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N. Korea:Why is this man smiling?(Kim's Great Game)
Time ^ | 06/14/04 | Anthony Spaeth

Posted on 06/15/2004 9:21:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster




Kim's Great Game

The U.S. can't seem to stop him. Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him. So the position of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il looks stronger than ever

By Anthony Spaeth

Posted Monday, June 14, 2004; 20:00 HKT
Lee Myong Sok grew up in the town of Dongducheon, just 20 km south of Korea's Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), the grotesquely fortified no-man's-land rimmed with razor wire, heavy military hardware and tens of thousands of soldiers. When he was a boy, Lee lived on "army-base stew": leftover meals from U.S. military canteens, which he would throw into a pot with cabbage and water after discarding the stray cigarette butts. Today, as an operator of a bar in which Russian girls serve the drinks, Lee is still living off the American troops who serve as a "trip wire": if North Korea attacks, these soldiers will come under attack, guaranteeing U.S. involvement in the conflict. But now Lee is deeply upset at the news that Washington wants to pull out 12,500 soldiers, or one-third of the American armed presence in Korea, after 50 years of peacekeeping. The plan is to remove all the troops now stationed on the front line. "This is devastating," says Lee. Fifteen of Dongducheon's leaders shaved their heads last week and went to Seoul to hoist a protest banner outside the National Assembly building. The banner was written in their own blood.

For the elders of Dongducheon, the departure of American soldiers is a pocketbook issue: the town survives by providing Yankee grunts with Pringles, Budweiser and raunchy nighttime entertainment. For the rest of the region, it's something far more significant: another indication that the status quo on the Korean peninsula for more than half a century, written in the blood of the Korean War's more than 2.5 million victims, is rapidly evolving. North Korea is no longer the region's pariah, a hermetically sealed place with whose leaders no others wanted to deal. On the contrary, South Korea is now dominated by a leftist-nationalist President and a political party whose members often see the North as a potential friend or partner, and only sometimes as an enemy that vows to invade and conquer them in a "sea of fire." (The two countries are still technically at war.) Last week, Japan's Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi gave an astonishingly positive account of his recent meeting with North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Il, saying that "I personally felt that North Korea was interested in moving forward in a positive way." (See following story.) Beijing said last week that it did not share Washington's assessment of the north's nuclear programs. These changes in attitude toward Pyongyang are being played out against the backdrop of a revised American military posture on the peninsula and strains in the U.S.-South Korea alliance. Echoing the famous complaint about Washington's China policy in the late 1940s, South Korean conservatives are already starting to ask: "Who lost the U.S.?"

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; appeasement; bush; kimjongil; leftist; nationalist; nkorea; northkorea; nukes; skorea; usfk

1 posted on 06/15/2004 9:21:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; nuconvert; gandalftb; Boot Hill; eastforker

Ping!


2 posted on 06/15/2004 9:22:39 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; Rockpile; SevenofNine; DoctorMichael

Ping!


3 posted on 06/15/2004 9:23:16 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Kim Jong-Il loves American movies and would LOVE to be a movie maker here in the USA. Why don't we offer him $100,000,000 venture capital to set up his own movie studio and an estate in Hollywood so he can cruise with the rest of the Hollyweirdos. The condition would be that he give up power in North Korea. I think he'd go for it.


4 posted on 06/15/2004 9:24:23 PM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
Re #4

I thought of something similar. Give Kim Jong-il the exclusive control of Pyongyang, and make it an East Asian version of Las Vegas & Hollywood rolled up together.

Gambling, showgirls, movies, (and prostitution). It is a Kim Jong-il kind of world.

5 posted on 06/15/2004 9:28:40 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him"

Is that true?

How could anyone not caught in '1984' style nightmare LOVE kim?

6 posted on 06/15/2004 9:30:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


7 posted on 06/15/2004 9:33:25 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: xrp
I think he'd go for it.

,,, you know, he's one whacko guy. He lets his people starve to death and keeps feeding his hairdresser. How could anyone hope to last anywhere with a hairdo that bad? Hollywood needs this guy right now, more than they know.

8 posted on 06/15/2004 9:35:12 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: BenLurkin
"Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him"

- Is that true? How could anyone not caught in '1984' style nightmare LOVE kim?

Maybe the reporter is just projecting. The reporter doesn't know whether he loves him or hates him.

