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9/11 panel: No evidence of al-Qaida, Iraq link
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/16/03 | Hope Yen - AP

Posted on 06/16/2004 8:58:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) - Bluntly contradicting the Bush administration, the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks reported Wednesday there was "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaida target the United States.

In a chilling report that sketched the history of Osama bin Laden's network, the commission said his far-flung training camps were "apparently quite good." Terrorists-to-be were encouraged to "think creatively about ways to commit mass murder," it added.

Bin Laden made overtures to Saddam for assistance, the commission said in the staff report, as he did with leaders in Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan and elsewhere as he sought to build an Islamic army.

While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

The Bush administration has long claimed links between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, and cited them as one reason for last year's invasion of Iraq.

On Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney said in a speech that the Iraqi dictator "had long established ties with al-Qaida."

The bipartisan commission issued its findings as it embarked on two days of public hearings into the worst terrorist attacks in American history.

The panel intends to issue a final report in July on the hijackings on Sept. 11, 2001 that killed nearly 3,000, destroyed the World Trade Centers in New York and damaged the Pentagon outside Washington. A fourth plane commandeered by terrorists crashed in the countryside in Pennsylvania.

The staff report pieced together information on the development of bin Laden's network, from the far-flung training camps in Afghanistan and elsewhere, to funding from "well-placed financial facilitators and diversions of funds from Islamic charities."

Reports that bin Laden had a huge personal fortune to finance acts of terror are overstated, the report said.

The description of the training camp operations contained elements of faint, grudging praise.

"A worldwide jihad needed terrorists who could bomb embassies or hijack airliners, but it also needed foot soldiers for the Taliban in its war against the Northern Alliance, and guerrillas who could shoot down Russian helicopters in Chechnya or ambush Indian units in Kashmir," it said.

According to one unnamed senior al-Qaida associate, various ideas were floated by mujahadeen in Afghanistan, the commission said. The options included taking over a launcher and forcing Russian scientists to fire a nuclear missile at the United States, mounting mustard gas or cyanide attacks against Jewish areas in Iraq or releasing poison gas into the air conditioning system of a targeted building.

"Last but not least, hijacking an aircraft and crashing it into an airport or nearby city," it said.

The Iraq connection long suggested by administration officials gained no currency in the report.

"Bin Laden is said to have requested space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded," the report said. "There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al-Qaida also occurred" after bin Laden moved his operations to Afghanistan in 1996, "but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship," it said.

"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

In a separate report, the commission staff said that senior al-Qaida planner Khalid Shaihk Mohammed initially proposed a Sept. 11 attack involving 10 planes. An expanded target list included the CIA and FBI headquarters, unidentified nuclear plants and tall buildings in California and Washington state.

That ambitious plan was rejected by bin Laden, who ultimately approved a scaled-back mission involving four planes, the report said. Mohammed wanted more hijackers for those planes - 25 or 26, instead of 19.

The commission has identified at least 10 al-Qaida operatives who were to participate but could not take part for reasons including visa problems and suspicion by officials at airports in the United States and overseas.

From a seamless operation, the report portrays a plot riven by internal dissent, including disagreement over whether to target the White House or the Capitol that was apparently never resolved prior to the attacks. Bin Laden also had to overcome opposition to attacking the United States from Mullah Omar, leader of the former Taliban regime, who was under pressure from Pakistan to keep al-Qaida confined.

The United States toppled the regime in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, but Omar has eluded capture, as has al-Qaida.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; 911panel; alqaedaandiraq; alqaida; gorelick; iraq; joke; link; nocredibility; noevidence

1 posted on 06/16/2004 8:58:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

LOL!

2 posted on 06/16/2004 9:00:11 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: NormsRevenge
Remember Salman Pak!
3 posted on 06/16/2004 9:00:27 AM PDT by Steven W.
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FR Search Results for the thread's title..

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4 posted on 06/16/2004 9:00:58 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... In Memoriam Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: NormsRevenge
While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

What the.....??!!

Oh, I get it--it depends on the definition of "collaborative relationship", i.e. there's no evidence that Saddam Hussein engaged in oral sex with Osama bin Laden.

5 posted on 06/16/2004 9:02:48 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I say we should now create a commission to investigate the 9/11 commission.


6 posted on 06/16/2004 9:03:26 AM PDT by Arpege92 (Republicans believe everyday is the 4th of July, Democrats believe everyday is April 15th - Gipper)
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To: Arpege92
I say we should now create a commission to investigate the 9/11 commission.

How DARE you question their patriotism!!!!

8 posted on 06/16/2004 9:05:49 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Uh, huh. Yeah. Ok.

What about this...

