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http://www.foxnews.com ^ | June 18,2004

Posted on 06/18/2004 10:28:28 AM PDT by TomGuy

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To: NeoDVD

If they aren't Muslim, what are they?


1,301 posted on 06/18/2004 1:41:15 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("Proud to be a Reagan American")
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To: NeoDVD
Don't blame it in Islam, there is a whole world of Muslim people who are completely against all this hatred and disgusting acts of terrorism.

That's why we need to bomb Mecca and show them we mean business. They call off the jihad or Mecca goes --- end of story. The so-called peace lovers will either get the jihad ended or they will understand that we warned them fair and square. Mecca is no more valuable to us than Bagdad. We bombed the cities of the Nazis to get that thing ended.

1,302 posted on 06/18/2004 1:42:01 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
The Saudi family, the police, and most of the populace. recall a few weeks ago the attack in Kobar where the police had the terrorists "surrounded" and they "escaped"? It's a matter of time before the whack-jobs overthrow the Sauds. We better have a good plan lined up (like conquering the southern oil fields within an hour).

The most important comment I have read or heard today.

1,303 posted on 06/18/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by eleni121 (Mt. Rushmore welcomes the Gipper!)
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To: swarthyguy
Covering up the trail back to the Royals.

I guess you mean by that is that you would like to see the Saudi Royal family gone.

If the Saudi Royal family is taken out or leaves on their own accord we will be looking at another Iran just after the fall of the Shah with the exception that they provide 22% of the oil we use. Gas prices will be 5 dollars a gallon or more if this happens. Better sell your stock now if you think this is a good idea. It could also get Kerry elected if it happens soon.

1,304 posted on 06/18/2004 1:43:21 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: SheLion
Was googling ....intel/oil security sites.

Its noted that Jihadi have been trying for years to blow $.... Up!...at this point..Islamic nations have been blocking/interdicting much of the activity.
But for sure..its just so that their cash return from oil/gas investment continues.
They don't seem to give a rip about the moral apsect of the war on terror.
I suspect they cut deals with the Jihadi..just like the nations which face Piracy in the Far East....toss them a bone every now and then....give em a Container ship to rob/hijack.

Death and Extortion......Islam in the 21st.

1,305 posted on 06/18/2004 1:43:28 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: danamco; All
GRAPHIC!!!
Couldn't be more on the money.
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1,306 posted on 06/18/2004 1:43:41 PM PDT by olde north church ("No political will", when a politician who lacks leadership skills blames the citizenry for inaction)
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To: NeoDVD
The people who committed all these crimes are not Muslim, they pretend to be and use GOD as an excuse.

You are dead wrong.

The quran very specifically encourages this particular method to dispatch infidels.

1,307 posted on 06/18/2004 1:43:57 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: NeoDVD

It is not up to you to say whether they are 'authentically' Muslim or not. It is up to them and their fellow religionists. And THEY say that these guys are their heroes - the purest of the pure Islam.

You cannot disagree. Just get used to it. It IS.


1,308 posted on 06/18/2004 1:44:03 PM PDT by Shazolene
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To: Az. Mike

Of course not They Hate the West all the Saudi's want is American Money...They are not a civil democratic country there nomads who have money from Oil...


1,309 posted on 06/18/2004 1:44:08 PM PDT by missyme
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To: NeoDVD
Muslim people are no different then others. Pick up some books and read about it, you'd be surprised.

Stuff it straight up your pious ass, troll. You're the one who's not up to speed.

1,310 posted on 06/18/2004 1:44:59 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: McGruff

Better to pay high prices than to watch Americans beheaded.

That's it? For cheap gas, we tolerate the Saudis.

Man, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!

THe Royals are AQ.


1,311 posted on 06/18/2004 1:45:08 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: McGruff

Better to pay high prices than to watch Americans beheaded.

That's it? For cheap gas, we tolerate the Saudis.

Man, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!

THe Royals are AQ.


