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Mud-bogging host slapped with huge fine
Palm Beach Post ^ | 6-15-04 | Eve Modzelewski

Posted on 06/15/2004 11:16:04 AM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: ClearCase_guy

I am sure some real estate developer is keeping an eye for this parcel to come up on auction...


21 posted on 06/15/2004 11:48:46 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi)
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To: Liberal Classic
"...I am sure some real estate developer is keeping an eye for this parcel to come up on auction..."

Maybe one of those "lesser publicized" auctions where relatives and friends of local gubbmint jagoffs always win?

22 posted on 06/15/2004 11:53:11 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: JoeSixPack1
In another year, my place in Juno Beach will have tripled from what I paid for it in 92. Can't beat the real estate in this area.

A friend of mine has been up there (Memorial Day weekend) and said there were a lot of people there, but he was told before that it's been dozens or hundreds, not THOUSANDS like the Post couldn't help but point out. Have you heard anything different?

Also, the county jagoffs said the fines were mainly for the "signs?" Huh? $2.8 million for putting up some signs?

23 posted on 06/15/2004 11:56:31 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

I've been saying for years that the real threat to our freedoms comes not from Washington, but from petty bureaucrats and tin-pot politicians in counties and towns all over the country. They want to tell you how to live your life and what to do with your property. They're the only ones in office because most Americans weren't raised by hippie parents to be "activists" and are too busy making a living and raising a family to take the time to boss other people around. I live in south Florida and some of the worst of these petty tyrants are right here.


24 posted on 06/15/2004 11:57:39 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: FlJoePa

Yep, it does sound the county would like his land. Coincidently, I attended my first mug bog Saturday night. My teenagers were going and invited the old folks to attend. We had a blast but were quite disappointed in the several youngsters who drove their 30K four wheel drives into that muck. I was just waiting for a rod to sling up into the audience.

Incidentally, this mud bog was held out in the boonies and I could see cows grazing, unfazed, just beyond where I was sitting. The neighboring ranchers' claim seems bogus to me.


25 posted on 06/15/2004 12:09:07 PM PDT by Quilla (God bless America, President George W. Bush, our brave troops, and Freepers everywhere.)
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To: ohiocreek
Sounds like he was advised that he was violating the law and continued to do so. We don't pick and choose which laws we adhere to in this country, the law is the law.

Tell that to the mayor of San Francisco. As far as Leftists are concerned, laws never apply to them, only to their opponents.

26 posted on 06/15/2004 12:09:52 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: Wolfie

"This is the kind of thing that leads to bulldozer rampages"

The authorities will probably confiscate his welding equipment.


27 posted on 06/15/2004 12:13:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( aka Gassybrowneyedbum)
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To: FlJoePa
Here's the problem - the FedGov and the State have outlawed or severely restricted OHVs across the state. These people move to private land but that's still not good enough for the gov't.

Most code enforcers and county boards can selectively pursue or not pursue cases. Looks like they are sticking it to this guy unfairly.

28 posted on 06/15/2004 12:14:57 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: FlJoePa

Im in Port St. Lucie, the word of mouth around town is that Crowder was really miffed because he had to supply traffic control and the county was going gahgah because the land owner was bad mouthing them to the local news channels. I don't know much about the signage problem.

This guy could have made it all work if he kept his mouth under control and gave out a few handouts here and there and paid the Sheriff. But seeing as how the county bumped everything up to millions, I doubt this guy has a choice now.

Maybe the nearby landfill was threatened? Who knows. Martin County is between a rock (West Palm) and a hard place (St. Lucie).

The new deal is for Palm Beach County to hookup with Martin and St. Lucie county to compete with Broward and Dade. Palm Beach has been taking a beating from Dade for long enough.

Then there is the political angle. Martin is sandwiched between lefty Palm Beach and St. Lucie which is becoming Lefty Pam Beach refugees aka "St. Lucie West".


29 posted on 06/15/2004 12:15:58 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
If he had worked with the county paid-off the local political mob bosses after the first mud bog and offered them a share of attendance, sheriff overtime charges for traffic control protection money, county management input, cohesion contract with existing county show schedules and basically said, here, run it, "may I lick your boots?", there would be no million dollar fines extortion.
30 posted on 06/15/2004 12:18:31 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: SpyGuy

You nailed it! <|:-)~~


31 posted on 06/15/2004 12:19:40 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
I guess I agree with your demographic assessment of the area, but (and I'm sure you know) I'd add that the North County area of Palm Beach is very conservative.

Until you cross PGA Blvd going south, you don't run into too many liberals.

32 posted on 06/15/2004 12:22:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: ohiocreek

We don't pick and choose which laws we adhere to in this country.



Yes we do.

Stupid ones get ignored. And such laws sometimes get repealed.

Think we might still be driving "55" if everyone had your obedient attitude?


33 posted on 06/15/2004 12:22:35 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: FlJoePa

I deny the authority of counties to "zone". Actually, I deny the zoning authority of cities as well, but at least people knowingly choose to live under city ordinances. People out in the county are often there because they don't *want* the city government crap.

Secondly, if it's 900 acres, I'm fairly confident that there was plenty of room to do whatever they wanted without bothering the neighbors.


34 posted on 06/15/2004 12:30:31 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: FlJoePa

In several African countries - landowners are having their land forcibly taken from them.

Here in the good 'ole US, nothing like that happens. Government officials just tax and fine it away from you.


35 posted on 06/15/2004 12:35:25 PM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: FlJoePa
Until you cross PGA Blvd going south, you don't run into too many liberals.

To the old time libs in PBC, anything north of PGA Blvd is still the end of civilization.

<|:-)~~

36 posted on 06/15/2004 12:36:29 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: Sloth
I'm fairly confident that there was plenty of room to do whatever they wanted without bothering the neighbors.

The noise trespass alone is worth filing the code violation.

37 posted on 06/15/2004 12:37:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Sloth

The noise from one mudbogger will carry 3 miles. That is 9000 acres, not 900 acres. Times 2000 mudboggers and you would need 20,000 acres.


38 posted on 06/15/2004 12:40:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale
What's a "noise trespass?" And who determines when it occurs?
39 posted on 06/15/2004 12:40:52 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

It's a legal matter.


40 posted on 06/15/2004 12:42:04 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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