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Gay Gamete Project: gays should lie to sperm banks, flood them to preserve "gay genes" (BARF ALERT!)
Gay Gamete Project ^ | Unknown | Gay Gamete Project

Posted on 06/14/2004 3:40:05 PM PDT by rogueleader

The Gay Gamete Project was developed as a means to ensure the genetic survival of homosexuality;to assure that the decline in homosexual procreation does not result in our eventual extinction.

Homophobic Guidelines:

The FDA has been in the process of promulgating national regulations that would prohibit clinics from accepting sperm from homosexual applicants since 1999. The decision will likely be finalized before 2003. Due to these homophobic guidelines as well as those proposed by the ASRM, it is unfortunately necessary for gay men to lie about their sexual preference and sexual history in the application and interview process. Gay men are automatically excluded from sperm donor programs using hypothetical risk of HIV transmission as justification. It is clear that homophobic fears play no small part in the creation of these policies. Fear that homosexuality will be passed on to the donor’s offspring is the more likely reason for creation of these exclusionary, reactionary, and unjustified guidelines which routinely exclude homosexual men from sperm donor programs.

Sperm Donation Overview

About 33% of couples have an infertility problem that is due to the male partner. Although there have been many advances over the last few years in the treatment of male factor infertility, there are a number of couples for which these treatments are either inappropriate, or unsuccessful. The alternative is to consider the use of donor sperm. Sperm donation is most successful in cases where the couple's infertility problem has been identified as the Intended Father's low sperm count and/or poor motility. It is also one of the most affordable and least invasive methods of infertility treatment. Artificial insemination is also useful for diabetics suffering from retrograde ejaculation (where the sperm is released incorrectly into the bladder), and men suffering from impotence or semen deficiencies. Donor sperm is injected directly into the Recipient women’s cervix. The donor sperm is often selected and ordered through a Sperm Bank.

Sperm banks are the laboratories where sperm donors provide semen specimens, and where Andrology professionals perform the medical procedures for freezing and storing the semen until needed for artificial insemination. Sperm banks are also known as human semen Cryobanks. About 150 commercial sperm banks exist in the United States; these banks are often clustered around universities where many young men live who are considered to be intelligent and virile. The qualities assumed present in college students are in high demand among infertile couples trying to have a baby. As a result, as many as 90 percent of all sperm donors are college students. Rates for sperm donation vary from $40 to $100 for each semen sample. A donator can sire a maximum of 10 children and potentially make up to $6,000 in a year. As a gay sperm donor you can simultaneously help to promote the gay agenda by insuring the continuing survival of the Gay gene(s), and have an addition to your existing income.

After you have passed the initial screening procedures, the donation process is simple. You walk into a private room, which is usually stocked with pornography, and masturbate into a sterile container (it may be necessary to covertly bring your own pornography, as their collection will only include standard heterosexual porn.) The semen sample is collected from the container and is mixed with a cryopreservative solution, divided in aliquots, sealed in vials and frozen with liquid nitrogen. The frozen semen is stored at -321 degrees F. After a minimum six-month storage period to insure against the presence of disease, the semen sample may be thawed when needed and used in artificial insemination.

Most sperm banks operate on an anonymous donor basis; an extended profile of all of their donors' personalities and interests are used to match donors with recipient couples. The following Information on each donor is usually available to the recipients: Blood type, Eye color, Height, Hair color, Weight, Ethnic origin, Religion, Complexion, Hair type, Build, Education, Occupation, Interests, Talents, IQ, personality characteristics. Essays and photography are often available as well. After narrowing down the selection to two or three, the client will be offered an extended donor profile, further detailing the donor's background. At this point, the client will make a final choice. Most couples attempt to match the socially desirable features and characteristics of the husband/partner.

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Donor Screening

The following are immediately disqualified from donating sperm: Homosexual men, men who have had sex with other men in the past five years, men who have visited areas where considerable numbers of AIDS cases have been reported and have had sex with either women or men living there, men who have a history of certain diseases in the family (i.e. cystic fibrosis, sickle cell anemia, etc.), and Intravenous drug users.

