Reuteman: Tancredo's name mud with execs at First Data

InsideDenver.com ^ | June 5, 2004 | Rob Reuteman

[sinkspur]

The last time I checked Tacredo represents citizens, First Data Corp, was never elected and should not be coercing foreign policy concessions out of our elected officials that hurt American citizens

Tancredo sure tucked his tail between his legs the minute he found out First Data was a constituent.

What a colossal phony!

[asmith92008]

Why can't we have Tancredo running on the Republican ticket, maybe a last minute sub for Cheney who has "health problems?"

[bayourod]

"All of this money flowing out of the U.S. is a huge problem. "

Wrong. Most Republican and conservative economists agree that money going overseas returns to the US and because of the multiplier effect is on-balance favorable.

[sinkspur]

LOL!! This zealot doesn't represent me, but, if he did, I'd be blast-faxing his office every day.

What do you think of this silly proposal? Taxing every wire transfer out of the country, including those of parents whose kids might be studying or traveling overseas?

The thing is, Tancredo gets zero support from fellow Republicans on his schemes. I guess grandstanding for his fellow isolationists gets him the emotional satisfaction he craves, even if he can't pass one single bill.

[sinkspur]

Why can't we have Tancredo running on the Republican ticket, maybe a last minute sub for Cheney who has "health problems?"

Because he's a guaranteed loser, that's why.

[Consort]

...maybe a last minute sub for Cheney...

Tancredo would never make the VP list, as you know. He acts like a lesser maverick.

[dcwusmc]

Easily dealt with: Any single transaction can be tax free if done by a citizen to a family member on vacation or whatever. Multiple transactions can be taxed, subject to refund of the tax if verification of the payee's citizenship status and the temporary nature of his/her travel abroad is provided. Transactions by those unable to show a legal immigration/citizenship status get taxed at the max. See how easy?

[dalereed]

"I get it very clearly that this clown wants to impose an additional 5% tax the earnings of hard working people."

He should have proposed to take 100% and put them in prison for 5 years before deportation!

If they are caught here again, death penalty!

[neutrino]

The fact that so much money flows out of our country unregulated is bad for the United States and creates a systemic dependency on illegal immigration by these other countries, is lost on this corporation.

You're right. This is another example of the free traitors' betrayal of America.

[bayourod]

"either branch of the ruling party "

Well, we have here a third-party advocate. Which party could that be?

Certainly not the Libertarian party, they believe in open borders. Not the Constitution party, they don't support unconstitutional export taxes. Why, it must be the Reform party.

Do you believe that Buchanan will pull a miraculous upset over that Bush kid this year and win the Presidency even though he isn't on any ballots?

Or are you going to follow Buchanan's advice and vote for Nadar?

[JohnnyZ]

Multiple transactions can be taxed,......Transactions by those unable to show a legal immigration/citizenship status get taxed at the max. See how easy?

Sounds like you love taxes and bureaucracy -- has anyone ever told you you'd make a great Democrat?

[sinkspur]

Why did Tommy drop his proposal like a hot potato?

Seems even he is aware of his constituency, though he pissed them off royally.

Tancredo is a dunce.

[hedgetrimmer]

This remittance money is part of a plan to redistribute American wealth and reduce our standard of living and the quality of our infrastructure.

The money going overseas is not spent on goods purchased in the US, not spent on roads, schools, hospitals, water storage systems or electrical power generation systems. Illegal immigrants do not contribute to their host country like citizens do. Unlike citizens, they do not have allegiance to their host country either. There are big bucks however, in hometown clubs located in cities around America, that collect money from illegals to fund infrastructure projects in their home countries. Why aren't we encouraging them to do their civic duty to their host country and fund infrastructure development here? They certainly use our roads, schools, hospitals, water systems and electrical grid.

Why do you say this is a good thing?

Why must American taxpayers support every other country in the world but their own?

[hedgetrimmer]

For instance, the governments of Mexico and Honduras give people handbooks "to teach them how to cross the borders illegally to get here," he said. "They sell little backpacks with travel kits and water bottles. These governments do everything they can to get rid of their poor."

Withholding foreign aid to these countries "is what we're into right now,"

This money is foreign aid. It has been decided by corporations like First Data, that Americans should pay aid to countries that harm them. The last time I looked Congress is the only authority to grant foreign aid, so don't you think that its more than a little wrong that First Data is acting as an agent for Mexico and El Salvador in securing them foreign aid without the approval of Congress and without the consent of the American people?

[sinkspur]

Why aren't we encouraging them to do their civic duty to their host country and fund infrastructure development here?

Regularize them, and we could collect taxes from them.

Why get a piddly 5% on wire transfers when we could collect FICA, to the tune of 9%?

[hedgetrimmer]

Reward the lawbreakers and allow corporations to continue to make foreign policy for us because they love the wage deflating effect of flooding our country with illegals and the wealth distribution scheme that builds up foreign countries with US taxpayer dollars so they can set up offshore? Thats such a great idea.

[deport]

Additional info about this plan....... which is no longer the plan .....

"We weren't aware," said Tancredo spokesman Carlos Espinosa on Friday afternoon. "But that wouldn't have changed his mind."

The remittance tax proposal "is all but erased," Espinosa said. "It's moot at this point. We were shooting it out as an idea, to see how many people were behind it. We've evolved into something else."

His boss's latest approach, Espinosa said, is to introduce legislation to "withhold financial aid to foreign countries by the estimated amount of remittance they receive." ...................

"Shame on him if he didn't know," said First Data's Niehaus, a registered Republican who ran Gov. Roy Romer's Office of Economic Development in the late 1980s. "The fact that they have no idea that our world headquarters and thousands of our employees are located in his district is really troubling. If they're that out of touch, what do they understand about this district?

"He is as cavalier about this company and its employees and the financial stability of his district and this state as he is toward other immigration issues," Niehaus said. "Clearly he doesn't want us here and doesn't care if we're here or not. It's even more troubling to hear that it wouldn't have changed his mind if he had known we were in his district. Where is his sense of leadership and diplomacy if he doesn't consider the impact his actions have on his constituents?"

Pete Ziverts, a vice president for public affairs for First Data, said the company paid more than half a billion dollars in federal taxes last year. "But the issue is bigger than First Data," he said. "Remittance money and foreign aid are enormous sources of income for many poor countries in the world. In Mexico, remittance money is the country's second- largest source of revenue. In El Salvador, it's No. 1."

More bad news for Tancredo: The company incorporated a political action committee last month, First Data Corporation Employees for Responsible Government.

"We're going to support the candidate that best supports our interests, that can best provide leadership for this constituency," Niehaus said. "And we don't believe it's Tancredo. We're opting for change."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/business_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_82_2939929,00.html

[sinkspur]

Why aren't we encouraging them to do their civic duty to their host country and fund infrastructure development here?

You're the one who made this suggestion.

I was just trying to get a few more bucks out of them.

You gotta admit, hedge, that this was a pretty dumb idea.

[sinkspur]

Pete Ziverts, a vice president for public affairs for First Data, said the company paid more than half a billion dollars in federal taxes last year

Ouch! And Tancredo wanted to kill this golden goose!

[Reeses]

on the THIRD hand