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More blacks run as Republicans in South
AP | 6/14/04 | DICK PETTYS

Posted on 06/14/2004 11:04:36 AM PDT by kattracks

ATLANTA (AP) -- Herman Cain is a well-to-do black businessman with a strong belief that the Democratic Party that blacks embraced during the civil rights struggle has swung too far to the left.

That is why he is running for the U.S. Senate this year as a Republican.

More black Republicans are running for office in Georgia this year than ever before, and black candidates in other Southern states are also finding that declaring for the GOP is more accepted than it was just a few years ago.

It is a small shift that Republican activists say could pay big dividends if it continues.

"It doesn't mean the majority of blacks will be voting Republican anytime soon," said Atlanta GOP pollster Whit Ayres. "But if you can move the percentage of blacks who vote Republican from 5 percent to 15 percent, you will change the outcome of a lot of close Southern elections."

That may be why the Republican National Committee has an office dedicated to courting black voters and candidates, and has several blacks running in high-profile races.

In North Carolina, Winston-Salem City Councilman Vernon Robinson is running for Congress with campaign mailings likening himself to the state's arch-conservative icon: "Jesse Helms is back! And this time he's black."

In Georgia, a record 14 black Republican candidates are seeking legislative seats. Among them is Willie Talton, who is running unopposed for the House and plans to take office in January as the first black Republican lawmaker in the Georgia Legislature since Reconstruction.

Georgia's slate also includes Dylan Glenn, a young black political operative with ties to President Bush. Glenn is running for Congress.

Alabama gained its first black Republican state lawmaker since Reconstruction when Rep. Johnny Ford changed parties last year.

Two black Republicans are on the ballot in Tennessee this year. And in Florida, Rep. Jennifer Carroll of Jacksonville became that state's first female black Republican legislator when she was elected in 2003.

What is driving some blacks to abandon the party most closely associated with civil rights to join the more conservative party?

One reason given is the improving economics of black households.

In Georgia, for example, black household income still trailed that of whites in the 2000 census. But the median income in black households rose faster than that of white households over the past three decades — 655 percent to 469 percent.

"It's not just people who've already moved into the middle class, but people who are trying to move up economically who are deciding that they are better aligned with many of the Republican candidates," said Senate candidate Cain.

Another factor is that to many younger voters, the civil rights struggle is just something they have read in history books, said William Boone, a political science professor at historically black Clark Atlanta University.

"Look at the age category of these folks. Many of them are folk who are several generations removed from the civil rights movement and have a different view of what the world is all about," he said.

For some blacks, there is a sense that Democrats have taken them for granted for years.

LaRon Bennett Sr., a black businessman from Glynn County who is running as a Republican for county commission, said Democrats "used fear and intimidation to keep blacks in the party, painting the picture that, in essence, they were the only alternative. You don't have any place to go."

In the Republican Party, "there's a great willingness and eagerness to have good, solid, sound minority candidates," Bennett said.

The party's civil rights record might not be flawless, he added, "but today I think the party has changed significantly, and is changing."

For others, there is a belief the Democratic Party does not speak for blacks on some issues.

Cain, who opposes abortion, said he believes a majority of black voters take a similar view on that and other issues of family values.

Boone, the political science professor, is not ready to go that far, but said the experts are mistaken when they categorize all blacks as liberal.

"The black folk we've chatted with indicate they are against abortion. They are prepared to talk about choice, but whether they would condone abortion, the answer is no," Boone said.

Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate? And will black voters support a Republican? Georgia's July 20 primaries and the Nov. 2 general election will help provide answers.

Emory University political science professor Merle Black said he believes most blacks will continue to support Democrats.

"This activity is concentrated among a relatively small number of conservative blacks," he said. "The vast majority of African-American voters are Democrat. I haven't seen much evidence of substantial growth of black Republicanism in the state."

Bobby Kahn, Georgia's Democratic Party chairman, agreed.