As an Applicant, you will go through a rigorous screening process before you are cleared to become an anonymous sperm donor. Donor screening consists of questionnaires, blood screening, specimen screening, genetic analysis and a physical examination. Donors must undergo a medical examination, medical history, and testing to screen out any health problems. Good backgrounds, good genetic history (up to three generations), and excellent health are all requirements. The semen is analyzed for sperm cell count, forward sperm cell motility, and normal sperm morphology. Candidates also undergo vigorous, lengthy interviews involving personal questions concerning sexual behavior, family background and reasons for participating in semen donor programs. Donors are anonymous, and no acknowledgement is made of any ensuing pregnancies. As a donor, you will have absolutely no legal responsibility to any children conceived using your sperm.

The screening process takes from 8 weeks to 6 months depending on the sperm bank that you are applying to. You will need to collect 3 to 5 samples with an interval of 48-72 hours between specimens. These samples are used for quality assurance testing only, and allow the sperm bank to screen potential candidates. Generally no payment is issued for evaluation samples. All semen samples are collected on the premises of the sperm bank that you have chosen. Generally, you must have abstained from any sexual activity or masturbation for 48-72 hours. The quality of each sample is checked for the sperm concentration (number of sperm cells) and motility (percent of sperm cells moving). This procedure is performed on the fresh ejaculate, and again within 2-3 days on a thawed portion of the frozen specimen for quality assurance. If you are one of the lucky 5 percent of applicants who are accepted to donate, you will be paid from $40 to $100 for each semen sample. A donator can sire a maximum of 10 children and potentially make up to $6,000 in a year.

Tests Performed for Infection Screening Are:

Semen analysis

ABO-Rh Blood Typing

Cystic Fibrosis

Neisseria gonorrhea culture

Hepatitis B Surface Antigen

Hepatitis B Core Antibody

Hepatitis C Viral Antibody

HTLV-I Antibody

HIV 1, HIV-2(AIDS) Antibody

Cytomegalovirus

CMV Culture (if antibody positive)

Syphilis

Alanine Aminotransferase

Chlamydia

Sickle-cell anemia for African American donors

Thalassemia for donors of Mediterranean descent

Cystic fibrosis if indicated in donor's family history

ALT

ABO/Rh

Homophobic Guidelines:

Due to homophobic guidelines promulgated by the ASRM and FDA, it is unfortunately necessary for gay men to lie about their sexual preference and sexual history in the application and interview process. Gay men are automatically excluded from sperm donor programs using hypothetical risk of HIV transmission as justification. It is clear that homophobic fears play no small part in the creation of these policies. Fear that homosexuality will be passed on to the donor’s offspring is the more likely reason for the promulgation of these exclusionary, reactionary, and unjustified guidelines which routinely exclude homosexual men from sperm donor programs.

In addition to a thorough infection screen, donor candidates must have two tests for HIV, performed 6 months apart. All of the donor sperm that is used comes from frozen samples, stored for a period of 6 months quarantine, to allow adequate time for the full infection screen. These tests are designed to rule out the possibility of disease transmission. Only if the donor is negative for HIV antibodies on both tests will the sperm be released for use. In addition to this seemingly adequate HIV screening procedure, men considered to be members of high-risk groups for HIV are disqualified. Men who have had sex with other men, Intravenous drug users, men who have visited areas where considerable numbers of AIDS cases have been reported and have had sex with either women or men living there, Hemophiliacs who may have received infected Factor VIII before it was made safe by heat treatment, or the sexual partners of any of these people are automatically rejected as potential donors.

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Insemination Treatment

Artificial insemination is a procedure in which sperm are introduced into the recipient woman's uterus or cervix artificially instead of by natural means. Using donor sperm with artificial insemination is sometimes called donor insemination (DI) or therapeutic donor insemination (TDI). The treatment itself is very simple. Most women have fairly regular menstrual cycles, varying between 25-35 days. Ovulation usually occurs about 14 days prior to the next menstrual period. If the woman’s cycles are irregular, fertility drugs may be given to cause ovulation. The donor sperm needs to be placed inside the neck of the uterus (the cervix) at around the time the egg is released. The time that the egg is released is determined by using a urine testing kit. When the urine testing kit suggests that the recipient is close to ovulation, ultrasound scans are arranged to confirm the precise timing of the insemination. A speculum is inserted into the vagina to expose the cervix. A small sample of frozen sperm is thawed and placed into the cervix using a small plastic instrument. This procedure must be performed by a physician or midwife. Intracervical insemination is the introduction an unwashed sperm sample into the cervix utilizing an inseminator. This procedure can be performed at home, or in a clinic sperm bank, or cryobank.

