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CA: Driver's license bill clears crucial first test in Legislature
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/15/04 | Jim Wasserman - AP

Posted on 06/15/2004 5:29:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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This story doesn't answer the key question: Will this bill be voted on as an "urgency bill," which would prevent it from going to the ballot? If so, 2/3rds of the legislature must vote Aye. Given the demonstrated intense unpopularity of driver's licenses for illegals, there would not be the
necessary six Republican votes in the Assembly, and Arnold would be off the hook. If the legislature passes it as a normal bill, something the Dems of course can accomplish on their own with votes to spare, it would ignite another firestorm, go on the ballot (unless the "Nutty Ninth" Circuit finds a way to prevent that) and lose by a healthy margin.

The only bad thing about Arnold's very high job-approval numbers is that he might be tempted to think he can shaft the Republican -- strike that, the non-liberal -- base by signing this thing and still get away with it politically.


41 posted on 06/16/2004 12:04:49 AM PDT by California Patriot (California Patriot)
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"The challenge of leadership is to do what is right even it's not popular," Cedillo told committee members Tuesday when reminded that 70 percent of Californians opposed the Los Angeles Democrat's similar 2003 bill that was passed and signed by former Gov. Gray Davis only to be repealed last December under pressure from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I see that Cedillo, the diehard racist that he is, is still pushing his driver's licenses for illegal alien lawbreakers bill. Cedillo will do anything to help his fellow Latinos, the illegal aliens. With people like Cedillo, a person's race takes priority over a person's nationality.

42 posted on 06/16/2004 12:12:53 AM PDT by usadave
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Replies number 5, 8, 17, 24, 26, 37 and 38 sound like they were submitted by either a liberal, a moderate or a Mexican national. I am grateful that the lack of core conservative principals exhibited in these replies is in a distinct minority in California. At a 70% rate of disapproval, even the average, third grade educated Californian can apparently see the problem with the capitulations suggested.

I can only imagine the turmoil that would take place in this state if these opinions were in the majority and our government in California simply opened up our tax coffers and our property rights to every poor person in Mexico and allowed the Mexican government to divvy up the spoils.

43 posted on 06/16/2004 5:01:34 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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I would be right of Reagan in my politics, so if that is liberal by your standards, you must be some ball of fire.

Bottom line on the issue for me is that if there is this card, that it has no value as ID for anything else but the road.
As it is they can legally drive here with the license from their own country, so why the need for the new license.

The real battle is that our liberals want the SAME drivers license for illegals as the citizens and that won't do because they would use it to access the system, so my idea is:
Give them a new card they can't get benefits from and make it distinctly different from a normal license.
Make them post a bond of 10,000 to drive here with that license.
Don't allow that license to be used for employment here as a driver.
Don't make that license any form of legal document for anything but driving.
You would not be able to use the liscence for bank accounts, but may be used for getting insurance and that is it.
Maybe they should also be forced on a semi-yearly basis to show a proof of maintaining insurance while here.
The card should not prevent them in any way from being booted out if they on some other occasion are discovered here as illegals.


44 posted on 06/16/2004 2:37:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I have a couple points to bring up:

1. The proponents of this bill state that it's about "highway safety"... if that were the case, then why does the bill also allow California ID Cards to be issued to illegal aliens as well?? (see below text from the bill):

Existing law requires the department to require every applicant for an original driver's license or identification card to submit satisfactory proof that the applicant's presence in the United States is authorized under federal law and prohibits the department from issuing a license or card to a person who does not do so. Existing law requires the department to adopt regulations, including procedures for verifying citizenship or legal residency of applicants for driver's licenses and identification cards.
This bill would repeal those requirements.

2. They are trying to make this bill "referendum proof" by passing it as an "urgency statute". If this passes in its present form, it will take effect immediately after the Governor signs it. The earliest a referendum could reach the ballot is March 2005. By then hundreds of thousands of these illegal alien licenses will have been issued. Here is the urgency language in the bill:

This act is an urgency statute necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety within the meaning of Article IV of the Constitution and shall go into immediate effect. The facts constituting the necessity are: In order to reduce the number of unlicensed drivers on our highways, who account for 20 percent of all accidents and, thereby, compromise public safety, it is necessary that this act take effect immediately.

45 posted on 06/16/2004 2:58:26 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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The real battle is ..... removing two classes of institutional parasites from California as fast as possible.... illegal aliens and liberal politicians.

Presently they both are sucking the life out of the public revenue stream.

The first two gone should be Cedillo and Nunez, both anchor babies.

46 posted on 06/16/2004 8:19:56 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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The liberal has been deeply set here and well funded. I suspect because of the entertainment industry that there has been that long time foot hold here.
President Reagan was here representing their actors union long ago and saw also the communist threat inside it.

The way a liberal gets power is by coveting and accessing another's goods. They they use that money to grow their voting base through government/union employment and dependence programs IMO.

The way we take back California is to in small steps educate the public and generate appropriate candidates that can slowly bring the middle voter to the conservative side of the isle.

It will be a slow but worthwhile process.


47 posted on 06/16/2004 9:50:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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