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Reuteman: Tancredo's name mud with execs at First Data
InsideDenver.com ^ | June 5, 2004 | Rob Reuteman

Posted on 06/14/2004 7:47:14 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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To: JackelopeBreeder
Don't be surprised if Tom tells FDR to go pack sand.

I won't be. He's done dumb stuff before.

61 posted on 06/14/2004 10:09:19 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: bayourod
Most Republican and conservative economists agree that money going overseas returns to the US and because of the multiplier effect is on-balance favorable.

Now is where I get to tell you to stuff your Mexican apologist agenda and STFU! I don't know if Fox's check to you is in the mail but I have to tell you no one is buying it. You are only the latest of Mexico's agents to fail convincing us that their leeching of our resources is good for anyone other than traitors enriching themselves from near-slave labor and the elitists who control the Mexican government while using us to get rid of citizens who don't meet their criteria of whiteness. Fox and his Spanish Castilian pals have been getting over at the expense of thousands of educated people from other countries trying to get here legally. Mexico has done nothing but promote corruption and crime while perpetuating a system of government that would collapse if we stopped acting as their personal welfare state.

Rethink your position or put a sock in it. Too many of our border Freepers suffer every day for the likes of you attempting to legitimize the unacceptable. Better yet, move to Mexico and rescind your American citizenship.

62 posted on 06/14/2004 10:14:54 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: sinkspur
I won't be. He's done dumb stuff before.

Yep. I personally think he gets a woodie every time he makes our elected jellyfish go swimming away in fright with a collective case of the vapors.

63 posted on 06/14/2004 10:15:58 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: hunter112
I can't imagine being able to buy things on eBay from Canadians, then letting me use PayPal to pay them, and having my Canadian seller get five percent boosted away!

There is a difference between and business transaction and a remittance. Your purchase of a product from a Canadian on ebay is not the same as unregulated foreign aid through remittances.
64 posted on 06/14/2004 10:19:14 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: bayourod

Remittances ARE foreign aid. Do you have any knowledge at all of international politics, and the FTAA?


65 posted on 06/14/2004 10:20:32 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Mulder

Exactly.


66 posted on 06/14/2004 10:20:52 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: sinkspur
Regularize them, and we could collect taxes from them.

Regularizing them would be rewarding them for violating our laws. How about increasing the number of legal immigrants that we let in each year and then collect taxes from them.

67 posted on 06/14/2004 10:22:02 PM PDT by usadave
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To: hedgetrimmer
The fact that so much money flows out of our country unregulated is bad for the United States and creates a systemic dependency on illegal immigration by these other countries, is lost on this corporation.

The Federal Reserve loves printing money that doesn't return to inflate the US economy.

68 posted on 06/14/2004 10:22:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: hunter112

First Data Corporation is setting up a fascistic NGO because they are the arbitors of good governance? Good governance a la the United Nations where business IS the government and citizens of nations have no right to borders, their culture and their country because it interferes with commerce?


69 posted on 06/14/2004 10:23:00 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: sinkspur

Why do you support a corporation that is clearly disrespects the constitutional authority of Congress to regulate foreign aid? The internationalists that want to dissovle our borders agree with you.

A river of gold

Every month, Lucas Zelaya, a supervisor at a Washington, D.C., parking garage, sends at least $200 to his mother in San Alejo, his hometown in El Salvador. His remittances, together with those made by millions of other migrant workers in the United States, snowball into billions of dollars a year, a massive movement of capital that has already surpassed the financing multilateral lending agencies provide Latin America and the Caribbean...
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Migrant workers are also being courted by authorities in Latin America. Mexico’s president Vicente Fox, who calls these expatriates “heroes,” has appointed a cabinet-level representative to mind Mexican migrants’ affairs. He even raised the issue of remittances at the Summit of the Americas held in April 2001 in Quebec City, Canada, where he urged other Western Hemisphere nations to work to cut the costs of wiring funds.

http://www.iadb.org/idbamerica/English/OCT01E/oct01e3.html


70 posted on 06/14/2004 10:27:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

That reminds me very much of one of Lord Cornwallis' speeches in The Patriot. Or loosely quoting one of the Soviet Union's leading lights:

"Some day we will hang all of the capitalists -- with a rope they gladly sold to us."