The live birth rate for IVF is generally around 8% per cycle, although results vary from clinic to clinic. At the end of 12 months of treatment 50-60% of women are expected to have conceived. Approximately 30,000 + infants are born each year as a result of donor insemination technology.

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Legal Questions

Because homophobia on the part of the recipients and clinics prevents you from disclosing your sexual preference, you may be concerned about the possibility of legal repercussions. Actually, although sperm banks are prohibited frm accepting Homosexual donor applicants, it is not technically illegal for you to fail to disclose that you are Gay. It is unlikely that either the clinic or the recipient would be able to successfully sue you should your sexual preference become known. To date no one has been sued for non-disclosure of sexual preference for either egg or sperm donation. The fact that sperm banks have had no such lawsuits filed in 50 years of sperm donation in this country is reassuring. And yet it remains true that anyone can sue just about anyone else for anything. We nevertheless believe the risk of a future legal complication from sperm donation is very small.

Although legal statutes vary state by state, generally donors sign away all rights and responsibility to any child born resulting from there donated sperm. Legislation has primarily been used to protect the rights of the recipient, but it also mean that your legal responsibility is negligible. The clinics themselves bear most of the legal responsibility for donor screening. It is important to remember that genetic causation of homosexuality has not yet been scientifically verified. There is no test for homosexuality. We none the less suggest that you are evasive or equivocal rather than untruthful about your sexual preference if possible. In terms of disclosure of sexual history, it is often necessary to lie about the gender of your previous partners. If the application or interview questions do force you to lie about your sexuality, it is highly unlikely that these clinics will be able to somehow discover that you are Gay. If they did manage to find out, they would simply reject your application. The actual investigation of donor applicants is minimal.


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Sorry, but it does say "barf alert."

Obviously, there is no actual scientific data that backs up the claim that homosexuality is genetic. Most likely it is not.

What I find disgusting is the level of arrogance that gay people have, to think that their genetic heritage should take precedence over that of other people's.

I know the article repeats itself. That's the way it is on the Gay Gamete Project web site.

The Gay Gamete Project says lying to sperm banks is not illegal. I don't know if it is or isn't, but I hope that it is illegal, and that whoever follows their advice goes to jail.

I don't know who is behind this, but the web site says, "GG Enterprises Inc."

http://www.gaygamete.com/egg_why.html

They also have information on egg donation. I will post some more of their site.

1 posted on 06/14/2004 3:40:07 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader
You walk into a private room, which is usually stocked with pornography, and masturbate into a sterile container (it may be necessary to covertly bring your own pornography, as their collection will only include standard heterosexual porn.)

ROTFLMAO!!!!

2 posted on 06/14/2004 3:44:41 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: rogueleader

Odds are their sperm will be rejected anyway. With their lifestyle, they will likely have a few of the listed diseases. They are their own worst enemy. Self destructive behavior will lead to their demise.


3 posted on 06/14/2004 3:48:57 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Kerry is a threat to national security)
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To: rogueleader
More of the same, except worse.

http://www.gaygamete.com/egg_why.html

Gay Gamete is sponsored by GG Enterprises; an organization dedicated to the preservation of Gay culture, and the advancement of the Gay agenda. GG recognizes the intrinsic value of homosexuals as leaders in every strata of society. Gay individuals continue to refine and renew society.

Studies suggest that the Gay gene is linked to increased levels of intelligence, creativity, sensitivity, and leadership characteristics, as well as to decreases in criminal and violent behavior. It is our right and responsibility as members of Queer culture to ensure the survival of our race. Humanity can ill afford to loose [sic] the Gay gene.