9 posted on 06/15/2004 9:35:20 PM PDT by bluefish (Disclaimer for Pukin: I do not believe Freepers should die for arguing with me.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The U.S. can't seem to stop him. Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him. So the position of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il looks stronger than ever




Anthony Spaeth: "I come to praise dictator Kim Jong Il, not to bury him."

(Apologies to Mr. Shakespeare)


10 posted on 06/15/2004 9:40:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: BenLurkin

Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him"

Is that true?

How could anyone not caught in '1984' style nightmare LOVE kim?


TIME has long been known for writing its articles for eighth-graders. Recently its articles appear to have been written BY eighth-graders.


11 posted on 06/15/2004 9:42:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: xrp; All

Wait a minute I think I saw that episode on Comedy Central Kid Noterious AM I RIGHT

You know Robert Evans animated show


12 posted on 06/15/2004 9:45:53 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; ALOHA RONNIE; Squantos
Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him.

Isn't that really what Time's editors think?

Fifteen of Dongducheon's leaders shaved their heads last week and went to Seoul to hoist a protest banner outside the National Assembly building. The banner was written in their own blood.

They're evidently protesting the pullout because they'll lose business when the Americans leave. They also seem to want compensation for lost business during 50 years of American troop presence. I can't figure out what's on their minds.

Sorry for the questionable taste, but there's evidently graffiti near by featuring a bearded biker saluting Jane Fonda. "LEST WE FORGET."

13 posted on 06/15/2004 9:50:53 PM PDT by risk (Have a good time. You are in the safest bar in Korea.)
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To: risk
Re #13

These clowns in Time used to claim in 80's that Soviet Union would last for a long time, and Soviet's new charm offensive was undercutting U.S. efforts.

To these guys, any appearance of stalemate on N. Korean nukes is the opportunity to padd up Kim Jong-il's stature.

14 posted on 06/15/2004 9:57:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: risk

Oh dats a keeper !..........Thanks !

Stay safe !


15 posted on 06/15/2004 10:29:31 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

N.Korea facts:
capitol: Pyongyang

size: a little larger than Tennessee

religion: official state religion: Juche, which teaches that human beings are the masters of everything. Kim Jong Il has more than 1,200 titles, including, "The Eternal Sun" and "The Guardian Deity of the Planet".

social groups:The government puts citizens into groups . People in favor with the government are allowed to live in the capitol where the government gives people food, medical care and other help. The government puts everyone else in these other groups: "unstable" and "hostile".

Unstable group members have fewer rights and get less food. They can't go to the capitol without permission. Hostile group members have no rights. They are given the hardest, most dangerous jobs. If people are suspected of not agreeing with the government, they are placed in the unstable or hostile groups.

Still others are called "non-humans". They are placed in prison camps and treated like animals. Thousands of Christians are among the "non-humans" in the camps; they are there because they will not deny Christ.

source: Link International, student publication of Voice of the Martyrs.


16 posted on 06/15/2004 11:10:39 PM PDT by Gal.5:1 (keep standing firm)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
“Why is this man smiling?”

It is illogical to try to make sense of the facial expressions of psychopaths.

--Boot Hill

17 posted on 06/16/2004 1:19:53 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Taglines say it all.

Thanks again.

18 posted on 06/16/2004 3:33:03 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster

Speaking of the final destination of those eight new bombs, the future is an enigma, isn't it? We live in interesting times.


19 posted on 06/16/2004 3:37:38 AM PDT by risk
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To: humblegunner
I'm just finding all kinds of stuff for you today.

Any minute now, I expect to see a nice, juicy talk radio story for ya...

20 posted on 06/16/2004 3:39:58 AM PDT by Allegra (This dog bite me)
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To: SevenofNine

I hardly ever watch any TV.


21 posted on 06/16/2004 5:49:15 AM PDT by xrp
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To: BenLurkin
The U.S. can't seem to stop him. Asia doesn't know if it loves or hates him.

The truth is Anthony Spaeth loves Kimbo. How the hech can this hack writer think he can speak for 3 billion people (all of Asia)?
22 posted on 06/16/2004 7:09:57 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Park Geun Byung, a teacher at Song Chun elementary school in Seoul, uses a storybook that instructs his fourth-grade class in the tale of an evil dragon that prevents a Romeo and Juliet on either side of a river from marrying. The river is plainly the DMZ. The evil dragon is meant to represent the U.S. Park is a believer in what he calls "unification education." "Teachers," he adds, "don't have to be neutral

if even half of the S. Koreans feel this way, I say let 'em go.

23 posted on 06/16/2004 9:29:58 AM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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