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Berkowitz (Son of Sam): Don't parole me
Associated Press ^ | June 18, 2004 | By JOEL STASHENKO

Posted on 06/19/2004 12:30:11 AM PDT by freebilly

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To: freebilly
I forgive him, kind of, but I think he should be closer to God.

There are things that make sense in life. Releasing him does not.

21 posted on 06/19/2004 2:48:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: freebilly
If he was sincerely repentant he'd take his website down, quit giving interviews, and become invisible, out of compassion for the families of the people he killed. It is a slap in their faces that he's permitted to do this at all. THEY are who he owes atonement to. I don't care what "good" he claims to have done in prison, it is all worthless if he continues to distress the people he has harmed most.

But he obviously doesn't care any more for them than he did for the thirteen people he killed or wounded, for fun.

22 posted on 06/19/2004 3:11:35 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: claudiustg

Parole hearings are mandatory, whether he or we want them or not.


23 posted on 06/19/2004 3:13:17 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: freebilly

If they're even considering paroling SOS why is Sirhan Sirhan still in jail. It's been 36 years since he, at the age of 21, commited murder in the heat of anger. Maybe he should be freed. Do yout think he's still locked up because he killed a Kennedy?


24 posted on 06/19/2004 3:15:03 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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"Berkowitz is serving six consecutive 25-years-to-life sentences."

Although I think Mr.Berkowitz shows more brains than the parole board, why is he even being considered for parole? He's one of the most infamous serial killers in the history of NY, I assume he hasn't petitioned for parole (since he's rejecting the idea), and this just gives me great qualms about the entire system.

If you get 25 to life are you automatically considered for parole after the inital 25 year term, even if you're the Son of Sam?

What about other murderers, who aren't famous, or crazy, but may in fact be just as violent?

There seem to be certain people in our society (those would be the liberals) who think it's a great thing for us to have killers, rapists, and other criminals amoung us at all times. They don't want to execute them, and they can't even stand the thought of keeping them in jail.

When the crime rate goes down, they want to let these villains out of jail, I guess so the crime rate can go back up. They don't want people to have the right, or the equipment, to defend themselves.

They are a sick, sick, group. At least Mr. Berkowitz grasps that what he did was wrong. I'll be there are many liberals who think society deserved the "punishment" inflicted on it by Son of Sam.


25 posted on 06/19/2004 3:48:15 AM PDT by jocon307 (help....I lost my tagline! wait I found it: Immigration Moratorium NOW!)
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There seem to be certain people in our society (those would be the liberals) who think it's a great thing for us to have killers, rapists, and other criminals amoung us at all times.

It's all in the name of diversity.

26 posted on 06/19/2004 4:07:23 AM PDT by monocle
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To: freebilly
I agree he is repentant -

the same psalm hit me squarely between the eyes when I was lost

no parole though

27 posted on 06/19/2004 5:13:47 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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An interesting twist I heard re:SoS.

It seems that he was found to be demonic possesed. This came out by some investigative process among a group who looked into his case. remember the dog...and the voices he said were controlling him?
This group arranged to have a series of excorcisms for SoS. It was after this, that he began to study the Bile, the works of the Lord and began his acceptance of Christ.

28 posted on 06/19/2004 6:05:27 AM PDT by Khurkris (Will the wind ever remember the names it has blown in the past, It whispers no this will be the last)
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To: Khurkris

pardon me, sticky keyboard...That would be "...study the Bible..."


29 posted on 06/19/2004 6:07:18 AM PDT by Khurkris (Will the wind ever remember the names it has blown in the past, It whispers no this will be the last)
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Berkowitz is serving six consecutive 25-years-to-life sentences.

Six consecutive (end to end), not con-current (served at the same time), sentences should be 150 years!!! So why is he even appearing before a parole board before at least 1/3 of his sentence has been performed, which would be 50 years!!!

The SYSTEM is really messed up!!! At least the crimminal recognizes this.

Heaven help the rest of society cause we're going to need it

30 posted on 06/19/2004 6:41:33 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Well... There you go again!)
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"Six consecutive (end to end), not con-current (served at the same time), sentences should be 150 years!!!"