More of us are currently able to live an Out Gay life now than at any other point in history. We no longer have to live within the oppressive hegemonic confines of heterosexual relationships. This also means that we are not forced to spend our lives and resources on the bearing, raising and supporting of children. The decision not to reproduce has given many Gay individuals the advantage of increased time and monetary resources. This strategy has in part helped to advance the Gay socio-economic position by increasing our consumer and political power. We should not sacrifice this advantage unnecessarily.

This freedom may be our downfall if it means that we are dooming ourselves to eventual extinction. We are having far fewer children than heterosexual couples, and as a result our Gay DNA is not being passed on at a competitive rate. Our community needs a long-term solution to ensure our future survival. We must develop and implement new methods of procreation outside of the normative heterosexual model. Recruitment is not enough.

We have devised a solution to end our reproductive crisis. We must sell our gametes to egg and sperm banks. These clinics are the location where our reproductive objectives can be achieved. In recent years sperm donation has been the primary method we have used to bear children. Lesbians have achieved pregnancy through the use of artificial Insemination with Gay sperm, increasing the likelihood that a Gay child will result. These admirable women have helped to insure a gay future. Unfortunately, this tactic has not produced sufficient numbers of offspring. GG proposes a more effective, targeted solution: We must use donor programs to implant our Gay eggs and sperm into heterosexual female bodies.

4 posted on 06/14/2004 3:50:04 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader

Am I missing something? If there were a "gay gene", then homesexuality wouldn't exist in the first place...


5 posted on 06/14/2004 3:50:14 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Pres. Reagan was greeted at the Pearly Gates by his old college buddy, Moses.:-))
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To: rogueleader

6 posted on 06/14/2004 3:50:23 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: rogueleader

If there is a gay gene, imagine the evil of these people, trying to get women to bear homosexual children against their will.


7 posted on 06/14/2004 3:51:12 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: rogueleader

This is so incredibly disgusting, I am wondering whether it is a parody site.

"Recruitment is not enough." They actually say that, and without a hint of irony.

Recruitment is not enough.

If they are serious, this is stuff that we ought to publicize. We've got to get the word out.


8 posted on 06/14/2004 3:52:30 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader

But isn't this the point? If their 'genes' were important enough to the species that they should be passed on, wouldn't they have a little more proclivity toward behavior that might further those traits. Instead, they are inclined (or have chosen) behavior which guarantees that they are a genetic dead end. (No pun intended). Evolutionarily one might have to conclude that the species has determined those traits to be less preferrable and therefore those who have them are less likely to procreate.

Aaarrgh!


9 posted on 06/14/2004 3:53:36 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: rogueleader

Wait, I think I saw this on Star Trek. "Resistance is futile".


10 posted on 06/14/2004 3:53:37 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (This November, make the losses close and the wins blowouts.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Am I missing something? If there were a "gay gene", then homesexuality wouldn't exist in the first place...

Only if it were a DOMINANT gene. Heh.

11 posted on 06/14/2004 3:57:10 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Am I missing something? If there were a "gay gene", then homesexuality wouldn't exist in the first place...

It's part of gay mythology. They believe that gays were "in the closet" for thousands of years, and so gay genes were passed down. Now that gays are "out of the closet" they are not having sex with the opposite gender, and so they believe, not reproducing.

The existence of "gay genes" is critical to gay mythology. If they weren't genetically gay, homosexuality would just be another behavior or choice. They can't emotionally accept that as true.

12 posted on 06/14/2004 3:57:32 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

My suggestion.

Never put the words "flood" and "sperm bank" in the same sentence.


13 posted on 06/14/2004 3:57:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: lady lawyer

Great point. It would be incredibly evil, indeed.


14 posted on 06/14/2004 3:58:28 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader

These people are psychos.


15 posted on 06/14/2004 3:59:23 PM PDT by diamond6
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To: rogueleader

More evidence that these people are mentally ill. Not just "troubled", not just "issues", they are seriously ill. Malicious narcissism is what Tammy Bruce calls it.


16 posted on 06/14/2004 4:00:03 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (If we had some eggs, we could have bacon and eggs if we had some bacon. --unknown Freeper)
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To: rogueleader

Apparently it is against federal law for sperm banks to accept sperm from gay men. At least according to the article below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140570/posts


17 posted on 06/14/2004 4:07:08 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: lady lawyer

I suppose payback will be when they find the gene and have the ability to test for it's existence invitro. Think we'll get any abortion converts then?