Every election cycle, the Republicans "try to prove they're an inclusive party, notwithstanding the domination by white guys. But then their policies and tactics seem to contradict any effort at inclusion," he said. "This is symbolic and nothing more."



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1 posted on 06/14/2004 11:04:36 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

bttt


2 posted on 06/14/2004 11:08:11 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: kattracks
What is driving some blacks to abandon the party most closely associated with civil rights to join the more conservative party?

What a lie.

KKK is the militant wing of the DNC. Republicans promoted civil rights legislation...

3 posted on 06/14/2004 11:09:39 AM PDT by smith288 (Ronald went to touch the face of God. Goodbye, Mr President.)
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To: kattracks
Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate?

If they are of good moral character, conservative, and can support his/her positions...why not!


4 posted on 06/14/2004 11:12:41 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: mhking

Another ping for your consideration...


5 posted on 06/14/2004 11:12:43 AM PDT by Tamzee (Noonan on Reagan, "...his leadership changed the world... As president, he was a giant.")
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To: kattracks

In TEXAS, we have two state wide elected officials who are black and GOP. Our Railroad Commissioner and a Supreme Court Justice are both good GOP. I belong to a GOP club in my town and we have quite a few active Latinos and blacks in our group.


6 posted on 06/14/2004 11:13:21 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: kattracks
Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate?

Guess this reporter forgot all about JC Watts.

7 posted on 06/14/2004 11:20:28 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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The reporter left out another candidate in Virginia running against Bobby Scott, former Marine and member of the Virginia General Assembly Winsome Sears.

8 posted on 06/14/2004 11:21:19 AM PDT by Ligeia
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To: darkwing104

Ditto. I would vote for Herman Cain in a heartbeat.


9 posted on 06/14/2004 11:23:05 AM PDT by NCjim
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Bump. This is good news.


10 posted on 06/14/2004 11:27:43 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: kattracks

"Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate?"

If he/she shares my political views better then the alternative, certainly!


11 posted on 06/14/2004 11:29:31 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Bury them with a pig's hoof in their mouth......)
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To: Van Jenerette

...for class.


12 posted on 06/14/2004 11:29:37 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic - If we can keep it!)
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To: kattracks

IMO, this is a vital trend if the Republicans are to keep any principles at all. We need the moral blacks, hispanics and whoever else to join our side against the radical left. They belong with us!!!!


13 posted on 06/14/2004 11:29:40 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: kattracks

I think this article misses the biggest reason is happening and will only increase, though it sort of hints at it with the abortion issue:

Outside of civil rights issues that directly affect blacks and wealth redistribution, the average black person is extremely conservative.

They are, as the article suggests, not particularly excited about abortion, and the majority of them (60% in all the polls I've seen) favor school vouchers/choice. They're not exactly big fans of "alternative lifestyles" and often resent homosexuals portraying themselves as fellow "minorities" in the great civil rights struggle. They prefer that you cut to the chase and "make it plain" as they often say at my church -- and so are less easily mesmerized by psychobabble and more suspicious of "intellectuals".

In other words, they are at heart natural conservatives, and it's just a matter of clearing up the economic issues and the tendency to believe in conspiracies. I really believe we may be nearing a tipping point where blacks will start abandoning the Democrat Party in large numbers. 15%? Forget it! I predict that in 30 years, the majority of blacks will be voting Republican.


14 posted on 06/14/2004 11:31:01 AM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: kattracks

This Man Was NOT a Democrat....

15 posted on 06/14/2004 11:32:22 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: kattracks
"Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate?"

Been there, done that. Gonna do it again, no doubt.

Remember all those folks who claimed we needed a "big tent" that included the homosexuals and pro-abortion types? What we are now seeing are the benefits of holding the line against that! As the homosexual agenda continues to anger morally conservative blacks by attempting to tie their campaign for special rights to the fight for civil rights, the Republican Party stands to make huge gains.

16 posted on 06/14/2004 11:34:52 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: darkwing104

"Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate?
If they are of good moral character, conservative, and can support his/her positions...why not!"