The Definitive Link List - Iraq-Al Qaeda Connections
Collected  

1993

Saddam's Fingerprints on NY Bombing
June 28, 1993
The Wall Street Journal
Reproduced Online: http://www.mondopolitico.com/discus/messages/441/1207.html?1070677043

1998

BIN LADEN, ATEF INDICTED IN U.S. FEDERAL COURT FOR AFRICAN BOMBINGS
November 4, 1998
http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/98110402.htm

"In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the Government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq," the indictment said. "

Bin Laden and Iraq Agreed to Cooperate on Weapons Development
New York Times
November 5, 1998
Section A; Page 1; Column 2; Foreign Desk
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10910F73D5A0C768CDDA80994D0494D81

1999

Western Nightmare
February 6, 1999
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,798270,00.html

Saddam's link to OBL
February 6, 1999
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html

2001

Gunning for Saddam
October 18, 2001
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/mylroie.html

Saddam Controlled the Camp: The Iraqi Connection
November 11, 2001
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/archive/article/0,,4296646,00.html

2002

Iraq's Tie to Al-Qaeda Terrorists, Airline Hijackings
January 7, 2002
Aviation Week & Space Technology
Reproduced Online: http://www.ourjerusalem.com/news/story/news20030315.html

Lawsuit: Iraq Involved In 9/11 Conspiracy
September 5, 2002
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml

2003

The Unkwown - The C.I.A. and the Pentagon take another look at Al Qaeda and Iraq
February 3, 2003
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030210fa_fact

Al Qaeda, Iraq partners in terror -- Powell
February 5, 2003
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.alqaeda.links/

The proof that Saddam worked with bin Laden
April 27, 2003
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F04%2F27%2Fwalq27.xml

Oil for Food Sales Seen As Iraq Tie To Al Qaeda
June 20, 2003
http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.06.20/news2.html

Document links Saddam, bin Laden
June 25, 2003
http://tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml?Element_ID=34908297

The AQ connection
July 11, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/889jldct.asp

Growing Evidence of a Saddam - al-Qaeda Link
July 15, 2003
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8927

Saddam's al Qaeda Connection
September 1-8, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/033jgqyi.asp

Memo shows Iraq, Iran tried to contact bin Laden
September 12, 2003
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030912-012437-3992r.htm

No Question About It: Saddam and the terrorists
September 19, 2003
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp

Iraq: A Federal Judge's Point of View
September 20, 2003
http://globalspecops.com/view.html

Iraq and al Qaeda - There's more evidence of a link than the critics admit
Septembe 23, 2003
http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004046

The Iraq -- Al Qaeda Connections
September 25, 2003
http://www.techcentralstation.com/092503F.html

Saddam's Terror Ties - Iraq-war critics ignore ample evidence
October 21, 2003
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200310210934.asp

Osama's Best Friend
November 3, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/296fmttq.asp

Case Closed
November 24, 2003
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp

The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties
December 29, 2003-January 5, 2004
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/527uwabl.asp

2004

Tape Shows General Clark Linking Iraq and Al Qaeda
January 12, 2004
New York Times
Reproduced Online: http://www.ndtceda.com/archives/200401/0142.html

Saddam's Ambassador to al-Qaeda
February 23, 2004
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12292

Interview with James Woolsey
March 23, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0403/23/ldt.00.html (scroll down for interview with Lou Dobbs and James Woolsey)

Al Qaeda's Poison Gas
April 29, 2004
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005016

The Connection
June 7, 2004
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/152lndzv.asp?ZoomFont=YES


9 posted on 06/16/2004 9:05:51 AM PDT by mattdono (To President Reagan: Rest now. Look in on us. Enjoy eternity. I'll see you again some day.)
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To: mattdono

I guess they can't read too well.


10 posted on 06/16/2004 9:06:22 AM PDT by mattdono (To President Reagan: Rest now. Look in on us. Enjoy eternity. I'll see you again some day.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

When did THEY testify before the commission ?

11 posted on 06/16/2004 9:07:12 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mattdono

Yep....they stumble over words that have five or more letters in them.


12 posted on 06/16/2004 9:07:57 AM PDT by Arpege92 (Republicans believe everyday is the 4th of July, Democrats believe everyday is April 15th - Gipper)
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To: mattdono

BTTT


13 posted on 06/16/2004 9:07:57 AM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: NormsRevenge
=========== Documents linking Atta, Saddam, Nidal, bin Ladin ===========

Handwritten letter dated Feb. 19, 1998 linking bin Laden and Saddam Hussein
discussing arrival of a secret envoy sent by bin Laden to Iraq.
The signature beneath the letter is a codename, "MDA" - the Mukhabarat.