From a really skewed viewpoint: "It's not the principle of the thing, it's the money."


71 posted on 06/14/2004 10:30:54 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Vicente Fox calls illegal immigrants "heroes".


72 posted on 06/14/2004 10:39:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Sorry I stepped into this, maybe First Data has the right to dupe poor stupid Mexicans and buy Congressmen with the money, and I should just respect their freedom to do so. I guess being troubled by living in this in-between world where alien workers are not fully legal, but the things they do are not fully illegal, and the people who make a buck off of them are always legal, is just my personal problem, and has no place in the national debate.


73 posted on 06/14/2004 10:42:06 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: hedgetrimmer
Sorry guys, this isn't the worst of it. I don't know if any of you saw the article (it was AP, I believe) a couple of weeks ago regarding money transfers? It was reprinted in our local paper in the business section.

One of the Asst. Treasury Sec.'s was quoted as saying that he had a high-level meeting at the summit in Georgia last week to help to facilitate these transfers...make them "easier" for people.

Funny how this shows up just afterward, is it not?

74 posted on 06/14/2004 10:42:06 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: bayourod
The proposed tax applies to everyone

How do you know that? The article clearly stated that they were looking to tax remittances. Why don't you post the proposal that said its just, in your politically correct terminology, "out of status workers".
75 posted on 06/14/2004 10:44:02 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: bayourod
According to Hernandez, 870,000 Mexicans get "some or all of their resources" from US remittances; the average remittance is $300, with most migrants sending home money once or twice a month.

Some 900 migrants from El Trapiche, Oaxaca work in North San Diego county nurseries. Their remittances sustain the isolated village but, using 3-1 matching funds from the Mexican government


So the Mexican government matches remittance money to encourage these "heroes" to bleed the US taxpayer dry.

"Tom Daschle said "I think that it ought to be our goal that we have a free-pass border at some point in the future.

http://www.australia-travel-visa-immigration.com/news/adelaide/dec_2001-06mn.asp
76 posted on 06/14/2004 10:47:59 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: garandgal

The reduction of remittance fees has been discussed at great length at the Summit of the Americas. It is one of the requirements for Mexico to join the FTAA. Our fawning DC politicians will do anything so that Mexico signs on to the FTAA.


77 posted on 06/14/2004 10:49:36 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

I would support such a tax ONLY if it went directly into construction of a high-tech barrier on the Mexican border on which anything attempting to cross to a depth of 25 feet would be vaporized.


78 posted on 06/14/2004 10:53:14 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: hunter112

Your opinion means much in the national debate. Sure, you're in Wasington State, but the problem is spreading.

I live right on the Mexican border. Last Thursday a big bunch of illegals were busted in my front yard. It was grand and glorious, but nobody confratulated me for not decorating my mantle piece with their heads.

Nope, there are members of this forum who would have whined bitterly because their cheap lettuce, cheap lawn care, and cheap slave labor were threatened. Never mind that every time I or my neighbors have to repair property damage, home burglaries, or vehicle theft we're subsidizing their nice little standard of living...


79 posted on 06/14/2004 10:58:45 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: bayourod
Looks like your boy is going to have a brown nose for a long time just to keep his seat. He can forget about any advancement within Congress. He'll never have a committee chairmanship. This idiotic tax proposal probably just established him as m member of the lunatic fringe among Republican Congressmen. And then to not even know that the target of his idiocy is the largest employer in his district marks this clown as a real loser. Yeah, much better to support a winner like Chris "MALDEF" Cannon (R-UT). C'mon, get with the winning team! Sovereignty, schmovereignty!
80 posted on 06/14/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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