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Peggy Noonan: The Ben Elliott Story (What I saw at the funeral)
Opinion Journal ^ | 06/14/04 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 06/13/2004 9:04:38 PM PDT by Pokey78

What was the meaning of the past remarkable nine days? You cannot stop the American people from feeling what they feel and showing it. From the crowds at Simi Valley to the hordes at the Capitol to the men and women who stopped and got out of their cars on Highway 101 to salute as Reagan came home--that was America talking to America about who America is.

It was a magnificent teaching moment for the whole country but most of all for the young, who barely remembered Ronald Reagan or didn't remember him at all. This week they heard who he was. The old ones spoke, on all the networks and in all the newspapers, and by the end of the week it was clear that Ronald Reagan had suddenly entered the Lincoln pantheon. By Friday it was no longer a question, as it had been for years, whether he was one of our top 10 presidents. It was a question only whether he was in the very top five or six--up there with Lincoln and Washington. An agreement had been reached: the 20th century came down to FDR and RWR.

What is important now is that we continue to speak of the meaning of his leadership. Not bang away about what a great guy he was--there are a lot of great guys--but what huge things he did, not because he had an "ideology" but because he had a philosophy, a specific one that had specific meaning. He was the great 20th-century conservative of America. He applied his philosophy to the realities of the world he lived in. In doing so he changed those realities, and for the better. This is what we must pass on.

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To: paulat

This is not her 'tribute' article - that was discussed here earlier - this is a 'wrap-up' from her point of view - and, IMHO, she's free to bash anybody she wants.


21 posted on 06/13/2004 9:46:14 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Reagan defeated communism while Kerry was kissing its arse.)
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To: sinkspur
To be fair, Peggy borrowed this phrase from Mark Steyn.

No, Reagan used this in one of his speeches during the 80s, or even before. Peggy and Mark both got it from RR.

22 posted on 06/13/2004 9:47:19 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Keith in Iowa

IMHO, she was classless.


23 posted on 06/13/2004 9:47:28 PM PDT by paulat
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To: ikka

Okie doke.


24 posted on 06/13/2004 9:49:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur
Uh Oh! borrowed?

I'm a bit disappointed in Peggy. This article didn't move me, but it did seem a good opportunity for her to name drop. Sad, for an old speech writer.

25 posted on 06/13/2004 9:53:38 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Pokey78

The cortege was coming toward the steps. We looked out the window: a perfect tableaux of ceremonial excellence from every branch of the armed forces. Mrs. Thatcher watched. She turned and said to me, "This is the thing, you see, you must stay militarily strong, with an undeniable strength. The importance of this cannot be exaggerated."

To my son, whose 17th birthday was the next day, she said, "And what do you study?" He tells her he loves history and literature. "Mathematics," she says. He nods, wondering, I think, if she had heard him correctly. She had. She was giving him advice. "In the world of the future it will be mathematics that we need--the hard, specific knowledge of mathematical formulae, you see." My son nodded: "Yes, ma'am." Later I squeezed his arm. "Take notes," I said. This is history.

Margaret Thatcher has a sense of forboding concerning the future. She has repeatedly stated nothing good will come over the long term from the EU and nothing good will come from British participation in the EU.

This is a very, very deeply held feeling of the Baroness.

26 posted on 06/13/2004 9:54:05 PM PDT by fso301
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To: ikka

Is it possible that she coined the phrase as one of his speechwriters? I don't have a bone to pick either way. I really do like the line and would like to give it a correct attribution. I had never heard it before.

For now, I will give it to RR.


27 posted on 06/13/2004 9:55:18 PM PDT by arjay ("Are we a government that has a country, or a country that has a government?" Ronald Reagan)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I'm a bit disappointed in Peggy. This article didn't move me, but it did seem a good opportunity for her to name drop. Sad, for an old speech writer.

Well, the article moved me. Every one of hers does.

And, for what it's worth, every great phrase is "borrowed."