========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============

Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry
. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found
at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with
leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.


========= Halabja =========

Dead children, previously playing in Halabja
Victims of Saddams' WMD in March 1988.


Also found in Iraq:

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service
that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials
working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home,
one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF),
and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in
resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission
that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles,
a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists
have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -
well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed
Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology
related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles,
and other prohibited military equipment.


Still missing based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999,
when the UN inspectors left Iraq in 1998, they had been unable to account for:

• up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent;

• up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approximately 300 tons which,
in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX;

• growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce
over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admitted to UN inspectors to having manufactured);

• over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents;

• 20 al-Hussein missles with a range of 650 km, in violation
of UN Security Council Resolution 687 (Iraq had told UNSCOM that it filled these warheads with anthrax and botulinum);

• 2,850 tons of mustard gas, 210 tons of tabun, and 795 tons of sarin and cyclosarin;

• development of the Al-Samoud short-range missle (which had the capability to fly beyond the 150 km allowed by UN resolutions)


Who's Who on the 9/11 "Independent" Commission


"According to a 1998 Senate testimony of former CIA director James
Woolsey, powerful financier Khalid bin Mahfouz’ younger sister is
married to Osama bin Laden,. (US Senate, Senate Judiciary
Committee, Federal News Service, 3 Sept. 1998, See also Wayne
Madsen, Questionable Ties, In These Times,12 Nov. 2001 )
Bin Mahfouz is suspected to have funneled millions of dollars to the Al
Qaeda network.(See Tom Flocco, Scoop.co.nz 28 Aug. 2002)
Now, "by sheer coincidence", former New Jersey governor Thomas
Kean, the man chosen by President Bush to lead the 9/11 commission
also has business ties with bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi.
Thomas Kean is a director (and shareholder) of Amerada Hess
Corporation , which is involved in the Hess-Delta joint venture with
Delta Oil of Saudi Arabia (owned by the bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi
clans)...
Now you would think that being a business partner of the brother in
law and alleged financier of "Enemy No. 1" would also be considered a
bona fide "conflict of interest", particularly when your mandate --as
part of the 9/11 Commission's work-- is to investigate "Enemy No. 1".
"(Michel Chossudovsky, New Chairman of 9/11 Commission had
business ties with Osama's Brother in Law,
Centre for Research on Globalization, December 2002 )



Commissioner Kean: "Ms Gorelick is one of the finest members
of the commission and one of the most bipartisan members.
People ought to stay out of our business"


911 Commission Meets


14 posted on 06/16/2004 9:08:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do only what we are meant to do)
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To: NormsRevenge
there was "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaida target the United States.

Of course, the fact that Al-Qaida was in Iraq and being assisted there, has no bearing - they didn't actually get in on the planning.

The same twits who will argue this, will not hesitate to try to sue a gun manufacturer for someone else's crime..

15 posted on 06/16/2004 9:11:03 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: NormsRevenge
Was this within the scope of the commission's mission? I don't think so....
16 posted on 06/16/2004 9:11:16 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: Steven W.

Remember Salman Pak, BUMP!


17 posted on 06/16/2004 9:12:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: All


18 posted on 06/16/2004 9:13:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do only what we are meant to do)
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To: NormsRevenge

Jamie Gore lick has served her purpose for the democrta party. No trail that extends back into the sinkEmperor's administration will be allowed to see the light of public opinion. The commission is a sickening joke.


19 posted on 06/16/2004 9:13:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: NormsRevenge
While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

They evdidence is there if the commission really wanted to look for it

20 posted on 06/16/2004 9:17:57 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... WE LOVED PRESIDENT REAGAN)
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To: prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; mrs tiggywinkle; redlipstick; ..

PING


21 posted on 06/16/2004 9:19:55 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... WE LOVED PRESIDENT REAGAN)
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To: Baynative
Lol.

If this is the same commission that refused to bring Madame Gorelick to the stand to testify despite her clear involvement in the creation of 'the wall' that impeded our protection, then any finding they bring forth is worthless. They've blatantly and deliberately played CYA for her at our expense and at the expense of the truth. Which is not condusive to preventing a repeat of 9/11.

That tells me they are just show ponies. They're not after the truth. So you can deduce that nothing they bring forward in their findings is truthful. Just a bunch of BS. Another waste of time and money ........Trully, where their real talent lies.