I can't speak for all communities, but when a black candidate gets on the Republicans ticket he or she is called an "Uncle Tom" or "a token". That's the true character of the all inclusive Dems coming into the fore.


17 posted on 06/14/2004 11:35:28 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: kattracks

How long before the "superconservatives" here at FR start denouncing the GOP reaching out to black voters as "pandering"???


18 posted on 06/14/2004 11:35:33 AM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
And Edward Brooke, Gary Franks, Michael Steele, Ken Blackwell, etc., etc.
19 posted on 06/14/2004 11:36:14 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I'm gonna' hang out with my wang out!")
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To: kattracks
Cain rules!

It is only a matter of time before blacks around the country get a lesson in racism from the socialists. They've tolerated them so long as they voted for the Democrats.

20 posted on 06/14/2004 11:37:01 AM PDT by Naspino (HTTP://NASPINO.COM)
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To: Kenton
This Man Was NOT a Democrat...

I've no doubt that BrokawRatherJennings would describe him as a Democrat "in spirit!"

The fact is that the Demonrats have been sucessful in portraying themselves as the party historically in favor of civil rights in spite of the fact that this is purely a fiction. Good press can make anything true.

21 posted on 06/14/2004 11:37:11 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: lone star annie; kattracks

Yes, but the real question is: "What does Merle Black's twin brother think?"


22 posted on 06/14/2004 11:41:16 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("I'm gonna' hang out with my wang out!")
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To: El Conservador

There are not hardly any on FR who will consider this pandering. All that matters is what one stands for. All those who stand with us need be applauded. All those on the left...may they be made irrelevant. They could also move to Canada or France for all I care. (If we concentrated only on race, then I would be caught hating my own, as the majority of idiot liberals are white.). :)


23 posted on 06/14/2004 11:43:23 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: kattracks
At some point, the poverty-pimps like Jessie Jackson will run out of viable excuses to blame everything on "whitie".

The democRATs are going hard left, embracing things like abortion, homosexuality, rabid multiculturism, and anti-religion. These are things that turn off everyone, except for a cultish few who are still hung up in adolescence.

I'm glad to see the left drifting that way, as they are pushing more and more of their flock to the right. The actions of the DNC, ACLU, etc., are no longer veiled behind the cloak they once were, some of it borders on idocy, and everyone is seeing it now.

That's one reason why America is so great...even when oppression tries to creep in, America slowly but surely rights itself [no pun intended].

Black families don't want to worry about pedifiles, gay parades and sub-standard education any more than anyone else.

If the black base deserts the DNC, the DNC might as well take down their shingle and go home...and given enough time, and the radical left wing...it will surely happen.

The democRATic party is fastly becoming known as the "weirdo" party, boasting every fringe element on the planet in a race to out-gag one another.
24 posted on 06/14/2004 11:45:41 AM PDT by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of charity that you receive.)
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To: ohioman

There's many a freeper that everytime any article about conservative minorities is posted, will spew absolutely ridiculous charges of "racial pandering". As a minority conservative myself, I've argumented that these people are to blame for the Democrat gridlock on black and Hispanic votes.

Maybe you haven't seen them, but they abound in these here places.


25 posted on 06/14/2004 11:49:14 AM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Tamsey; darkwing104; El Conservador; ohioman; MississippiMan
One of my favorite pols has to be Charles Evers!

That guy should be in the U.S. Senate, instead of that political drone Trent Lott.

He's carrying on his brother's legacy every day he steps foot out the door and confronts evil.

26 posted on 06/14/2004 11:53:26 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Life begins at masturbation-uh-insemination. No, insemination! That's it! Wheew! That was close. ")
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To: kattracks

I welcome one and all to the Grand Old Party.

Why?

Because, "A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste"


27 posted on 06/14/2004 11:56:20 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Sgt. Rummy says... "Hope Allah's wearing Kevlar")
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To: kattracks
Will white Republicans vote for a black candidate?

I have. I've voted for Alan Keyes in the past as well as Justice Robert Young(twice).