1,312 posted on 06/18/2004 1:45:19 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Blzbba
"drag Saddam's head through the streets"

That is the only thing they will understand. We can't deal with them in a way that makes sense to us or impresses us. When you're in a disagreement you must deal with the opposition in terms that are important to their side, not your side. As detestable as it is, we are going to win only when we deal with them like they would deal with us. That's not sinking to their level, it's paying homage to reality in the world of 2004.
1,313 posted on 06/18/2004 1:45:25 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: FITZ

If we can bomb Hiroshima we sure can Bomb Mecca...





1,314 posted on 06/18/2004 1:46:08 PM PDT by missyme
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To: nuggler
World leaders of Islam have indeed expressed outrage - consistently - over the heinous acts committed by alleged Muslims.

You are either a muslim or a fool. The world leaders are two-faced! Saying one thing to the West and an other thing to their followers. Well documented.

1,315 posted on 06/18/2004 1:46:21 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Blzbba; Mr. Mojo

Big difference.

Christian Germans who supported Hitler did so for nationalism and it had little or nothing to do with their Christianity, in fact Hitler was a bit of a pan-Odinist and only tolerated what Christianity he had to for political expediency.

Muslims who support Bin Laden do so out of religious fervor and it is all about Islam and restoring Islam to it's rightful place as the dominant culture in the world (in their opinion).

Therefore your feeble try at equivocating Christian citizens in Nazi Germany with the Islamic fanatics and their support for Bin Laden has failed.
Not to mention have you read the Koran lately (I have)? In my view the moderate Muslims are apostate according to their "scripture" hence once again any attempt to link Christianity and Islam as creeds of violence is once again WRONG.

Perhaps you'd like to try to equivocate somewhere else Lucy.


1,316 posted on 06/18/2004 1:46:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: nuggler
Hitler represented Christianity. The beheading of a civilian is not an act condoned by Islam.

Hitler was never a Christian. He was a Nordic worshipping pagan.

Second. You better go read the Koran again because it is QUITE sanctioned by that unholy book. Rape, murder, theft, pedophilia are all laid out in the koran as fine practices against infidels.

1,317 posted on 06/18/2004 1:46:45 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Red Boots

two points: Hitler was establishing a pagan reich, no Christianity involved.Learn your history., 2. The Bible in no way condones violent behavior; even the old Testament violence is time/place specific, whereas the Koran totally does advocate violence against all infidels. To equate the two is to show your ignorance. Have you read either??"


Two counterpoints:

1. Hitler may have been establishing a Reich based on the occult, but his support was from Christian Germans. Know your history - the men fighting in the Wehrmacht weren't a bunch of wizards and witches, but rather "good Christians" who'd been brainwashed by Hitler's siren song of Master Race and World Domination.


2. I don't know why you brought the Bible into this conversation, but I do know that the Old Testament has numerous references to archaic, violent solutions to events that have far more civil solutions today. Unless you too advocate stoning women who are pregnant out of wedlock or the other numerous examples of a thankfully-unused system of 'justice'. Fortunately, Christianity experienced a Reformation, thanks to men like Martin Luther. Islam is 500 years behind in this regard.

I have not read the Koran and have zero intentions of wasting my time doing so.


1,318 posted on 06/18/2004 1:46:53 PM PDT by Blzbba
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To: McGruff

According to my math, if SA supplies 22% of our oil and gas is $2.00/gal., I think gas would rise to less than $2.50/gal. without them. Seems like a fair trade to me. If the royals should fall, so what?! We go over, drive populations away from the oilfields and turn the spigots on full tilt. The extra oil will bring down prices and pay for the operation. Real simple.


1,319 posted on 06/18/2004 1:48:53 PM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: TomGuy

We have continuous prayer for our troops, but we should also have calls for continuous prayer for the civilian workers overseas...


1,320 posted on 06/18/2004 1:49:03 PM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (Any day the chipmunk poops on someone else's pillow is a good day. --- stolen from T'wit)
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