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Ron Reagan, Jr.: Bush-Hater?
NewsMax.com ^ | 15 June 2004 | Staff Report

Posted on 06/15/2004 7:22:09 PM PDT by txradioguy

Republicans were dismayed to hear Ron Reagan, Jr., deliver what sounded like a rebuke to President Bush during a final tribute before his father was buried on Friday.

Referring to his dad as "a deeply, unabashedly religious man," the Reagan son added, "But he never made the mistake the fatal mistake of so many politicians - wearing his faith on his sleeve to gain political advantage. . . "

"He accepted [his faith] as a responsibility, not a mandate," noted the presidential son. "And there is a profound difference."

Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said there was no doubt the comments were a slap at Bush, but noted that Reagan Jr., "is somebody who's on the left more than on the right."

"He's never been in lockstep with his father or his father's legacy," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

In fact, Bush supporters should probably consider themselves lucky that Ron Jr. was able to keep his Bush-bashing under wraps for as long as he did.

Commenting on the president's nomination four years ago, a less restrained Ron Jr. asked sarcastically, "What's his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk?"

A for President Reagan's religion, he was indeed unabashed when it came to his Christian faith. He was the first president in over a century who openly professed his faith in "Jesus Christ." He used almost every major public opportunity to invoke God, God's name or prayer.

One of his most famous speeches, where he called the Soviet Union an 'Evil Empire', was at a conference of Evangelical ministers.


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A bunch of us made note of this comment and what it ment on the live thread for the funeral and got poo poohed for thinking that Jr. was taking a potshot at W during his Eulogy. Glad to know I wasn't wrong.
1 posted on 06/15/2004 7:22:09 PM PDT by txradioguy
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To: txradioguy

i was wondering myself if patti and ron would vote for kerry this fall.


2 posted on 06/15/2004 7:24:36 PM PDT by no_problema
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To: txradioguy

Who cares. Any notoriety Ron Jr, or Patti for that matter, had was buried with their august father.


3 posted on 06/15/2004 7:25:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: txradioguy
Ron P. Reagan is just another sour liberal who has a difficult time accepting the fact that they are not in power. The hatred they spew will backfire, so I hope they keep it up. The more GWB ignores them, the louder they get, eventually America will see them for what they are
4 posted on 06/15/2004 7:26:17 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Dubya Loves his Country and All Who Defends Her, While the Democrats Jeopardize it for Legal Tender)
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To: txradioguy

I believe that Ron is known member of the Watermelon Party.


5 posted on 06/15/2004 7:26:30 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: txradioguy

This issue is best forgotten. It can't possibly do anyone any good.


6 posted on 06/15/2004 7:27:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: no_problema; cyncooper

There was an article yesterday in NewsMax talking about Patti's close relationship with Kerry and from what I understand Jr. is a Nader supporter.


7 posted on 06/15/2004 7:27:22 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: txradioguy
I've heard that Ron Jr. is or was a dog show commentator. Can anyone verify?

That said, to take a political swipe at ANYBODY at somebody's funeral is the epitome of TACKY. If he would have criticized Carter or Clinton it would be equally as tacky. Funerals are NOT the time for that.

8 posted on 06/15/2004 7:28:19 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Gun control = hitting your target)
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To: Lizavetta

"Funerals are NOT the time for that."

He must have mistakenly thought he was at the Wellstone Pep Rally.


9 posted on 06/15/2004 7:30:10 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: txradioguy
"But he never made the mistake the fatal mistake of so many politicians - wearing his faith on his sleeve to gain political advantage. . . "

Junior wears his politics on his sleeve -- at a funeral for his Dad.

10 posted on 06/15/2004 7:30:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Cicero

I fear we'll be reading/posting/hearing arguments and discussions about this matter for at least the next six or seven years.


11 posted on 06/15/2004 7:31:30 PM PDT by NCPAC ("Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: txradioguy

It was also a swipe at Michael Reagan.


12 posted on 06/15/2004 7:31:59 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: txradioguy
My take on it is that the comments were aimed at Bush, but missed its mark. Junior is simply mistaken about Bush's faith, which seems to fall right in line with President Reagan's.

That said, I thought Junior's comments were valid political points that don't get raised often enough. Joe Lieberman's did-I-mention-I'M-JEWISH campaign rhetoric came immediately to mind, as did Algore's blackface preacher Steppin Fetchit routine.

13 posted on 06/15/2004 7:31:59 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: txradioguy
Ron Jr. is a cokehead sissy who's done so much nose candy that his brain is gone. His sister Patti has banged more than a broken screen door.

Maureen (God, rest her soul) and Michael are the only children who showed love and respect to their father. Pardon the crass post, but it's heartbreaking to have witnessed the bastardization of President Reagan's burial buy his own son who bears his name. Absolutely hideous.
14 posted on 06/15/2004 7:32:44 PM PDT by Soylent Democrats
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To: Physicist

Don't forget that no pol ever carried a bigger Bible in public than Bill Clinton.