28 posted on 06/13/2004 9:55:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Pokey78
I liked the column OK, but this was jarring and wrong sounding to me:

The Bushes don't know everyone. The Clintons knew Hollywood, but Hollywood didn't love them; it just embraced them. The Reagans were loved by the ones who knew them. It's nice when you see this. The last first couple of whom I think it could be said were the Kennedys.

29 posted on 06/13/2004 9:56:37 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Pokey78
"The men and women who stopped and got out of their cars on highway 101 to salute as Reagan came home"

That was something. I don't think I'll ever see anything like that again in my lifetime.

Great article-BUMP

30 posted on 06/13/2004 10:01:10 PM PDT by fly_so_free ("Ronald Reagan told the truth to a world made weary by lies"-Peggy Noonan)
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To: sinkspur
"I think of the moments of the past week in Washington: George Shultz reaching out spontaneously and with such heart to touch the coffin in the Rotunda. Al Haig too. I was there and saw how moved they were.

Al Haig has raced before the cameras since President Reagan died, and has done nothing but try to make it "all about him". Perhaps I failed to listen to the rest of what Peggy had to say after I read this.

31 posted on 06/13/2004 10:03:10 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: AQGeiger

"Haircut guy" wrote a book, she says.

I'll bet she left enough clues for freepers to ferret it out. I'm always bad at "blind items" like that, though.

A clue on "The Hack" was she says he hadn't written a book but has appeared on tv boasting of his relationship to Ronald Reagan and displaying a picture to prove it.

Hmmmmmmmmmm


32 posted on 06/13/2004 10:06:24 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Pokey78

THANKS!

GREAT DOC.

Tricky to copy and save but did via MS WORD.


33 posted on 06/13/2004 10:06:28 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: paulat

I disagree, and say good for her. She didn't identify them, but gave them a good castigation for their actions. If they are who I think they are(and I am pretty certain about who 'Haircut Boy' is), then she is going after them because they are actively working to undermine the Bush administration and the President's reelection chances. Turncoats like that should have the light shown on their actions. Her article is about the power-hungries, who will undermine a team effort to advance their agenda, themselves, or even just pettiness. They can do real damage, and are endangering our country and our future with their actions.

Good for her.


34 posted on 06/13/2004 10:06:59 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: RichInOC
No idea who either of those clowns actually was, and beyond the level of idle curiosity, I don't really care.

Well, I'm dying to know and I am more than a bit annoyed they were allowed to hang around lo those many years ago.

35 posted on 06/13/2004 10:07:50 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Vision Thing
Wow. The part about the Hack is awfully jarring in relation to the rest of the article. What the hell's going on here?

She really paints a picture of a malevolent presence in the personage of "The Hack", IMO. He must be a real piece of work for Noonan to put this in writing as she did.

36 posted on 06/13/2004 10:10:21 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Reagan Man
In his time as POTUS, FDR fought war on two fronts . . .

50 years after FDR, Ronald Reagan fought war on two fronts also . . .

Add a third front to Reagan's war: The expansion of the federal government, which was started by none other than FDR himself.

I think Reagan was sucessful on this front as well, with all the deregulation he initiated.

37 posted on 06/13/2004 10:10:27 PM PDT by Vision Thing (If you do not study Reagan, you'll never understand America.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Sorry, Diddle....

"He put his hand on my waist. This was a mistake."

That does NOT belong in a rememberance of Reagan's funeral. It's all about her, and how attractive she thinks she is.

I was disgusted.


38 posted on 06/13/2004 10:11:52 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Are you willing to say who you think they are?

I am very curious.


39 posted on 06/13/2004 10:13:28 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Yeah. According to Peggy's description, the Hack inappropriately invaded her space. I am a big fan of Peggy's, almost to the point of overprotection. I was angered by this.


40 posted on 06/13/2004 10:13:33 PM PDT by Vision Thing (If you do not study Reagan, you'll never understand America.)
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