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Lance Armstrong dragged into doping scandal
AFP ^ | June 13 2004

Posted on 06/13/2004 6:37:02 PM PDT by jern

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To: kdot
Didn't we go through this last year?

Actually we've went through this for three or four years now. You see, there are four problems with Lance Armstrong :

1)He's an American

2)He's dominating a huge European event.

3)Some of the biggest European names in cycling have had drug problems in the past five years.

4)He's on the verge of doing something that no European (or anybody else for that matter) has ever done.

Bob Roll said three or four years ago, that because of the factors above, that every year until he retires, the European press and other Europeans with a financial or nationalistic interest in the race are going to try and tie Armstrong to drugs, anyway they can. He said you'll hear articles, innuenedo, etc. coming out and it won't come out in the fall or winter or spring, it'll come out right before he's due to race.

In other words, the Europeans will try and distract him, even if they don't have solid allegations. It's not enough to change the stages/course of the Tour every year, here and there, to try and take away any advantages Armstrong has over his competition.

Low and behold, less than a month before the Tour, Bob Roll is right again, for the third or fourth year in a row. Armstrong is one of the most tested athletes in history. They want to him so badly, that if they had even the slimmest of things on him, he'd have been gone.

41 posted on 06/14/2004 7:16:39 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Trailerpark Badass
The French can't stand it that an American (from TEXAS, no less) is going to supplant Bernard Hinault by winning his sixth Tour.

I had a lengthy response above, but you summed it up in one sentence, lol.

42 posted on 06/14/2004 7:17:49 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Go Lance! Go USA!


43 posted on 06/14/2004 7:20:42 AM PDT by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Mean Maryjean
Also heard the other day that the USPS is dropping its sponsorship of Team USA...could it be that they don't want to get caught up in a "scandal?"

Like was said, their contract was up. I heard (take this as rumor) that they felt that because they really only get publicity during the tour (even if they are using him in their ad campaigns) that they felt their dollars would be better spent on a higher-visibility situation, such as NASCAR. They have a very limited amount of advertising, and with UPS, Fedex, DHL, etc. really leaning on them in the package arena, it would make sense to move their money elsewhere.

I implied earlier that all Europeans hate him. I shouldn't say that, many are rooting for him. There are, however, many who do not want him to win. Some of the media in Europe are just as bad as our media, and will print anything.

44 posted on 06/14/2004 7:24:31 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Baynative

A quote from a Champion from the 50's / early 60's is relevant here because......?


45 posted on 06/14/2004 7:26:22 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Vic3O3

Ping!

Semper Fi


48 posted on 06/14/2004 8:07:23 AM PDT by dd5339 ("We came to change a nation, instead we changed a world" President Reagan.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Bobke Rocks! Greg Lemond is a massive democrat and has spewed venom at Armstrong. Armstrong needs to keep up the hard work, ditch the bimbo Crow. I remember when Outside Magazine did an up and coming article on him. As a triathlete.
49 posted on 06/14/2004 8:30:17 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Foe Hammer!)
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To: dd5339

Y'all know, it ain't the Tour de France, it's the Tour de Lance! ;)


50 posted on 06/14/2004 12:13:10 PM PDT by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: jern
There's more to the story/book than meets the eye. Turns out it's written by a "journalist" that has had it in for Armstrong for years, including trying to disrupt press conferences after various stage/tour wins, accusing Armstrong in front of the media, etc.

Appears that he thinks he knows more about drug testing than Tour officials.

51 posted on 06/15/2004 6:19:44 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: wavin_goodbye
You criticize them and yet you act the same way. there has been no proof that armstrong did NOT do any of this.

Burden of proof has always been on the accuser. And there's no logical way for Armstrong to prove he DIDN'T do something.

53 posted on 07/05/2004 11:52:24 AM PDT by asgardshill
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To: wavin_goodbye

And by the by, welcome to FreeRepublic.


54 posted on 07/05/2004 11:53:00 AM PDT by asgardshill
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To: asgardshill
And by the by, welcome to FreeRepublic.

Woopsie. Spoke too soon I guess.

55 posted on 07/05/2004 12:02:05 PM PDT by asgardshill
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To: jern

Of course no one knows one way or the other, however, but I do think that it is safe to say that doping/steroids/performance enhancing drug use is widespread in many performance sports, including cycling, don't you?

If you DO agree with that, then you should probably expect that this sort of criticism goes with the territory. I don't know how you prove NON-use over a career.

There is only one reason why athletes use these techniques.....they work. So, an exceptional performer like Lance Armstrong, who denies the use of performance enhancing drugs, is naturally under suspicion. You can even create a statistical model which virtually proves such use......but, of course, that doesn't mean it's true.

The sports world needs to wake up. If you do it and get caught.....you are banned for life, and any titles you have won are stripped from you. That is the only way to handle it. Even the lowly defenseman in the NFL should be subject to this sanction

Maybe we can dream of a day when sports are a healthy competition between athletes with nothing but God-given abilities, but for now it is just a dream.

Today in sports it's victory to them with the best drugs.....where's the fun in that for participant or spectator?


56 posted on 07/05/2004 12:06:56 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: LadyDoc
But at the Tour de France in 1999 he failed a test for the corticosteroid triamcinolone ... although cycling's ruling body the UCI did not sanction him for the offence.

Triamcinolone is found in anti itch creams.

Yes indeed, as I recall, he tested positive, but well below the allowable level, due to use of an approved creme for saddle sores. The cream contained some corticosteroids.

This article is indeed a hit piece - trying to spin this well-known bit of old news as if he failed a drug test and got a pass from officials.

57 posted on 07/05/2004 12:22:37 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: jern

Seems that Armstrong will have a lucrative slander suit ahead, but no way he has been tested positive for drugs.


58 posted on 07/05/2004 12:24:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Vic3O3

The French can't stand it that an American (from TEXAS, no less) is going to supplant Bernard Hinault by winning his sixth Tour.

First off the French are as patriotic as you are blindly lead. Armstrong doesn't beat a Frenchman in the records, it's a Spaniard named Indurain. He won 5 and Lance tied last year...now he beat it. In terms of doping. Don't be so asinine (to those that think Lance is innocent). EVERYONE dopes on the tour. You can even keep certain drugs in your blood at a certain level since a certain mg is actually allowed. Don't point a finger at the French. How dumb is that? The number 1 critic is Greg Lemond the real American cycling hero. Lance threatened his business and called him saying he doped and that if he said anything he'd destroy his business. Lemond sayed quiet until now. Now why would an honest American lie? ;-)


60 posted on 07/25/2004 8:52:22 AM PDT by yi4444
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