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Catholics outsource praying to India
The Tri-Valley Herald Online ^ | Article Last Updated: Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 9:14:38 AM PST | By Saritha Rai

Posted on 06/15/2004 7:13:10 PM PDT by Russian Sage

Edited on 07/09/2004 12:51:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

BANGALORE, India -- With Roman Catholic clergy in short supply in the United States, Indian priests are picking up some of their work, saying Mass for special intentions, in a sacred if unusual version of outsourcing. American, as well as Canadian and European churches, are sending Mass intentions, or requests for services like those to remember deceased relatives and thanksgiving prayers, to clergy in India. About 2 percent of India's more than 1 billion people are Christians, most of them Catholics.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: catholic; india; outsource

1 posted on 06/15/2004 7:13:11 PM PDT by Russian Sage
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To: Russian Sage
It's Bush's fault!
2 posted on 06/15/2004 7:14:25 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Russian Sage

When I read the headline, I thought this was from The Onion.


3 posted on 06/15/2004 7:15:31 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Willie Green

ping


4 posted on 06/15/2004 7:16:32 PM PDT by null and void ( 'IF' the middle letters in 'life.')
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To: neutrino

ping


5 posted on 06/15/2004 7:16:59 PM PDT by null and void ( 'IF' the middle letters in 'life.')
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To: ScottFromSpokane

This really is the most amazing story. If someone comes along and says it's from the Onion and mislabeled, I will be much happier!


6 posted on 06/15/2004 7:17:51 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Vote for GWB in November - make liberals miserable for ANOTHER four years!)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Me too. *sigh*


7 posted on 06/15/2004 7:17:57 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........Hatred is the bastard child of ignorance........)
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To: Russian Sage

Oh My Gosh I have to show this to my Pastor!!! Already showed it to my husband who works for EDS, what a hoot!


8 posted on 06/15/2004 7:19:18 PM PDT by Diva
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To: Russian Sage

It's a true story, at least if you can trust the NY Times.

Here's the link to the Times article (registration required):

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/13/international/asia/13INDI.html


9 posted on 06/15/2004 7:19:58 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Russian Sage
The evil "Free-Traitors" will stop at nothing!
I bet they make their Rosary Beads in China using slave labor too.
10 posted on 06/15/2004 7:28:09 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Diva
John Tetzel ping

"The prayer is heartfelt, and every prayer is treated as the same whether it is paid for in dollars, euros or in rupees."

11 posted on 06/15/2004 7:32:35 PM PDT by Russian Sage
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To: null and void; iamright; AM2000; Iscool; wku man; Lael; international american; No_Doll_i; ...
Thanks for the ping, Null-and-Void!

I suppose the next thing we'll hear is that China is willing to do the same thing for $2.00!

Offshore folks, you've got to see this!

If you want on or off my offshoring ping list, please FReepmail me!

12 posted on 06/15/2004 7:35:26 PM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Russian Sage

I'm not Catholic. What is the usual donation which accompanies a request in the US?


13 posted on 06/15/2004 7:38:36 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Russian Sage

"I think it was entirely and extraordinarily inappropriate, and I think it speaks for itself," Massachusetts senator jean francoise kerri, who is Catholic, told reporters in a question-and-answer session outside Cincinnati, Ohio.


14 posted on 06/15/2004 7:40:27 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: NYer

An "I don't know what to think about this" Catholic ping!


15 posted on 06/15/2004 8:04:29 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Texas_Dawg

Ping


16 posted on 06/15/2004 8:42:11 PM PDT by null and void ( 'IF' the middle letters in 'life.')
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To: Russian Sage

American prayer production is at an all-time high. America is exporting prayers and is enjoying a prayer surplus rather than a prayer deficit. Some worry that America will lose its lead in prayer production capacity, while others say that the actual components of the prayers will continue to be manufactured in the U.S. but the final assembly and product send-off will be handled less expensively by Indian priests. Some have claimed that the Indian priests have an unfair advantage in that they do not have the expensive overhead in lawyer costs that some American priests have.


17 posted on 06/15/2004 9:03:35 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Numbers Guy

Wow... weird story! However, no registration needed if you have Mozilla Firefox and the Bugmenot plugin! otherwise login as "logins_bite_it" (without the quotation marks) and use "password" as the password... also sans quote marks.


18 posted on 06/15/2004 9:12:27 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: dcwusmc

Or, you can just Google the URL and jump from the result.


19 posted on 06/15/2004 9:46:33 PM PDT by Russian Sage
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To: PAR35
I'm not Catholic. What is the usual donation which accompanies a request in the US?

$10,000.

Seriously, whatever one can afford.

20 posted on 06/15/2004 9:48:26 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; null and void; Numbers Guy
It's a true story, at least if you can trust the NY Times.

Well that should be the first clue that something is severely false and misleading.

An "I don't know what to think about this" Catholic ping!

