Oh, no, I'd better cease and desist with using this image
since it may imply that Franklin Roosevelt endorses
Posted on 06/16/2004 11:53:30 AM PDT by areafiftyone
WASHINGTON -- Ronald Reagan's family is criticizing the use of the late president's image in a conservative political ad endorsing President George W. Bush.
The ad comparing Bush's war on terror with Reagan's battle against communism is being run by the conservative interest groupClub for Growth starting Wednesday. It shows footage of Reagan at the Berlin Wall, and Bush at ground zero.
The ad also said Democratic presidential contender John Kerry was "wrong then, wrong now" on national security.
A Reagan family spokeswoman said the group does not have permission to use Reagan's image in the ad because doing so implies his endorsement.
Club for Growth said it wants to show how similar Bush and Reagan have been "in terms of fighting evil." A Kerry spokesman said it's "pretty sad" that Bush supporters are already politicizing the nation's farewell to Reagan.
Sorry, but Reagan belongs to all of us now. If I want to use his or JFK's image in an ad I will do it and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
If my opponent want's to use Carter or Clinton's image in an ad, that's fine too.
I think what this brouhaha is all about is that we simply have much better choices than they do. Reagan's greatness is obvious and Republican, and JFK's ideas were very very Republican by today's standards.
I agree.
Has there been a single ad released by the Bush campaign that someone on the left (and their media cohorts) hasn't complained about? It's so overdone that it's getting almost humorous.
(and there is nothing Ronnie Jr can do to stop me)
I agree completely. That may have been Ron and Patti's dad up there at the Berlin Wall, but he was there representing you and me. We were paying for him to be there saying what he was saying. I'm sure HE would have agreed with me.
Ron and Patti, please go get jobs, have babies, raise your families, but stay out of our faces.
That affection can be taken back in a heartbeat. Something the Reagan family ought to keep in mind.
We can honor and revere Ronald Reagan and revert to our earlier opinions of his chilren and his wife.
I think this is coming from Ron Reagan Jr's mouth. He was mouthing off last week about Bush using his father's name. I forgot what show he was on. Ron Reagan Jr. is a total liberal idiot who hates Bush. Expect more of it. Ron Reagan is an unabashed Kerry supporter.
Damn, before you know it Ron Jr. and Nancy will be campaigning for Kerry.
Not to be irreverent, but doesn't it go without saying that would be a bit difficult now ?
Just one more proof that Ron and Patti didn't have a clue as to who their dad was.
Sorry, but they don't need your permission to use his image.
After all, he is a public figure.
I think it's tacky.
The man is barely dead yet and they are trying to exploit him.
Which network does Ron Reagan work for? Is it not NBC?
This is proof that his ungrateful children would never have attended the funeral if it was not on TV. (or kerry attend the viewing unles on TV)
Yes exactly. And he is probably miffed because Bush actually stood up to his eulogy comments with something about not removing the speck in your brother's eye when there is a log in your own. LOL!
Do they really think that Ronald Reagan would have endorsed John Kerry and NOT George Bush? If Reagan were alive and well he would be at Headlining The Republican Convention in August and they DAM WELL know it!
He is an analyst for MSNBC.
Better to call him Little Ronnie, both for accuracy and to diminish him as the 46-year-old adult he is supposed to be. His name is Ronald Prescott Reagan. His father's name is Ronald Wilson Reagan. Little Ronnie is not a junior, but he is a very little person.
Ron Jr. is a liberal. He opposes Bush and even gave a backhanded slap to Bush in his eulogy at Reagan's funeral.
I disagree with using RR in anything.
GWB is no Ronald Reagan.
plus, with Ron Jr. already firing a first salvo, you will just stir up the Reagan children to fight back...who needs that.
it is interesting how they never say Nancy or Michael, just an anonymous "family".
Perhaps Ron should quit his job so he can stop being a chicken feces source.
I will call him Jr because it also show disrespect towards him. Like libs that call W "junior" when he isnt one.
Ron Reagan works with Animal Planet...he does the Kennel Club Dog Shows....LOL!
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To be "proper" Nancy Reagan should have been asked for permission being this close to President Reagan's death.
It is called "GOOD MANNERS" and has nothing to do with leftists sounding 'rights' to publish since he's a public figure, etc etc etc.
Reagan would have never approved of using another recently deceased's picture or words without approval first - he was a GENTLEMAN!
True. They give themselves away for the dummies and gullible twerps they are!
During the press interview with Karzai yesterday Bush responded to that. A reporter asked him about religion. It was an excellent press conference and it was like bush beating back rabid dogs. It was VERY coool.
Reagan's cold war was fought on our dime. It is public domain.
Shove it, Junior. (in a sean connery voice)
I heard that too. He accepted the praise of his father, and rejected the sentiment behind it. How confused they are!
Nancy Reagan is very good friends with Mike Wallace and Barbara Walters. We cannot put all the blame on Ron as my guess is that Nancy is being exploited by many people with agendas that are the antithesis of all Ronald Reagan espoused.
