Posted on 06/17/2004 10:06:43 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
Did have a nice pair of Snail Darters for a while, until the guy who sold them to me went to jail for fraud; did you know that catfish minnows don't even make good bait?
Monterey to Tennesee? Sounds like a good transition to me. Santa Cruz has become the black heart of the beast, and it is difficult living here most of the time.
Made one trip into Santa Cruz in about 67; saw this lady fishing off the two-lane highway bridge in the bay, she looked like she just stepped off the Pancake box, bandanna and all - dinner, I guess.
"Snaught"?
Like your knows, you no?
'Snot true!
The guy who wrote that back in 1963 was very prescient.
Just about everything he predicted has come true. And yet the evil empire is dead and the trype it represented is more alive and flourishing here in America than in the old Soviet Union.
However, again, I think you are overreacting to this issue.
Personally, I don't know all that much about the Endangered Spieces Act. I do know government has to be scrutinized to make sure it doesn't exceed its bounds. But NOTHING, NO RIGHT is absolute - NONE of them. All of them are subject to SOME restrictions or we would live in anarchy.
But if we hadn't taken steps in the past to preserve endangered wildlife and prevent habitat destruction, our National Symbol, the bald eagle, would be extinct. Buffalo would be extinct. Bears and wolves would no longer exist - anywhere.
I agree with you about NAFTA, but many good conservatives would say the jobs lost overseas have been replaced here by other jobs and by employing people in other countries they are better able to afford our own exports.
Conservatism and liberalism are not defined by individual litmus tests on signle issues. They are defined by an overall attitude on a multiplicity of varying issues.
Just because I disagree with you in part on this issue doesn't make me a conservative. If I was a liberal I would hunt and own a gun or hate Bill Clinton, or oppose abortion and homosexual marriages or dislike courts which legislate from the bench, or be repelled by revisionist theologians.
But you have to understand how OUR government operates. Lobbyists with money get what they want. So do lobbyists with votes. If they have BOTH, they get even more.
Yes, the radical environmentalists haver a lot of power in Washington. But so do the Construction Unions and Construction lobbies and what is good for the Country and America as a whole should always take precedence, not what an indiviual lobbying group wants.
I read it. I agree with most of it. I fail to see what it has to do with the issue at hand.
Are you maintaining that its totally irrelvant to you if all species of animals disappear except for what we can cook?
Do you want to live in a world of concrete and asphalt and planted city parks?
Do you not want your children to have an opportunity to hunt and fish and hike in a wilderness?
Don't you want some vestige of the the America that Washington, the pilgrims, the Indians, etc, saw left for posterity?
The people who live in large cities, for the most part, do NOT think like conservatives, they think like liberals.
They don't like guns, hunting, and feel the government should be the answer to everybody's problems.
Do you wnat more and more of these people perpetuated in America?
Is THEIR lifestyle what you want to leave as a legacy to your children?
Personally, I would be happier living in 17th Century America and the closer we can get to that ideal the better.
I believe you are exaggeratnig the issue here.
The problems you represent will not rise and fall on the salavation of this one salamander.
There is no argument which can move a closed mind.
Each species of animal contains genetic information, biological secrets which may be of practical use to man. In addition, there is the esthetic appeal of viewing and enjoying them in their own right as a creation of God's.
And salamanders and most living things do serve a function in the complex ecosystem which makes up earth and of which we are all a part.
1. The meaning of the Phrase "to regulate trade" must be sought in the general use of it, in other words in the objects to which the power was generally understood to be applicable, when the Phrase was inserted in the Constn.
2. The power has been understood and used by all commercial & manufacturing Nations as embracing the object of encouraging manufactures. It is believed that not a single exception can be named.
James Madison to Joseph C. Cabell
18 Sept. 1828
I've read more than you Old Profssor, I am a Zoologist by education and a conservative by political philosophy, and I am not aware of doing any shouting on this board on this issue.
The reactions to my postings on this subject sadden rather than enrage me.
Read my posts about Irraq, Kerry, Kennedy, Kean and the liberal left to see my rage.
Here there is only sadness.
I see you are from Tennessee.
I have never been there, but from what I have read, it must resemble in large part the sort of American I would like to see preserved.
If you want to see what I am talking about - visit Hudson COunty or Bergen County New Jersey, or the Charlotte - College Triangle Area of North Carolina, or New York Coty or Baltimore or Boston.
Image a landscape full of nothing but the same monotonous developments, raod way after roadway choaked with an endless stream of constant cars so thick none of them can move.
That's what uncontrolled development has created and its on its way to Tennessee.
As a species, we have but one goal, survival; abandon that and the whole game is over.
"Personally, I would be happier living in 17th Century America and the closer we can get to that ideal the better."
I agree. I ive as close to that model as is possible. Your arguements and 'questions' however, have nothing to do with this or me. If I had my way, I'd do away with cities...they breed confusion and greed. But that's not going to happen. I hope you will continue to study this issue to see what we're really up against. I will continue to be a true conservationist and love and care for the land and all it's creatures as I always have.
Thanks. I'll check it out.
I hate the U.N. (anger not sadness).
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