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Poll Shows 99% of Iraqiis Don't Want U.S. There. [NPR Talk Show Host Claims]
Wisconsin Public Radio ^ | June 18, 2004 | StACase

Posted on 06/18/2004 6:26:34 PM PDT by StACase

My E-Mail to Dave Berkman of Wisconsin Public Radio:

During your 3:00 show this afternoon, I heard you claim 98% of Iraqiis don't view the US as liberating Iraq per some poll. It didn't ring very true to me. So I looked up recent polls on the internet, here's what I found so far.

Here's a more recent article:

I don't see your 98% figure.

Steve Case

Dave Berkman's Response:

I read this yesterday as I wrote something about it for my column. I read 4 papers a day, the JS, USA Today the Chi Trib & the NYTimes. It was in one of those (I daonlty recall which) -- but it was specific as to the CPA poll sponsorship and the 2%.

--Dave Berkman


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Does anyone know of any recent poll that has this 98% figure Berkman talked about in today's show?

Dave Berkman
Dave Berkman
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1 posted on 06/18/2004 6:26:36 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase
Duh! the headline is supposed to say 98%
2 posted on 06/18/2004 6:28:32 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase

My answer would be.......... Who cares?, we have a job to do, and when it's over, we will leave


3 posted on 06/18/2004 6:28:48 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Troops swear to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, LOOKOUT DEMS)
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To: StACase

If he really said this, then it's a preposterous lie. There is no such thing as a 98% response on any poll. If the question was "Do you want steel spikes driven into your head?" the "No" response would probably come in at about 95%, tops.


4 posted on 06/18/2004 6:30:50 PM PDT by MeanFreePath
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To: StACase
This guy has spun a survey about what Iraqi people think of Americans into an "either/or" thing that wasn't in the poll.

This was yesterday's news anyway, but the deal is Iraqis generally think of the United States as an occupying power.

They are getting smarter ever since Saddam was dragged from that hole. It's hard to fault them on knowing what we are doing over there which is, of course, occupying their country~!

5 posted on 06/18/2004 6:31:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: StACase

The question is why were you listening to his drivel? Just because you paid for it doesn't mean you have to listen.


6 posted on 06/18/2004 6:32:09 PM PDT by blanknoone (Gigolos for John Kerry...it has a certain ring to it.)
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To: StACase

98% figure is ridiculous to say the least.

However, June 30 is the handover date and Iraqis will only have themselves to blame.


7 posted on 06/18/2004 6:32:19 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: MeanFreePath
If he really said this, then it's a preposterous lie. There is no such thing as a 98% response on any poll. If the question was "Do you want steel spikes driven into your head?" the "No" response would probably come in at about 95%, tops.

He said it.

8 posted on 06/18/2004 6:32:41 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase

Sample size.... 40 Iraqis.


9 posted on 06/18/2004 6:33:19 PM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: StACase
Poll Shows 99% of Iraqiis Don't Want U.S. There. [NPR Talk Show Host Claims]

Yeah...I'm sure they'd rather still have Saddam Hussein killing and maiming their population by the hunderds of thousands.

The liberal media can be profoundly asinine.

10 posted on 06/18/2004 6:33:53 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: StACase

Do you have his emails? I imagine a lot of Freepers would like to make further inquiries of him. Perhaps convince him to get off his lying duff and dig up the 1 of 4 papers he claims to have remembered seeing his imaginary number.


11 posted on 06/18/2004 6:34:05 PM PDT by bluefish (Disclaimer for Pukin: I do not believe Freepers should die for arguing with me.)
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To: b4its2late
Sample size.... 40 Iraqis.

All from Al Sadr's militia.

12 posted on 06/18/2004 6:34:54 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: blanknoone
The question is why were you listening to his drivel? Just because you paid for it doesn't mean you have to listen.

I like to hear what the other side is saying.