No it doesn't, no more than using George Washington's image in an ad implies his endorsement.
I'm sorry if someone in the family is upset by this, but without Reagan himself speaking against the use of the image, it's a reasonable thing to do.
Shalom.
The article says spockes woman. Pati?
If the left had their way they would rewrite history to be reagan won the cold war by surrendering to Gorbachev and promised more communiste reforms in the USA.
Understood. Anything to show disrespect for that arrogant pr*k. Little Ronnie was the only person throughout the entire funerary week for RWR who seemed to be enjoying himself. Too bad he didn't change his name like his sister did.
Not only should they have asked Nancy (forget Patti and Ron), they should have asked Bush.
Very well put. As hard as I tried, I just could not feel bad for Patti. I can not put my finger on it, but it seemed like she was just going through the motions. No real emotion about the situation.
I found it interesting, the natural children of Ronald has no respect for the man. The adopted child, Michael, has a love and loyalty to the Reagan family. He appreciates what they did for him and knows the value of family love. He wasn't born into it, he was blessed enough to be chosen.
I like Club for Growth, but this was stupid. The timing was bad for one. Unless Nancy gave permission(which I believe is proper protocol in this), it leaves a big opening.
Ron Jr is a leftist. So is Patti. They will obviously fire shots since it's family business to them.
Reagan was a great president. However, Club for Growth should not use Reagan to run on. Bush has his own record. Kerry has his own record. That is what should be run on.
We wouldn't want them to "use" him like one of his family members did during the funeral in California by making a political speech against President Bush. Ron, shut up, it is not about you! Just because you and Patti made sure that you were in all the photos while Michael was seen far behind doesn't mean that you get to dictate to the rest of the country. You may be your mother's favorite but you aren't to the rest of the country. I'm sure since you and Patti (the stripper) were so kind to your father while he was alive you are really worried about his image now. That is unless it was used by John Kerry or another of the liberal elite candidates that you favor.
A lot of posts here seem to miss your point, that it IS tacky to use the image of a guy only a few days in the ground. Many point out that he is a public figure and thus his image is fair play, which may be technically correct in that the family has no say. They seem to miss that many people (including myself) think it is tasteless.
If it were clinton doing this with a similar popular democrat politican (I know, there are none anymore) 5 days in the grave, would he be supported as such? If clinton/gore had used JFK Jr's imagine under similar circumstances and timing, would it have been ok with people here?
Barbara Walters implied that Nancy REagan never agreed with her husband's politics.
I will bet real money the Wallaces and the Walters will be working overtime to make Nancy appear to have supported Ronald W. Reagan just because he was her mere husband.
Whoever owns the news film clips calls this shot, not the family. President Reagan was a public figure. I hope we don't get into another Martin Luther King, Jr. family "business" by charging for every little comment about President Reagan. The family should do what the Gipper would have wanted: Keep Democrats out of office.
Reagan Berlin Wall Speech is "Public Domain" and not the property of RR's family. It was given in a very public forum in his role as President of the United States and therefore belongs to the people.
Bush has done the same with Kerry's "I voted for it before I voted against it". Both are public domain. Just as Michael Moore's use of the film of GW in the classroom.
Frankly, Club for Growth has become noise and confusion signifying nothing. Very few, if any successes, lots of publicity for itself tho.
How true. You will notice that the two children that Jane/ Wyman had or adopted with Ronald Reagan were mentally sound and both were blessed with great character. Me thinks it might be MaMa Dearest (Nancy).
I tend to agree. Not a word had to be said. Most Americans got the similarities (and differences) between Bush and Reagan by watching the events last week and hearing about the challenges that Reagan faced.
Having said that, I think it was a foot race. Make no mistake about it, just as the partisan media sought to recast "all" of the 9/11 families as opposing Bush by using a small minority of 9/11 families (the Jersey Bimbs), they will seek to recast Reagan through select members of his family. How long before Lil Ronnie and Patti start coming out with "before he died, our father expressed regret that he had not stayed in the Democrat Party and expressed his outrage for the illegal war Bush started with Iraq."
This could get pretty ugly as I am fairly sure there is another one of Ronald Wilson Reagan's children out there, albeit adopted, who will not sit still for this.
little liberal ronnie,
If Ronald Reagan were alive today and healthy enough, he would be on the campaign trail for GWB.
I am positive of this.
Ron Reagan Jr. needs to go back to dancing in his underwear, and get out of politics.
The "Reagan Family" (whatever that is) can kiss my butt. Who gives a damn what they think? Ronald Reagan was the people's President. We all know what he stood for, and were he alive and conscious today he would urge all Americans to vote for George W. Bush. We don't need ultra-leftwingers Ron Jr and Patti to give us permission to use RWR's image, words, or stated beliefs in any ad.
The Kennedys tried to do this when Club for Growth ran a JFK tax cut ad in 2001. Screw 'em.
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