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Hoffman says "c- word" can be "term of endearment"
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| 6/15/2004
| Adam Schrager
Posted on 06/15/2004 10:11:04 AM PDT by rface
In a sworn statement to be made public Tuesday, University of Colorado President Elizabeth Hoffman said a four-letter word used toward women can sometimes be used as a "term of endearment."
The comment comes from Hoffman's latest sworn testimony in connection with a federal lawsuit against the university.
The suit was filed by women who say they were sexually assaulted by CU football players and recruits.
A lawyer for one of the women asked Hoffman about former CU kicker Katie Hnida being called the "c- word" by a teammate.
That player was later disciplined by coach Gary Barnett for making the remark.
In the deposition, Hoffman was asked whether the "c-word" is "filthy and vile."
She said she knows the word is a swear word, but "It is all in the context of what--of how it is used and when it is used."
She was asked, "Can you indicate any polite context in which that word would be used?"
Hoffman answered, "Yes, I've actually heard it used as a term of endearment."
A CU spokeswoman said President Hoffman is aware of the negative connotations associated with the word.
But, the spokesperson said, because Hoffman is a medieval scholar, she is aware of the long history of the word. She said it was not always a negative term.
Additionally, some CU critics are scheduled to meet with Gov. Bill Owens Tuesday, to talk about how the university is handling the football recruiting scandal.
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so now we can go to Hillary's Book signings and yell out the "C-word" and it might be taken as a term of endearment.
BTW.....What is the c-word?
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:11:06 AM PDT
by
rface
To: rface
Hoffman answered, "Yes, I've actually heard it used as a term of endearment." Oh my lord. It's actually the one word that will guarantee you a kick in the groin from any woman in earshot. This has got to be one of the most delusional things I've ever heard.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:13:19 AM PDT
by
johnfrink
To: rface; hellinahandcart; KLT; NYC GOP Chick; cyborg
I don't know.
Chick?
Cupcake?
Maybe the ladies here can help.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:13:33 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
To: rface
To: rface
I wonder if they'd consider applying the same standard to the famous n-word?
Which also at one time in history carried little pejorative meaning.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:13:57 AM PDT
by
Restorer
To: rface
But, the spokesperson said, because Hoffman is a medieval scholar, she is aware of the long history of the word. She said it was not always a negative term. Well now, isn't that special?
OBTW, the young woman in question wasn't called the c-word in 895 AD, now was she?
Freakin' academics.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:14:02 AM PDT
by
HiJinx
(Go with courage, go with honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when it's time. We'll be here.)
To: rface
BTW.....What is the c-word?Uhhh....Cool???
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:14:15 AM PDT
by
ladtx
( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
To: rface; biblewonk
This is ridiculous! Watching a female university president go to such lengths while desperatly trying to save her university from harm...!
BTW.....What is the c-word?
I suspect it rhymes with "hunt."
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:14:42 AM PDT
by
newgeezer
(We learn by trail and errror. ;-)
To: ladtx
To: martin_fierro
You love Hillary Tree Music?
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:14:57 AM PDT
by
HiJinx
(Go with courage, go with honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when it's time. We'll be here.)
To: rface
My comments to Hillary would go something like this.
"ya know, for and old b***h, You arent a bad looking old c**t."
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:15:00 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
To: sauropod
The word is "conservative." I mean, would you like anyone calling you that?
To: rface
So if she is at a bar and calls some guy a d*ck, that means she might be coming on to him. Right?
To: rface; CSM
Maybe back in the middle ages, the "F" word was a good word. But I don;t think I'm going to teach my kid that and let him use it as a term of endearment. This 'ho is crazy, and I don't mean that in a good way.
To: HiJinx
Hoffman is a medieval scholar.....
I can see a new class offering in her future - "History of the 'C-Word'".
3 credits towards a Womans History Major.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:16:47 AM PDT
by
rface
(Ashland, Missouri -)
To: rface
It rhymes with the word punt.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:17:07 AM PDT
by
rintense
(Screw justice. I want revenge.)
To: rface
BTW.....What is the c-word? I'm afraid it cun't be said here on FR.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:17:42 AM PDT
by
TankerKC
(R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
To: martin_fierro
To: HiJinx
No, silly. It's "I love Hiliary's bushtoon".
To: rface
I just watched Hoffman in "Runaway Jury".
Totally anti-gun movie. With those values, no wonder Hoffman is off his rocker.
To: newgeezer
BTW.....What is the c-word?I suspect it rhymes with "hunt."
Actually, since it came from a football school, I thought it might rhyme with "Punt"?