22 posted on 06/16/2004 9:20:26 AM PDT by softengine (Life is like a roll of toilet paper.....The closer you get to the end, the faster it goes.)
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To: softengine

Salman Pak (Aviation Weekly)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/865435/posts

Another freeper resource - list of links between OBL and Saddam:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/838309/posts

Saddam/911 Link (FrontPage Magazine, Laurie Mylroie, May 2004):
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133317/posts


Bush says Zarqawi killed Berg, cites Saddam ties (Reuters, May 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136076/posts

The Connections (May 2004, The Weekly Standard)
New Information:http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1144123/posts?page=11

Saddam's role in 9/11. (Freeper book, May 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1144699/posts?page=5

Entire link and Post #5 - Clinton mentioned how AQ was developing a relationship with Iraq.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145787/posts

The House of Representatives read into the congressional record the ties that Saddam had to Osama bin Laden (read down and open links in the record): June 2004
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/B?r108:@FIELD(FLD003+h)+@FIELD(DDATE+20040601)


Exploring the links between 9/11 and Iraq (Richard Miniter, June 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1146319/posts?page=1


The Terrorist behind 9/11 was trained by Saddam (The Telegraph, 12/03)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1146356/posts?page=1

New Iraqi Chief Links 9/11 to Saddam (June 2004, NewsMax)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1146579/posts?page=1


Increasing evidence of Saddam's ties to 9/11 and AQ (National Review, June 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146984/posts

Pre Bush Timeline of Saddam/OBL Ties (Freeper research):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1152923/posts?page=1

Cheney claims Iraq/AQ connections (June 2004)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1153781/posts?page=20


23 posted on 06/16/2004 9:23:19 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

Hey if they don't have the same union card and aren't getting a paystub directly from OBL then they can't be working together. Oh yeah, and oral sex isn't sex, OJ was innocent and Terezzzzza Tootsie Kerry is sexy.

24 posted on 06/16/2004 9:25:22 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: NormsRevenge

Al Qaeda is Saddam's 527 - nope they don't work together.


25 posted on 06/16/2004 9:27:23 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: NormsRevenge

Al Qaeda is Saddam's 527 - nope they don't work together.


26 posted on 06/16/2004 9:27:26 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Izzy Dunne
"When did THEY (senior Ben Laden associates) testify before the commission?"

Maybe they were referring to some of the Commission members themselves? /sarcasm

27 posted on 06/16/2004 9:37:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: NormsRevenge
"Two senior bin Laden associates have adamantly denied that any ties existed between al-Qaida and Iraq," the report said.

Oh - well then - there you have it. Our 9/11 Commission actually quoting terrorists to validate their conclusion. What the hell is going on here?

28 posted on 06/16/2004 9:38:05 AM PDT by capydick ("There's no question I'm an idealist, which is another way of saying I am an American.")
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To: Mo1

I'm not at all surprised. There's little that makes me want to kick the ever-livin' snot out of something or somebody like this farce of a 9-11 Circus does.

I have learned to pay The Circus no mind. It doesn't deserve one iota of attention or consideration of it's findings. And the public knows it.

What astounds me is what in the world these fools think they will be able to do after this farce is over? Who will hire them, who will trust them, who will believe them? Maybe the DNC, I suppose.

Prairie


29 posted on 06/16/2004 10:18:53 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Proud in my refusal to purchase a copy of "My Lie".)
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To: NormsRevenge
If brains = explosives the collective bang from the 911 commission members wouldn't knock the pants off a gnat.

What a bunch of losers especially that RHINO John "stab them in the back" Warner.

30 posted on 06/16/2004 10:21:33 AM PDT by Militiaman7 (Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
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To: Arpege92

From here on out, they should be designated the "9/11 Warren Commission"


31 posted on 06/16/2004 10:23:40 AM PDT by BSunday (RWR - America is a better place because of you.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The entire "9/11" Commission report will sit gathering dust on the shelf right next to another "truthful, factual, and unbiased" report called the Warren Commission Report on the Assassination of John F. Kennedy".

Ah well, . . . and so it goes!


32 posted on 06/16/2004 10:25:53 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: mattdono
OK, but other than that what have you got?

LOL!

33 posted on 06/16/2004 10:31:41 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: prairiebreeze
What astounds me is what in the world these fools think they will be able to do after this farce is over? Who will hire them, who will trust them, who will believe them? Maybe the DNC, I suppose.