18 posted on 06/14/2004 4:07:59 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: rogueleader
It is our right and responsibility as members of Queer culture to ensure the survival of our race.

Sieg heil, baby.

19 posted on 06/14/2004 4:11:33 PM PDT by Argus
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To: rogueleader
"Studies suggest that the Gay gene is linked to increased levels of intelligence, creativity, sensitivity, and leadership characteristics, as well as to decreases in criminal and violent behavior. It is our right and responsibility as members of Queer culture to ensure the survival of our race."

In a world of idiotic statements and profoundly stupid utterances, that has to be near the top of the list. The superior "gay" gene, imparting increased intelligence, creativity, etc., on its owner, is so superior that it has no way of perpetuating itself short of deception and lies. This superior gene is found only in specimens that somehow have failed to notice that every single living thing on this planet (less asexual virii, bacterium, single-celled creatures, et al.) is the result of heterosexual design.

Pathological narcissism, indeed.

20 posted on 06/14/2004 4:14:07 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: rogueleader

Any man who has enough time on his hands that he has a mind to make a deposit to a "sperm bank" in the first place is a mutant across the board to begin with.

You'd have to have the hubris of a homosexual or a megalomaniac personality to deliberately be a blind, anonymous party to a pregnancy.


21 posted on 06/14/2004 4:15:53 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: rogueleader
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

Don't shoot the messenger... but this is bottom-line truth regarding these sadly deceived people
(Excerpted from Romans 1; correctly applied).

Regards

22 posted on 06/14/2004 4:17:30 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: spodefly

Nice point.

Homosexual supremacism, anyone?


23 posted on 06/14/2004 4:18:01 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader

Making an intentional false statement of a material fact, as a result of which you get money from the person lied to, is called fraud. You can get into legal trouble for it. The web site is advocating the commission of a crime


24 posted on 06/14/2004 4:25:45 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: rogueleader

Oh no! One of them figured out same-sex couples can't reproduce! I guess the cat's out of the bag, now.


25 posted on 06/14/2004 4:32:08 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: rogueleader

If you look at the appearance and mannerisms of most gays, I would tend to say there IS a defect that shows physically besides mentally.

Same goes for prison guards and gestapo-like cops. Ever notice they all look like overweight gorillas?

I am serious! Where weight lifters that abuse steroids have sharply chiseld features, these sadists all have rounded swollen features. I asked some copes once what drugs they took - they just glared.

Think about it.


26 posted on 06/14/2004 4:36:17 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: COEXERJ145
This entire subject is sickening...


27 posted on 06/14/2004 4:37:32 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: rogueleader

THe only gay gene I know of are Levi 501's....


28 posted on 06/14/2004 4:39:08 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: steplock
If you look at the appearance and mannerisms of most gays, I would tend to say there IS a defect that shows physically besides mentally.

Really? I've never noticed. /sarcasm


29 posted on 06/14/2004 4:41:28 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: little jeremiah

ping


30 posted on 06/14/2004 4:44:54 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: rogueleader

This is pure pre-1938 Nazi philosophy. Hitler's cohorts as well were militant homosexuals who idolized their own genetics.


31 posted on 06/14/2004 5:12:55 PM PDT by thoughtomator (No Gays = No AIDS; No Arabs = No Terror; No French = No Appeasement)
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To: Diplomat

Sick thought, my FRiend.


32 posted on 06/14/2004 6:07:40 PM PDT by grellis (What's a rooster and mashed potatos have to do with being a pirate?)
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To: vikingchick

Just when you thought you had seen it all Zing.....


33 posted on 06/14/2004 6:12:59 PM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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To: rogueleader


I hope we really do identify the gay gene, or gene(s)...

Just what do you think most normal parents will choose to do, people???

Eradicating an abomination would be no wrong.


34 posted on 06/14/2004 6:19:02 PM PDT by BabaOreally
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To: rogueleader

I guess it hasn't occurred to these Einsteins that if gay genes *are* identified by prenatal testing, prenatal selection during in-vitro fertilization will probably be used to seek "gay embryos" out and destroy them?