13 posted on 06/18/2004 6:34:59 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase
who are they asking ? Alqueda ? or the Saddam loyalists
14 posted on 06/18/2004 6:35:40 PM PDT by The Mayor (Christians are like coals of fire-together, they glow; apart, they grow cold.)
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To: b4its2late
Sample size.... 40 Iraqis.

All residing in Al Ghraib.

15 posted on 06/18/2004 6:37:14 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: bluefish
Do you have his emails? I imagine a lot of Freepers would like to make further inquiries of him. Perhaps convince him to get off his lying duff and dig up the 1 of 4 papers he claims to have remembered seeing his imaginary number.

dberkman@wi.rr.com

16 posted on 06/18/2004 6:37:38 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase

I heard it too. Bill O'Reilly read the poll on his radio show a couple days ago. It was something like 70% didn't want us there, 28% wanted us to leave soon, and 2% wanted us to stay. I don't remember where O'Reilly was reading the poll from but he quoted the author of the poll and the figures a couple times.


17 posted on 06/18/2004 6:39:30 PM PDT by Higgymonster
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To: StACase
Goode Olde David. Why don't ya'know that Goode Olde David is a worn out communist from the 1960's. Goode Odle David is one of the last avowed communists in Milwaukee and spends his time driving back and forth to Madison so that he will not be entirely lonely. What a lonely man!
A close relative of mine had the Goode Odle David as a Prof
that student had to take a shower after every class.
The student had to lie through Goode Olde David's class in order to get a passing grade in a mandatory class.
18 posted on 06/18/2004 6:41:15 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: All

Was it the same 99% that voted Saddam into office a few years back?


19 posted on 06/18/2004 6:41:20 PM PDT by fhlh ("Work Harder.... Millions of people on welfare are counting on you!!!")
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To: StACase

Don't fret. Even if it were true, it would be meaningless. A similar poll in Germany after WW2 would have shown the the same. While the population ate US food and accepted everything they were given to help them rebuild their country, they wrote slogans on walls and fences; Yankee Go Home. I remember. I was there.
Dave Berkman, who ever he is, seems to be a very twisted creature with no understanding of human nature and no knowledge of history.
The Romans brought civilization to europe - no one thought to thank them, either. Look how much bad press they are still getting more than two thousand years later!


20 posted on 06/18/2004 6:52:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understanding Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks.)
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To: StACase


the elite conspiracy to suck up taxpayers' money by academic appointments, grants, self- and mutual congratulation in review articles, positions on public radio, travel perks to the MLA and other important "conferences" which pays for drinking Heineken in little front rooms with bentwood rockers and avocado plants, bookshelves full of Noam Chomsky and books on the 'poetry' of Bob Dylan and other cheap imitations of Dylan Thomas('Baby, put on 'Diamonds and Rust')cute wooden carvings of imaginary animals from Mexico --

I have to stop myself.


21 posted on 06/18/2004 6:53:32 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: b4its2late
Sample size.... 40 Iraqis.

Sample: Al Fedayeen

22 posted on 06/18/2004 6:55:25 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Fred Nerks
Dave Berkman, who ever he is, seems to be a very twisted creature with no understanding of human nature and no knowledge of history.

Thereby perfectly qualified to work for NPR.

23 posted on 06/18/2004 6:56:45 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: StACase

The LA Times took a similar poll of 100 Iraqis, and found that 340% wanted the U.S. out of Iraq.


24 posted on 06/18/2004 6:58:24 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: StACase

Sorry, but NPR and a guy with the name of Berkman don't interest me whatsoever. No way, no how.


25 posted on 06/18/2004 7:02:19 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: StACase

98%!? You have got to be kidding me. I highly doubt that 98% of Iraquis want us gone.


26 posted on 06/18/2004 7:04:01 PM PDT by Angry Republican
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To: jackbill
Sorry, but NPR and a guy with the name of Berkman don't interest me whatsoever. No way, no how.

So why did you bother to post?

27 posted on 06/18/2004 7:05:22 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase

And every day our brave troops have to listen to 10 hours of morale undermining NPR lies on Armed Forces radio, but one hour of Rush is too much.