I could care less what the pigmentation of the individual is when I make my voting decision.

28 posted on 06/14/2004 11:57:48 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: El Conservador

I've seen them. Screw'em.


29 posted on 06/14/2004 11:57:52 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: darkwing104; All

I agree.

Minnesota has had a few black Republicans run for office over the last 20 years and although none have won, I voted for them.

As for voting for a black Republican over a white Republican in a GOP primary, I'd say Yes...

...but only if the black Republican is as qualified and electable as the white Republican is.


30 posted on 06/14/2004 12:00:23 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: El Conservador

Well if you find any specifics, please let me know, because I can't recall any (Of course I don't read every thread.)


31 posted on 06/14/2004 12:07:29 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: El Conservador
I'm a frequent critic of pandering. Pandering is parading around someone like Don King every four years election time to try and get minority votes and screaming "we really are tolerant". Pandering is moving leftist or kissing a Coleman Young type's foot. Pandering is John Kerry posing with a $10,000 shotgun and saying he's a hunter.

A Herman Cain or a Vernon Robinson candidate has nothing to do with pandering. Their candidacies are not about their race. They are conservatives first with solid platforms and visable campaigns. Their race is one minor issue of many - like taxes, business, life, 2nd amendment, foreign policy, etc.

32 posted on 06/14/2004 12:07:44 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Okay, I can understand your point about Don King.

Those gold pinkie rings shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a lectern.

But Zab Judah of the Judah Brothers?(!)

That dude is not only a 'Golden Gloves' winner, he is that rare combination: A black Jewish man who can kick Oscar De La Hoya's ass!

How often do they come along?

33 posted on 06/14/2004 12:11:30 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Life begins at masturbation-uh-insemination. No, insemination! That's it! Wheew! That was close. ")
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To: darkwing104

"If they are of good moral character, conservative, and can support his/her positions...why not!"

Ditto!!!!


34 posted on 06/14/2004 12:12:31 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: All

Don't matter if the majority of blacks vote Dem. We only need to peel off a few percent of that majority to crush the Dems. Condi Rice should be good for a few %. Other black candidates, too.


35 posted on 06/14/2004 12:13:47 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Dan from Michigan

bttt


36 posted on 06/14/2004 12:15:30 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: kattracks

In the 5th District in Michigan, which covers the cities of Flint and Bay City, and a portion of the City of Saginaw, Myrah Lynn Kirkwood, a black woman, is running for Congress against Dale Kildee, the whitest most ancient Democrat you will find this side of Carl Levin.

I heard Myrah talk at a recent Saginaw County Lincoln Day breakfast. She's wonderful. All of us are pulling for her to finally put Kildee out to pasture, but it won't be easy.


37 posted on 06/14/2004 12:18:33 PM PDT by BaBaStooey
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To: Ligeia

And she does look "winsome" to me....and I'm white!


38 posted on 06/14/2004 12:20:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: All



Myrah Kirkwood for Congress
39 posted on 06/14/2004 12:24:07 PM PDT by BaBaStooey
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To: kattracks
re: In North Carolina, Winston-Salem City Councilman Vernon Robinson is running for Congress with campaign mailings likening himself to the state's arch-conservative icon: "Jesse Helms is back! And this time he's black.")))

Nooo! LOL! Really? Is this on the level?

40 posted on 06/14/2004 12:39:53 PM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong
If he can kick Oscar's ass, he's alright as far as I'm concerned. :)

On a serious note, if they want to crack the 92-95% D numbers in Detroit and 80-85% numbers in Flint and Southfield, they need to have people with strong credibility.

That means locals. This is really the key no matter what race or ethnicity or what location. In my state rep primary, the aggies voted for their own, Fowlerville voted for their homer - at the tune of about 70%+. Yoopers vote for their own overwhelmingly.

The key is to convince enough influential people(preachers and neighboorhood elders especially) that "Candidate X" is a good guy. It starts there to build foundations at the local level, and to create cracks in a dem base where eventually a Ronald Reagan candidate can shatter. Today the Catholic vote is not exclusively dem and is about 48/52.