15 posted on 06/15/2004 7:33:49 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Soylent Democrats
His sister Patti has banged more than a broken screen door.

Or given more rides than Greyhound. She certainly looked it.

16 posted on 06/15/2004 7:34:01 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Gun control = hitting your target)
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To: Physicist

Valid points they might be. But a political rally...NOT a funeral for your father is the proper place to make your views known.


17 posted on 06/15/2004 7:34:01 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: COEXERJ145

He seems a little slack in the drawers. My wife commented on how Michael had to not only comfort his wife and family, but had to take care of Ron's wife during the final visit to the casket.


18 posted on 06/15/2004 7:34:49 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Soylent Democrats

"it's heartbreaking to have witnessed the bastardization of President Reagan's burial buy his own son who bears his name. Absolutely hideous."

AMEN!


19 posted on 06/15/2004 7:34:57 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: txradioguy

What a shame that this poor excuse for a man shares a name with such an incredible leader. He certainly will never attain greatness like his father. He doesn't have the basic character inside of him--if he did he would have known that such a comment at such a time was completely selfish and inappropriate.


20 posted on 06/15/2004 7:36:49 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.)
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To: txradioguy

I sure am glad that Nancy was alive to see to it that Reagan got the state funeral he deserved. I get the feeling that Patti and Ron would have done everything they could to have kept it short and would have buried him the day he died.


21 posted on 06/15/2004 7:38:19 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Soylent Democrats

My God..your words need to be framed!


22 posted on 06/15/2004 7:39:36 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: txradioguy

Ron Reagan Jr. has never been politically reliable. A larger part of that may owe to being in reaction to the father's politics, much as Candace Bergen reacted to her famous father's beliefs. Considering that Ron Reagan Jr. has not been much of a major player, maybe the institutional Hollywood crowd isn't buying it.


23 posted on 06/15/2004 7:41:47 PM PDT by alloysteel (Win one for the Gipper. He's watching, you know.)
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To: no_problema

patti and ron jr. are examples of spoiled hollywood brats who never worked a day in their lives and feel guilty as a result. We can only thank God that their father was able to raise a Country despite the fact that two (not three) of his own children turned out to be scumbags.


24 posted on 06/15/2004 7:43:52 PM PDT by Extremist
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To: COEXERJ145
I believe that Ron is known member of the Watermelon Party.

Ron and Patti don't know who the hell they are. They are both spoiled kids who have never grown up and will use their father's legacy to further their own ambitions, however weak they are.........

25 posted on 06/15/2004 7:44:51 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: My Favorite Headache

Thank you. I nearly wept when Ron Jr. squandered one, final moment to do his father proud. My blood pressure must have spiked more than 20 points following is dig at GWB and Christians, in general.

The kid dropped out of Yale to become a ballet dancer; what more needs to be said?


26 posted on 06/15/2004 7:46:26 PM PDT by Soylent Democrats
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To: txradioguy
He must have mistakenly thought he was at the Wellstone Pep Rally.

Or, perhaps, he wanted to convert his father's funeral into Wellstone Rally Version 2.0.

Fortunately for us, like everything else this punk does, he failed.

27 posted on 06/15/2004 7:46:41 PM PDT by Vision Thing (If you do not study Reagan, you'll never understand America.)
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To: txradioguy
Who knows what Ronald Reagan's son has on his mind. Perhaps, he was thinking of Clinton, manhandling that big Bible during the Monica Lewinsky scandal every time he was taped going in and out of church on Sunday. Bet, we haven't seen the likes of this since then?

Or, Bill Clinton, apparently inviting 3 men of the cloth to supposedly help counsel him to mend his wicked ways.

Or, how about the Reverend Jessie Jackson and the Reverend Al Sharpton, using their religious title to meddle in politics. Talk about separation between church and state.

Or, how about just about any democrat running for public office campaigning in black churches.

So who knows exactly what the son of Ronald Reagan was trying to convey. If he was taking a jab at President Bush, I'm sure his dearly beloved father would not agree. Maybe, sometime he will feel a heavenly pull on his earlobes for doing so.

28 posted on 06/15/2004 7:49:49 PM PDT by harpo11 (Now that Ronald Reagan is in Heaven, perhaps Jelly Beans might rain from the skies?)
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To: txradioguy
Hmmm, I actually thought of Clinton carrying his Bible around to and from Church on Sundays, rather than that comment being a slam at W. I sort of thought that Reagan considered Bush's Christian faith as genuine, and not something used for political gain.

I need to ratchet up my cynicism...

ATB
29 posted on 06/15/2004 7:49:50 PM PDT by RavenATB
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To: txradioguy

He's not nearly a quaint as he thinks. People will for get the ballet dancer/psuedo-journalist/dog show announcer soon enough.