Let the troops vote for the programs they want to hear - I think that's the least we can do for them. Surely, even the libs must think our guys deserve to hear what they want to, right? Right?


28 posted on 06/18/2004 7:05:36 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: Let's Roll
Adrian Kronauer doesn't live here any more.
29 posted on 06/18/2004 7:07:09 PM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase
This guy is spinning propaganda for the lefty media that he caters to. The people of Iraq want the Americans there and are joining the Iraqi army and police forces by the droves.
When their own innocent people are killed, they blame the terrorist (correct answer). When they can put up another satellite dish on the roof, the thank the Americans. When they can own a cell phone, that's progress.
30 posted on 06/18/2004 7:13:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (jonrick46)
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To: Higgymonster
Bill O'Reilly read the poll on his radio show a couple days ago. It was something like 70% didn't want us there, 28% wanted us to leave soon

This was a legitimate poll, unfortunately. We are loosing the PR battle big time.

31 posted on 06/18/2004 7:16:22 PM PDT by caltaxed
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To: caltaxed
This was a legitimate poll

Do you have the source for this "Ligitimate" poll?

32 posted on 06/18/2004 7:18:49 PM PDT by StACase
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To: caltaxed

Well we want to leave soon too.. in that we want the job to be done soon. I whole-heartedly support the war, and do not support leaving until Iraq is secure and democratic. Perhaps if the questions were framed differently, there would be a different response. For example:

Do you want the coalition to:

a) pull out immediately
b) pull out when requested by a stable, secure Iraqi government
c) stay indefinately

I would assume most would respond 'b', as would I. I also would hope 'b' would be soon.


33 posted on 06/18/2004 7:21:14 PM PDT by Marfoe (http://www.marfoeblog.com)
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To: StACase
So they asked 2 guys with their heads covered up and carrying RPGs. I believe the LA Times set up the poll.
34 posted on 06/18/2004 7:27:35 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: fhlh
Was it the same 99% that voted Saddam into office a few years back?

There aren't as many as there were before.

However, Saddam's handpicked man that certified the Saddam era elections is now working freelance for Reuters, BBC,
Al-Jazeera, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, and um, NPR, as a pollster.

35 posted on 06/18/2004 7:33:37 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: StACase
Poll Shows 99% of Iraqiis Don't Want U.S. There. [NPR Talk Show Host Claims]

Even if this were true (which I doubt after reading SGT Tibbet's story yesterday)...but EVEN if it were true would it really matter?

Isn't our purpose there to achieve our own objectives that will enhance our own security?

Perhaps we should have taken a poll before WWII to see if the Japanese and Germans really wanted us to enter the war....and then let that be the determining factor.

Would that be idiotic or am I the one who a wacko?!?

36 posted on 06/18/2004 7:33:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: b4its2late
Sample size.... 40 Iraqis Bathists.
37 posted on 06/18/2004 7:40:21 PM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: StACase

Must be the same 98% that voted for Hussein in the last election, LOL.

Wait, maybe there were 100% that voted for him, so 2% have seen the light.


38 posted on 06/18/2004 7:40:40 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: StACase

big deal 98% of the people in most countries don't want their boss to be at work, so what!


39 posted on 06/18/2004 7:45:42 PM PDT by seastay
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To: okie01

"Therefor perfectly qualified to work for NPR"

Obviously. This is an aside - I met one just like him at a dinner party last night. His father managed to escape from Russia in 1918. "from the Bolsheviks" he said. The family ended up in Australia and this oppinionated guest was born here. He is a typical twisted lefty. Why? Well, that took some figuring out. Seems the 'glorious revolution' robbed his family of their heritage. (His words.)

Get it? The man, aged in his late fifties, sees himself as a victim. His family lost an estate that he says he should have inherited. It's twisted logic, but something that psychology understands well. The victim sees himself as having been abused...and the abused themselves, abuse others in turn. His only revenge is to now do unto others...so captilalism and private ownership in his mind, is evil because...IF HE COULDN'T HAVE IT, WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE?


