Doesn't the fuel and fertilizer need to be mixed to become the explosive? Assuming so, what the heck would they do that for and why transport it by train after mixing it??? As Buck Turgidson said, "I smell a big fat Commie Rat."


19 posted on 06/12/2004 5:05:12 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Ronald Wilson Reagan (1911-2004))
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
I don't buy this. The Syrian connection and the WMD'S? No it was not an attempt to kill Kim Dong ding dong dingaling a dong or whatever his name is.

Bingo.

Deflecting now that word's out about the WMD. First thing I thought when I read it.

20 posted on 06/12/2004 5:06:22 PM PDT by mitchbert
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To: Dog

Possibly someone in the NK military, but you'd think they'd not miss either. Obviously it was not the peasants. My money's still on the Chinese. Even if it were someone in the military, you can bet that they had the clearance from China.


21 posted on 06/12/2004 5:10:10 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Ronin

---The owner of the mobile telephone found at the scene had been traced and questioned, according to the official, but it was unclear what had happened to him.---

If a mobile phone was used to detonate the explosives would the man using it be stupid enough to use his own phone that was traceable directly to him?


22 posted on 06/12/2004 5:11:47 PM PDT by fiftymegaton (Don't be fooled 60's 'liberals' ARE communists)
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To: Shermy

All, very, very interesting-question is; how the heck would we recognize the truth, assuming that it ever leaked out?


23 posted on 06/12/2004 5:13:11 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (In Kerry's world, the little people are good for nothing except providing spare parts for big people)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Didn't the "Glorious" Leader invent cell phones?


24 posted on 06/12/2004 5:15:57 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: NCjim

If the take out Kim, then the question will be raised: "is Kim jung Il?" the answer will be, "no he's dead"


25 posted on 06/12/2004 5:20:01 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: Ronin

Poor Guy. Those people could teach Saddam's old torture crew a few things about inflicting pain.


26 posted on 06/12/2004 5:20:31 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (In Kerry's world, the little people are good for nothing except providing spare parts for big people)
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To: NCjim
If at first you don't succeed....My suggestion for getting rid of the little wart:


27 posted on 06/12/2004 5:20:42 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: NCjim
Lots of thoughts regarding this article. Who would've thought that mobile telephones would be available in the DPRK and how can you read about the execution of the KPA generals that plotted against little Kim and not get shivers.

N. Korea is the kind of nation as prison that Ronald Reagan had the courage to point an accusing finger at. The "elite intelligentsia" called him simplistic for his attitude, but there is no way to read an account such as this and not be reminded that evil is real. Those same "elites" should not be surprised that they hold little sway over the hearts and minds of normal Americans.

28 posted on 06/12/2004 5:21:28 PM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: Dallas59

"Didn't the 'Glorious' leader invent cell phones?"

Al Gore didn't invent cell phones?


29 posted on 06/12/2004 5:24:50 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (In Kerry's world, the little people are good for nothing except providing spare parts for big people)
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To: NCjim

Why would the assassin(s) expect Kimmy boy to be visiting a large industrial-looking building at the end of a railroad spur?


30 posted on 06/12/2004 5:24:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

yeah, that investigative line sounds like Mr. Ruppert at "fromthewilderness.com" or Michael Moore.


31 posted on 06/12/2004 5:26:03 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (VRWC Founding Member)
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To: NCjim
"Aggrieved North Koreans, who had to pay about $360 (£200) for a simple handset - the average monthly wage is about $4 (£2.20) - complain that they have been left in the lurch.

7.5 years to pay for a cell phone? And here I thought Cingular was a rip off!

32 posted on 06/12/2004 5:31:11 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: NCjim
"They still don't know who planted the explosives, if indeed there were any," one official said. "It's very difficult to find any sign, as they would have used only a small amount to detonate a huge amount of ammonium nitrate.

What's the penalty for leaking info in North Korea? Evisceration? Impaling? Is it worth it? How easy is it for journalists to find a leaker that isn't uh... 'preapproved?'

33 posted on 06/12/2004 5:32:25 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; TigerLikesRooster; tallhappy; Cindy; Alamo-Girl

fyi


34 posted on 06/12/2004 5:36:05 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

Probably more to it than we know....


35 posted on 06/12/2004 5:40:16 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

No doubt. Has Kim made any statements lately? It's been a while since I've heard him rant.


36 posted on 06/12/2004 5:45:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

Pure Kimchee !

Stay safe Piasa !

37 posted on 06/12/2004 5:47:03 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: NCjim

It wasn't a near-miss, it was a warning.


38 posted on 06/12/2004 5:54:41 PM PDT by John Lenin (Don't worry about the horse being blind, just load up the wagon)
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To: piasa

Kooky Kim hasn't been out in public for awhile.
Several articles have caught my eye regarding
the explosion including this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1151159/posts


39 posted on 06/12/2004 6:05:14 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

thanks for the link


40 posted on 06/12/2004 6:06:58 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: John Lenin

Kim Chong Il- CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?


41 posted on 06/12/2004 6:12:43 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: fiftymegaton

Obviously not. But I doubt that is going to stop the NKs from ripping his fingernails out just on general principles.


42 posted on 06/12/2004 6:13:44 PM PDT by Ronin (We are in a war. The enemy is Islam. It's time we stopped pretending otherwise.)
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To: piasa

I would like to think it was the CIA or MI6 but I would guess it was Israeli MOSSAD or South Korea. There are some pieces missing in this puzzle.


43 posted on 06/12/2004 6:14:33 PM PDT by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: NCjim
Hmmm...sounds to me like this was the PERFECT spot the terrorist chose to test a WMD since it is very well guarded from the eyes of the world!
44 posted on 06/12/2004 6:23:53 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Squantos
by Sergey Soukhorukov

Or maybe it's a big steaming bowl of borscht.

45 posted on 06/12/2004 6:28:40 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Ronin

--The remains of a mobile handset, with adhesive tape attached, have been found at the scene of the blast. --

I would absolutely love to see this 'mobile handset' they supposedly found and the supposed owner they questioned. There are so many possibilities here. Why not take the phone home and dispose of it there? Who exactly was the owner(he had to at least have been living in North Korea since he was supposedly found and questioned)? If the phone was used in the detonation could it have been a clone? If the North Korean authorities traced it back to the 'owner' and he said something to the affect of, 'I don't know what you're talking about in fact I still have my phone', then the North Koreans certainly wouldn't want that to get out either. And also I would like to know exactly what is being broadcast in the North Korean state-run media right now and if they are implicating the US or anyone else for that matter. With all the differing reports coming out and considering the source(NK) it all amounts to basically nothing but speculation. Was there even a phone found? Who knows?


46 posted on 06/12/2004 7:09:01 PM PDT by fiftymegaton (Don't be fooled 60's 'liberals' ARE communists)
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To: nuconvert

Too bad they missed the bastard...


47 posted on 06/12/2004 7:26:08 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: nuconvert
The ChiComs may be coming to the conclusion that Kim is bad for business.
48 posted on 06/12/2004 7:35:06 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (NEOCON NOW)
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To: piasa

You're welcome.


49 posted on 06/12/2004 7:48:04 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: piasa; nuconvert
Thanks for flagging me. This article appears to confirm the earlier report by Chosun Ilbo, "North Korean Security Believes Ryongchon Explosion an Assassination Attempt(Cellphones now banned)."
50 posted on 06/12/2004 7:48:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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