EXACTLY! Or why bother making them CONSECUTIVE sentances? Just tell the guy: we're going to put you in prison for a while, we'll figure out for how long later!


31 posted on 06/19/2004 6:49:52 AM PDT by jocon307 (help....I lost my tagline! wait I found it: Immigration Moratorium NOW!)
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To: jjbrouwer

Ha! Very good! :) Were you here when he was on the loose? Not a fun time...


32 posted on 06/19/2004 4:55:28 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall! -- RIP, President Reagan)
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To: freebilly

He also knows that there's no way he could survive out in the real world again.


33 posted on 06/19/2004 4:59:03 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: freebilly

He the devil. And if you lived through his terror you would know. We were shocked to find out he lived about 6 miles from our house in Yonkers. We were afraid to sit out at night that summer and I will never forget the blackout of 77 it was a nightmare knowing this demon was stalking the streets. He should have been executed he is the devil.


34 posted on 06/19/2004 5:04:14 PM PDT by angcat
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To: freebilly

No wonder NY State is such a hellhole for spending tax dollars. The dude said he didn't want to be paroled, but the state parole board still had a hearing for him. DUH!


35 posted on 06/19/2004 5:06:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Extremer than any Extremist!!!)
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To: freebilly
God's grace doesn't make a whole lot of sense to people who haven't experienced it....

True. I'd go even further and say that God's grace doesn't make a whole lot of sense to those of us who *have* experienced it. His inexplicable love just expands my awe-ful worship of him, expands my sense of wonder at his kindness towards an undeserving sinner like me.

36 posted on 06/19/2004 5:15:22 PM PDT by Theo
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It *is* unfair that God has apparently forgiven him and given him new life. That's what grace is -- giving good things to those who do not deserve good things.

God is in the business of giving a second chance (and a 3rd chance, and a 4th chance, etc.) to even the most undeserving devil of a man.

I'm not saying you're wrong to be angry at this man for killing people and for causing a nightmare for many many many people.... Have you read any interviews with him?


37 posted on 06/19/2004 5:21:25 PM PDT by Theo
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To: freebilly; endthematrix; Revelation 911; Khurkris; Theo

"I actually believe that God is using him for a purpose. I don't excuse him for what he did, but he does seem sincerely repentant...."


One of the staff psychologist of "Focus On The Family" did an interview with Berkowitz that
resulted in a three-part airing this spring.

I've got mixed emotions. In a rational world, Berkowitz should have at least gotten the needle
by now. But the interview (and the testimony of others) reveals that a virtual sub-human
animal can now at least comport himself in the controlled environment of the prison.

Maybe G-d kept him alive (via the NY State legal system and through the one jail-house
attack that almost killed him) so that he can give psychologists a picture of the factors
(environmental/spiritual) that can result in a criminal rampage.

And, IIRC, during the interview, Berkowitz read a letter refusing parole.

In the interest of fair-play, I will mention that John Douglas, the former FBI profiler,
has reacted fairly cynically about Berkowitz's conversion. Douglas thinks this is almost
a predictable outcome as many serial killers he has interviewed express the wish that
their had gone into law enforcement, the ministry or other occupations in which a fair
amount of control can be had over others.

For those interested, here's a link to the Focus On The Family interview with Berkowitz
(I don't know if the audio links are still functional)


http://www.family.org/fmedia/broadcast/a0030452.cfm


38 posted on 06/19/2004 5:22:58 PM PDT by VOA
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And here's an interview with Berkowitz:

http://www.cbn.com/scottross/interviews/sonofsam.asp

It's quite an encouraging and powerful testimony of God's kindness to a sick and sinful man.


39 posted on 06/19/2004 5:32:27 PM PDT by Theo
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To: freebilly

And too healthy to suit me.


40 posted on 06/19/2004 5:40:53 PM PDT by Old Professer (lust; pure, visceral groin-grinding, sweat-popping, heart-pounding staccato bursts of shooting stars)
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