30 posted on 06/15/2004 7:50:03 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Soylent Democrats

Ron is a total flake. His smirk on his face through the entire thing made me want to vomit...the entire week. All I could remember is the 1980s and his bashing his father left and right. Don't get me started on the other one..not only was her hair a crime scene but she is just so damn fake and in it for the money/book earnings for years to come...they could be the 2 easiest people to read through in the history of mankind.


31 posted on 06/15/2004 7:51:02 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: txradioguy

This is picky, but I've noticed certain press calling him Ron, Jr. I'm not too sure he is a Jr.


32 posted on 06/15/2004 7:51:51 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: txradioguy

Junior is just another data point to prove that there is no lifeguard in the gene pool.


33 posted on 06/15/2004 7:52:36 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Jimmy Carter is to blame)
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To: GOPyouth

he is not really Jr.


34 posted on 06/15/2004 7:53:38 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Jimmy Carter is to blame)
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To: Soylent Democrats

I hope he speaks at kerry's convention and screams at the top of his lungs "WE WIIL WIN!!.. WE WILL WIN!!" about 40 times. That would clench the election for Bush.


35 posted on 06/15/2004 7:54:10 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: RavenATB

President Reagan WOULD think W's faith is genuine...as most people in this country do. A staunch hard left Lib like Ron Jr. thinks it's a put on for political purposes.


36 posted on 06/15/2004 7:54:11 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: mad_as_he$$

LMFAO


37 posted on 06/15/2004 7:54:23 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: txradioguy

A sad aftermath for the funeral of the finest president in my lifetime. President Reagan was a man of faith but he left two offspring who are not believers. I would rather be a common man whose children love the Lord than walk in Reagan' boots. History will record him as a great leader. Eternity may record him as a failure because he did not "communicate" his faith to his children. Thank God for the adopted one - Michael!


38 posted on 06/15/2004 7:54:42 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Lizavetta

Is/has Patti ever been married? Current boy friend? I noticed she was alone.


39 posted on 06/15/2004 7:55:40 PM PDT by Wheens
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To: mad_as_he$$

I can't wait for the Ron defenders to come in here and defend him and his whore sister......it's gonna get bloody on this thread...


40 posted on 06/15/2004 7:55:41 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: txradioguy

Why doesn't anyone think it was a jab at Kerry? After all. Kerry is well known for making every church appearance a photo op. I think Kerry has USED his religion to the point of blasphemy. This could well have been a jap at him.


41 posted on 06/15/2004 7:55:56 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Doctor Don

Michael is and always will be one word: CLASS. He is Aces in my book and Ron's bio kids wish they had the pull and class that Michael has.


42 posted on 06/15/2004 7:57:09 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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To: GOPyouth

Daddy was Ronald Wilson
He is Ronald Prescott


43 posted on 06/15/2004 7:57:15 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: GOPyouth

You are technically correct. But going all the way back to 1981 I've heard him referred to as "Ron Jr."

Old habits die hard.


44 posted on 06/15/2004 7:57:21 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: Doctor Don
I noted on another thread that you don't need a degree in psychology to figure this one out. Two Presidential sons...namesakes in fact. Last time I saw Ron Reagan, Jr. he was hosting the Westminster Dog Show. Last time I saw Bush he was giving the State of the Union Adress. Go figure it out.

And here's something else I speculate. In 1980 when Reagan took office how old was Ronald Reagan, Jr.? I'm sure there were times at various functions when the Reagan children and the Bush children were in attendance. And the Bush boys...handsome, athletic, MACHO...and then there was Ronald Reagan, Jr. A ballet dancer. How much you wanna bet the Bush boys got the attention from Ronald Reagan, Sr. I'd put money on it.

45 posted on 06/15/2004 7:58:05 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: Wheens
I heard somewhere that she got her tubes tied because her mother was such a crappy mother.

She must be a lib with such tortured logic as that.

I don't know if she's married but Michael Reagan seems to be head and shoulders above Nancy's children.

46 posted on 06/15/2004 7:58:30 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Gun control = hitting your target)
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To: txradioguy

Ron is a creep, IMO. I happened to also notice that he never bowed his head during the various prayers. He just held his head up with a smug sort of look. He irritated the heck out of me.


47 posted on 06/15/2004 7:58:36 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Integrityrocks

"Why doesn't anyone think it was a jab at Kerry?"

Because of Ron's well doccumented hatred for W. It's naieve to think it was a swipe at Clintoon or F'n.


48 posted on 06/15/2004 7:58:40 PM PDT by txradioguy (It's Not A Choice Between Peace Or War...It's A Choice Between Fight Or Surrender)
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To: Doctor Don

Communicating his faith to his children and them being too self absorbed to get it are separate issues. They could not have not seen or experienced their father's Faith.


49 posted on 06/15/2004 7:59:11 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Hildy

50 posted on 06/15/2004 7:59:55 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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