Once all the truth is out .. these people will be outed for the fools they are

You can bet there will be a number of folks who will have a thing to say about this report

34 posted on 06/16/2004 10:36:44 AM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... WE LOVED PRESIDENT REAGAN)
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To: Mo1
Chairman of the National Commission on Terrorists Attacks Upon the United States (9-11 Commission) Gov. Thomas Kean looks on at the beginning of their final two-day hearing at the National Transportation Security Board conference center in Washington, June 16, 2004. Al Qaeda has changed drastically since the Sept. 11 attacks but it will keep trying to strike in the United States to inflict mass casualties, the panel investigating the 2001 hijackings said on Wednesday.  (Larry Downing/Reuters)

Chairman of the National Commission on Terrorists Attacks Upon the United States (9-11 Commission) Gov. Thomas Kean looks on at the beginning of their final two-day hearing at the National Transportation Security Board conference center in Washington, June 16, 2004. Al Qaeda has changed drastically since the Sept. 11 attacks but it will keep trying to strike in the United States to inflict mass casualties, the panel investigating the 2001 hijackings said on Wednesday. (Larry Downing/Reuters)

35 posted on 06/16/2004 10:38:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... In Memoriam Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: NormsRevenge
The 9-11 panel members working behind the scenes:


36 posted on 06/16/2004 10:42:07 AM PDT by hattend
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Yahoo is carrying article title as "9/11 Panel Disputes Iraq Link to Attacks"..

hmmmmm?

as in, there is some evidence but ... we choose not to accept or acknowledge it.. or ??

37 posted on 06/16/2004 10:44:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... In Memoriam Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: Diogenesis
Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band, the symbol for chemical weaponry. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.

Don't be confused with the green band. This is not an international marking for a chemical munition. The warhead is a standard high explosive fitted to a Soviet air-to surface missile. The initial reading was conducted with basic meter equipment which gave a low initial false reading. This was fully admitted later by the US military and the warhead was found to be conventional high explosive.

Prelim nerve warhead test negative

39 posted on 06/16/2004 12:36:15 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: NormsRevenge

The 9-11 panel is one big joke and all the so called members of the committee are an even BIGGER joke especially Jamie Gorelick. They should fold their tent and go home.

They have shown their true colors not to mention their character or lack thereof AND... they have proven themselves ignorant and shallow little weasels trying to get their 15 minutes of fame.

Whatever they have to say about 9-11 now is irrelevant. Totally irrelevant.


40 posted on 06/16/2004 12:58:46 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: hattend

Tell the children the game is over - and they LOST!!


41 posted on 06/16/2004 7:34:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow..the incredible gall..these highly paid lawyers in washington..telling the world that they could not find evidence of a connection...yes..I am sure they went to the afghanistan/pakistan border and questioned obl and then went to the secret place of saddam..no one believes that saddam had anything to do with 9/11..but that he was an uninterested party with obl just begs credulity..


42 posted on 06/16/2004 8:36:52 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: NormsRevenge
While Saddam dispatched a senior Iraqi intelligence official to Sudan to meet with bin Laden in 1994, the commission said it had not turned up evidence of a "collaborative relationship."

So, yes, they collaborated, but there is no evidence of collaboration.

43 posted on 06/16/2004 8:55:37 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: NormsRevenge
******Alert******

I have uncovered what I think may be behind this twisted story. I read the 2 reports released by the Commission Wednesday and neither included the phrase "no credible evidence" as used in the AP report.

Fact: The 9-11 Commission released two staff reports on Wednesday June 16 (Staff Reports No. 15 and 16). Staff Report No. 16 states: "We have examined the allegation that Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague on April 9. Based on the evidence available — including investigation by Czech and U.S. authorities plus detainee reporting — we do not believe that such a meeting occurred."

Fact: On Thursday June 17, 2004, an Associated Press article ran with the headline "Panel finds no al-Qaida link to Iraq" The article included the following statement: "the commission investigating the 9/11 attacks reported Wednesday [June 16] that there was 'no credible evidence' that Saddam Hussein had ties with al-Qaida."

Fact: Searching all documents released by the commission to date, the only statement ever released by the commission that uses the phrase "no credible evidence" is a statement given by a witness testifying on July 9, 2003 in the Third Hearing. The witness stated: "There is no credible evidence of the Iraqi dictator Saddam or the Baghdad regime sponsoring Al Qaeda."

So you see, AP ran this story claiming the commission stated "no link" in their report released Wednesday, when in fact, the "no link" statement is pulled from an old witness statement. It is picked up by papers all over the US and reported as gospel.

Where is the outrage?

I just finished a letter to the editor of my local paper expressing my outrage and canceled my subscription.
44 posted on 06/18/2004 9:04:45 PM PDT by NERep
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I need to correct one statement of Fact I made above. Staff Report No. 15 released Wednesday does include the phrase "no credible evidence." However, in full context, it states: "We have no credible evidence that Iraq and Al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States." This is still far different than saying there is no evidence linking Iraq and Al Qaeda.


45 posted on 06/19/2004 9:43:13 AM PDT by NERep
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