40 posted on 06/18/2004 7:50:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understanding Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks.)
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To: b4its2late

Sample methodology: we found 40 "random" Iraqis standing on a smoldering Humvee, jumping and cheering.


41 posted on 06/18/2004 7:50:19 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: StACase

They polled the people that their reporters hang out with in Iraq, Al Queda and Sadr's Shiiteheads, and 98% of them said tha tthey didn't want the US there. The other 2% were killed.


42 posted on 06/18/2004 7:53:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: StACase
WASHINGTON - A poll of Iraqis commissioned by the U.S.-backed government has provided the Bush administration a stark picture of anti-American sentiment — more than half of Iraqis believe they would be safer if U.S. troops simply left. The poll, commissioned by the Coalition Provisional Government last month

Over 1K surveyed. Our troops have their hands full

43 posted on 06/18/2004 7:57:27 PM PDT by caltaxed
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To: StACase

NPR is a mouthpiece for the left. If you believe that, e-mail me privately about the fabuous purchase of prime rea; estate for $1.00.


44 posted on 06/18/2004 7:59:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Now you see how a reporter gets his info to write about. TABLOIDS


45 posted on 06/18/2004 8:05:33 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: StACase

I have to tell you:

I dont believe the polls.

here is why: One poll result said that 75% 'feared for their life' if they were to 'collaborate' with the coalition?

So a stranger comes and asks them questions - how would you expect them to respond?

Dont any of them see that the blame for violence falls on the terrorists and thugs?

So, if you saw a poll that said 98% would vote for Saddam Hussein, like they did 2 years ago? Is that honesty ... or fear?

Sadly, we missed our chance to totally crush the Saddamite opposition. Maybe it was impossible; too much power and muslim bigotry.


46 posted on 06/18/2004 8:15:17 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Marfoe

Right!!!
Pollaganda to make it sound like something it is not.
I do vote for "pull out when no longer needed".

Do you want an airforce base operating 24/7 right behind your backyard?
No 98%
Yes 2%

Media sez "Only 2% support building airforce bases"

same kind of pollaganda here.


47 posted on 06/18/2004 8:18:37 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: StACase

That sounds suspiciously close to the 99% of the vote that ol' Saddam got in the last election.


48 posted on 06/18/2004 8:25:55 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: StACase

When you are assaulted by bogus polls that sample from predictable parts of IRAQ and not from the Kurdish area, balance the stated thought of the populace with measurable action. From todays Strategy Page::::::::::



IRAQ: Terrorist Attacks Boost Army Recruiting


June 18, 2004: Yesterday's suicide bombing of an Iraqi army recruiting center killed 41 and wounded over a hundred. This is only the latest of dozens of attacks on Iraqi police and army facilities. It has not diminished the number of volunteers, or, at least not to the point where the recruiters are running out of men willing to serve. While for most men, the dangerous police and military work is mainly a job, the continuing attacks on Iraqis by terrorists has inflamed the population. For a long time it was popular to blame the United States for the attacks, but eventually reality worked its way through to most Iraqis and they realized that if they were to be free and able to run their own affairs, they would have to deal with the terrorists (Iraqi and foreign) in their midst. This was helped along by a long running American psychological warfare campaign that stressed the self-reliance angle, and reminded everyone that, while Saddam was captured, most of his blood soaked henchmen are still out and about. Apparently, attacks like this increase the number of recruits wanting to take part in the war on terror.


49 posted on 06/18/2004 8:33:03 PM PDT by gogipper (He was my commander in chief!)
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To: Fred Nerks
"The man, aged in his late fifties, sees himself as a victim. His family lost an estate that he says he should have inherited."

A "victim". But, in his mind, the blame does not lie with the perpetrators, but with the liberators.

He would, no doubt, have made a good "Bolshevik" himself. Perhaps, the party would've given him his family's estate as a dacha.

It takes a certain type to be a condescending liberal.

50 posted on 06/18/2004 8:39:23 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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