It can be done, but it takes a lot of work and more than BS measures which can backfire.

41 posted on 06/14/2004 12:40:39 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: BaBaStooey

Good luck to Myrah--being gorgeous can't hurt!


42 posted on 06/14/2004 12:41:29 PM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: mdmathis6; cyborg
Confound it!

Someone has yet again preemptively posted a witty pun for which I cannot claim authorship!

I shall be avenged!

Rest assured, the day where my pithy comments rule the day shall come!

43 posted on 06/14/2004 12:44:33 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Life begins at masturbation-uh-insemination. No, insemination! That's it! Wheew! That was close. ")
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To: BaBaStooey
Kildee is terrible. Does he even live in Flint anymore like he brays about, or is he like Manhattan's Michael Moore(Davison, not Flint)?

I've heard good things about Myrah from couple people I know in the district.

44 posted on 06/14/2004 12:48:09 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

lol


45 posted on 06/14/2004 12:48:42 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Mamzelle
I heard at CPAC that it was a local paper using that as a derogatory comment about Robinson.

Robinson took the remark as a compliment.

46 posted on 06/14/2004 12:49:20 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: kattracks

You will never get older Blacks in this country to vote for anyone but the Democrat Party. They are so used to bowing to the masters of the Democrat Party that have kept them in economic bondage all these years. For goodness sakes, if it wasn't for the Republicans that voted for the Civil Rights Act, Blacks in the south would still be living under Jim Crow laws.
Younger Black are smarter, better educated, have good sense and see a world around them passing them by, not because of their color, but because, as a race, Blacks have not assimilated into general American society the same as other minority groups including latecomers, like Hispanics and Asians. Why? It was to the great political advantage of the Democrat Party to keep Blacks in their place, at the very bottom of the economic totem pole.
And....Blacks minus an enlightened leadership, followed the rantings of the Jesse Jackson's, etc. that told them "The Man, Whitey" was holding them back because they were Black! Fortunately a sea change is now under way, the outcome being that any Black, or for that matter anyone, can be all they want to be through hard work, study, strong determination and a desire to succeeed in a free society. There never was, nor will there ever be, any proof that Blacks are inferior to other races. That is just plain BS!!!
Unfortunately the Democrat Party has made a history of keeping blacks penned in by preaching racism and hate! Too bad, Black folk never really got it. However, the young Black turks are on the march, and that is good news for all blacks and more importantly, the USA! And...the Republican Party where they rightfully belong for both economic and cultural reasons! Wake up black folk and get with the program!


47 posted on 06/14/2004 12:55:51 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Dan from Michigan
Yeah, pretty-boy really needed that attitude adjustment, courtesy of Bernard Hopkins.

There was a democratic insider who was blown off by the establishment in a pivotal New York City Council race last year, who wound up running as a Republican.

Unfortunately, the seat-which had been filled by former NYPD officer James Davis-was carried by Letitia James, who pretty much wiped out whatever Democrat, Republican or Conservative Party opposition she had that election.

This guy-Tony Herbert-is a bit of gadfly and making another run this year; this time, for the state senate.

I seriously doubt that he'll emerge victorious, though stranger things have happened. Not many I'll grant you, but they have been known to occur from time to time.

48 posted on 06/14/2004 12:56:29 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Life begins at masturbation-uh-insemination. No, insemination! That's it! Wheew! That was close. ")
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To: AngieGOP

I think most of the successful black Republican candidates run in districts that are solidly Republican and without a significant black population.


49 posted on 06/14/2004 1:01:07 PM PDT by AmishDude (Don't think about this tagline.)
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To: kattracks
Dr. Jesse Cannon is one of the canidates running in Tennessee. He seeks to unseat boss hogg jimmy nafieh (income tax pusher deluxe) Speaker of the House. Dr. Jesse Cannon
50 posted on 06/14/2004 1:02:08 PM PDT by GailA (hanoi john kerry, I'm for the death penalty, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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