35 posted on 06/14/2004 7:00:55 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: rogueleader
Obviously, there is no actual scientific data that backs up the claim that homosexuality is genetic. Most likely it is not.

Exactly. Which makes this "gay project" thing really stupid.

36 posted on 06/14/2004 7:03:39 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: rogueleader
We must develop and implement new methods of procreation outside of the normative heterosexual model. Recruitment is not enough.

Hoax sensors firing pretty seriously by this point. Have you been duped?

37 posted on 06/14/2004 7:07:30 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: rogueleader
The existence of "gay genes" is critical to gay mythology. If they weren't genetically gay, homosexuality would just be another behavior or choice. They can't emotionally accept that as true.

True. They cannot take responsibility for their behavior. One of their main arguments for total acceptance in society is that they supposedly were "born gay and can never change".

Of course they get help from the politically correct attitude of irresponsibility that has become pervasive in our society which we see in some areas of the scientific community, for example psychiatry and now "behavioral genetics". Which is total nonsense.

38 posted on 06/14/2004 7:14:23 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: rogueleader
Guess what - this web site is a FAKE. It looks like the "Gay Gamete" web site was part of a class project from a California art /design school called California Institute of the Arts, in Valencia.

Check out the URL of the home page. http://www.calarts.edu/~cleary/ (The page linked to above isn't the home page.)

It looks like the artist is one Clover Leary: http://art-design.smsu.edu/acm/contextin/fall_03/gaygamete/index.htm Looks like she did the project in the fall of 2003.

Har, har - very clever. I really like these fake web sites, though; they're hysterical. (BTW - just to be sure, I did a NCES check on California Institute of the Arts, to make sure *they* were for real...)

39 posted on 06/14/2004 7:47:36 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: valkyrieanne

It may be a class project, but is it fake?

I hope it is fake.


40 posted on 06/14/2004 7:50:51 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Then Rome fell.

41 posted on 06/14/2004 8:06:21 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: valkyrieanne

Even if it is just a web site, it's still a web site. It doesn't claim to do anything else.

By it's very existence, it isn't fake. It's real.

The next thing to research would be to check and see if this GG, Inc or whatever is a real corporation (state of Missouri, probably), and who owns the domain name. I'm worn out for now.


42 posted on 06/14/2004 9:57:16 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: BossLady

Somehow, it reminds me of those deaf lesbians who mated with a deaf guy's sperm to try and make the baby boy deaf so the whole family would be deaf. I wonder if they ever achieved their evil goal?


43 posted on 06/14/2004 11:03:27 PM PDT by vikingchick
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To: vikingchick

I would say I've never heard that story before - but someone might take it in the wrong context...;-)


44 posted on 06/15/2004 7:19:36 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: valkyrieanne
from a California art /design school called California Institute of the Arts, in Valencia.

Cal Arts is notorious bastion of raving homo rump-rangers. I used to attend COC down the street from there. The stories of their goings on (bac in the late 70s) were legion -- even back then when "the boys" weren't so visible.

While it may have been some kind of class project, I don't doubt the perverse intent for one minute considering the source.

45 posted on 06/15/2004 8:37:50 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: vikingchick
Take a gander at their website....then check out the testimonials.....what the h......???!!!!!!

Sick Sad World!

46 posted on 06/15/2004 9:35:57 AM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
If there were a "gay gene", then homesexuality wouldn't exist in the first place...

Exactly. Evolution would have wiped it out eons ago. Nor is there an observed tendency to run in families. It doesn't show the e

47 posted on 06/15/2004 9:42:49 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: rogueleader

It may not be genetic but there is a biohazard risk in accepting semen from actively homosexual men.


48 posted on 06/15/2004 11:57:39 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: azhenfud; vikingchick
Yes they did. There are some threads on FR as well as loads of websites that discuss this. I think that the article on FR may have been from The Village Voice.

Also, PBS has made a documentary (or segment) on the couple.

49 posted on 06/15/2004 11:59:06 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

But wait, if gays don't preserve their genetic material, where will the interior decorators of tomorrow come from?


50 posted on 06/15/2004 12:01:34 PM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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