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:18:15 AM PDT
by
Christian4Bush
(I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
To: rface
Appears we should know where the problem at CU is. It's not just the football team. It goes right to the top. Isn't CU the #1 party school?
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:18:24 AM PDT
by
mpreston
To: rface
BTW.....What is the c-word? C-u-t-e
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:18:33 AM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
To: rface
Term of endearment, eh? If true, I could very well get out of the doghouse ;)
(as if she'll buy it)
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:18:40 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: Billthedrill
Well, it's usually applied to me as if it were a swearword!
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:18:45 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
To: rface
Well maybe that's the nicest thing any man ever called her!
To: rface
So, according to Hoffman, when I called my high school gym teacher a pri_k, it could have been a loving word? HAHAHA! Hardly. Explains a lot about the teacher though.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:19:42 AM PDT
by
rintense
(Screw justice. I want revenge.)
To: rface
....3 credits towards a Womans History Major...
That's Wymyns to you, Bub. We must not insult the dames after all!
To: rface
"Yes, I've actually heard it used as a term of endearment." "Have you met my wife. She's a real c _ _ _."
I guess it all depends on your definition of endearing.
To: sauropod
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:20:08 AM PDT
by
linn37
(Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
To: cripplecreek
"ya know, for and old b***h, You arent a bad looking old c**t."Hence the notion that it is a term of endearment.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:20:10 AM PDT
by
brewcrew
To: newgeezer
I think the C-word is rather blunt.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:20:16 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(Ronald Reagan: 1015 electoral votes.)
To: rface
Considering it is CU, I would say the C word for endearment is "CASH".
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:20:19 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: rface
BTW.....What is the c-word?
The word punt rhymes with this item of the female anatomy, somewhat like Deloris. And it doesn't rhyme with the actors first name who played the Callahan character.
To: mpreston
Isn't CU the #1 party school? It varies year to year -- schools like Arizona St., San Diego St., and UC Santa Barbara are usually in the running as well.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:21:06 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: TankerKC
"Yes, I've actually heard it used as a term of endearment." If I was in charge here, I'd ask her to repeat the instances when she actually "heard" this term used in an endearing manner. Then I'd laugh my ass off!
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:21:19 AM PDT
by
rface
(Ashland, Missouri -)
To: AppyPappy
No no. That's endowment. Not endearment!
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:21:37 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
To: sauropod
To: rface
Yeah right...
If I used that "term of endearment," I'd be sleeping on the couch for the forseeable future.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:22:17 AM PDT
by
jmstein7
(A Judge not bound to the original intent of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
To: johniegrad
oh - I thought it was 'I love hillary's bonzai note'.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:22:24 AM PDT
by
Frapster
(Biscuits & Gravy Extraordinair)
To: johniegrad
To: brewcrew
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:22:43 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
To: johnfrink
"Oh my lord. It's actually the one word that will guarantee you a kick in the groin from any woman in earshot."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought "The Vagina Monologues" (celebrated by liberals) invoked the "c" word as an affirmation of female pride.
To: cripplecreek
When it comes to that evil sack of flesh, that was nice. I commend you.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:25:53 AM PDT
by
brewcrew
To: rface
Is anyone else having flashbacks of "That depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is."??
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:26:01 AM PDT
by
georgiadevildog
(Get to work. You aren't being paid to believe in the power of your dreams.)
To: rface
Colorado Universitys Nonsensical Testimony
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:26:53 AM PDT
by
TankerKC
(R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
To: wmichgrad
I think the older Lynyrd Skynyrd song "Gimme Threee Steps" uses this term of endearment in the live version from the album "One More from the Road"
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:27:12 AM PDT
by
rface
(Ashland, Missouri -)
To: Restorer
What a silly person. What I guess she means is that the "c" word might be said to a woman playfully, ie in a joking way, rather than with a mean intension. Term of endearment, I do not think so.
BTW, when Jim Rice was with the Red Sox some silly reporter heard a teammate or someone with the club call him an " ole bush "n"-word." It was apparently playful and both Rice and whomever said it, denied it and claimed he called Rice an "Ole Bush." And of course if you are African-American, wait scratch that, a black African-American you can use the "n"-word all you want. It is the first segregated word.
The silliness that these people who want to use words to disqualify people except like in the case of Gary Barnett at CU this time when they don't want the word, which by the way Barnett is not accused of saying to disqualify someone. The beauty of PC.
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:28:08 AM PDT
by
JLS
To: rface

"Who? Mike Hunt? Hold on i'll check....."
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posted on
06/15/2004 10:29:04 AM PDT
by
Rebelbase
( aka Gassybrowneyedbum)
To: rface
4-letter c-word..
I thought Couric had more letters than that.
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