This is one of the methods by which American Catholics have ALWAYS donated money to help support the Church's missionary work in Third World nations.
This "outsourcing" spin is simply another deliberate misinterpretation by the liberal media to place the Catholic Church in a negative perspective.

21 posted on 06/15/2004 9:56:55 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
"American prayer production is at an all-time high. America is exporting prayers and is enjoying a prayer surplus rather than a prayer deficit. Some worry that America will lose its lead in prayer production capacity, while others say that the actual components of the prayers will continue to be manufactured in the U.S. but the final assembly and product send-off will be handled less expensively by Indian priests. Some have claimed that the Indian priests have an unfair advantage in that they do not have the expensive overhead in lawyer costs that some American priests have."

Very, very funny piece of writing! Thanks for the laugh. (You were being cynical, weren't you?????)

22 posted on 06/15/2004 10:02:05 PM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: ScottFromSpokane
When I read the headline, I thought this was from The Onion.

After reading the whole article, I'm *still* not sure. :-)

23 posted on 06/15/2004 10:04:32 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Moonmad27
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24 posted on 06/15/2004 10:06:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sinkspur
Seriously, whatever one can afford.

I was trying to figure out what the spread was. Perhaps the priests in India should more directly market their services in this country, particularly where liberal Bishops are closing parishes.

25 posted on 06/16/2004 7:22:17 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

In our parish the mass donation is $5.00, of course, you can always make a larger donation> :-}


26 posted on 06/16/2004 7:33:27 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

I don't know about elsewhere but our Mass book is filled within weeks every year and we have a small parish and daily Mass. This is a good way to help Catholics in poor areas.


27 posted on 06/16/2004 7:39:30 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
In our parish the mass donation is $5.00, of course, you can always make a larger donation> :-}

I don't know about elsewhere but our Mass book is filled within weeks every year and we have a small parish and daily Mass.

These two statements are probably related - Sounds like you all are undercutting the priests in India who are getting $5.00-$10.00. In any event, there does not appear to be a large spread.

28 posted on 06/16/2004 8:08:56 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: neutrino; Gunslingr3

LOL - 212 - "I suppose the next thing we'll hear is that China is willing to do the same thing for $2.00! "

Perhaps we should outsource a prayer for Gunslinger!

I wonder, Indian, or Chinese? - Naw, let's make it a Chinese prayer - he would appreciate it more.


29 posted on 06/16/2004 4:14:31 PM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: XBob

Do you still suggest the Articles of Confederation were dropped because they insisted on free trade between the States? If so, why replace them with the Constitution which also insists on free trade between the States?


30 posted on 06/16/2004 4:15:31 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

30 - DUH, you are obviously incapable of understanding this.

No more will I address it with you.

"Never try to teach a pig to sing".


31 posted on 06/16/2004 7:12:24 PM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: dcwusmc
if you have Mozilla Firefox

Do you have to think in Russian to use it? (/obscure movie reference)

32 posted on 06/16/2004 7:15:14 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Poohbah; harpseal

I'm gonna ping Harpseal, this'd slay him. Surely they permit freeping in heaven.


33 posted on 06/16/2004 7:21:09 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Poohbah

Not sure... I never received the helmet and stuff. I have to use my touch pad... It'd be a shame if I do, 'cause I don't know enough about Russian to do more than get slapped... And I thought of the same flick when I saw this...


34 posted on 06/16/2004 7:34:51 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Coleus; A. Pole

This one crosses a couple of thread barriers!


35 posted on 06/16/2004 7:38:43 PM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: PAR35

Mass Intentions are usually $10-15.


36 posted on 06/16/2004 8:11:16 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Thanks.


37 posted on 06/16/2004 8:47:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

The usual request is only $5.00. The idea is that it should be available to everyone, and also not a "money-making scheme" for the priest. Mass Stipends, as they are called, usually are a thank you for the priest which he keeps (although some turn it over to their parish or diocese). Most people pay more than $5.00, maybe $25 or $50 or $100 if they have the means. On the other hand, a priest, if he has enough Masses, would not refuse to do one for a dime or a home-made loaf of bread if that's all the person could offer.


38 posted on 12/11/2005 10:57:44 PM PST by baa39
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To: baa39

Digging pretty deep through old threads to get back that far.


39 posted on 12/12/2005 10:23:01 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Ha ha, yes you're right. I was looking around and it seemed no one had really answered your question so I thought why not, better late than never.


40 posted on 12/12/2005 7:58:40 PM PST by baa39
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To: Russian Sage

There could be some real cost savings here. After all, the penitent Catholic doesn't actually see the priest during confession, does he? Couldn't you rig up a sound system and a telecommunications in the confession booth and have confession handled by someone in India?

Come to think of it, if the priest in India was good, would it matter if they did? I'm not Catholic--just asking.


41 posted on 12/12/2005 8:12:00 PM PST by Our man in washington
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