Skip to comments.The new Mozillas are out (my title)
Posted on 06/19/2004 5:44:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Plus all the features a modern browser should have including: Advanced security settings; Password, Download, and Cookie managers; Themes; multi-language and multi-platform support; and, the latest in Web Standards.
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(Excerpt) Read more at mozilla.org ...
Porting my data to Firefox was a cinch, but trying to port just the email part of my Mozilla profile to Thunderbird took a little more work (you can drag it all over, but I don't like extra junk lying around). All working great and I didn't lose a thing, not a cookie, not a saved password, not an email, not a junk mail filter.
Come and get it!
That, and the lack of serious (from Microsoft's perspective) competition to Internet Explorer for several years now, seems to reasonably explain the lack of major new featuers in IE.
Now it seems that Mozilla/Firefox has gained the upper hand, and is continuing to deliver new, interesting features at a faster rate.
It may take Microsoft a while to reconstitute their IE software development efforts to a competitive level.
The bad news for MS is it's going to happen with or without them, but it's going to happen. Just a matter of time.
Never can figure out which one I like better.
Use IE, for updates only.
I'm very happy with Camino, the Mac Mozilla..
Thanks for the news. I love my Mozilla.
I just wish my bank would support it for my online bill paying.
Running Firefox .9. Been using Mozilla browsers for it seems years. IMO, firefox is faster than Navigator. But both are excellent,
I'm using .8; guess it's time to upgrade!
IE only when all else fails.
Mozilla, mainly because it's free without ads. I have absolutely no browser loyalty, using what's best. I went from Mosaic to Netscape 1, then ditched Netscape 4.7 when it sucked in comparison to IE 5.5, then Mozilla at 1.0. I'll switch again if I can find something better at that price, but I haven't seen it yet and don't think I will for a while.
BTW, I found a couple cool things to do with Firefox. At the bottom of a bookmark tab in the toolbar is "open in tabs." I put all the news sites I read in one tab, then open them all at one click. Now I've learned to put any discussions I'm interested in following in a "Threads" tab. Click on "open in tabs" and all of my discussions are right there. An excellent feature for Free Republic denizens.
Such is the danger of monopoly. Even if two million people switched to Mozilla today, it wouldn't put a dent in IE's share.
IE just pisses me off. I'm developing an intranet app for a 100% IE audience. I wanted to use CSS to do some basic UI stuff that's good for accessibility and in general, something simple like making the current textbox form field be hilighted (brighter border). Nope, IE can't understand the CSS :focus pseudo-class. What a crap browser. It's monopoly status is hurting the WWW.
I really don't understand the fascination with Mozilla. I've tried all the Mozilla browsers (not the very newest though) and found them a little clunky and ugly.
On the other hand, I love Opera and I've used it exclusively (except for Windows updates) for about 2 years now. I think it's just a better, faster browser.
To each his own I guess.
I notice that Mozilla now has Firefox 9.0 out. Is it truly much better, and if I download it, will it simply replace the 8.0 I've got now? I am curious as I'm using a dialup and any such download takes quite a while.
Sorry, can't help. This is my first use of Firefox. But it's a whole lot better than Mozilla 1.6.
Try the newest. Very skinnable too, with a couple of UI skins that are actually worth using. As far as Opera, I don't like adware, and to me it's not worth the extra money over Mozilla for a clean version.
I just downloaded and installed Firefox 9.0. It's smaller (4.8 meg) than 8.0 and seems to run a bit faster There are a few glitches with some of the plugins but it has an update feature to fix them. I'm using it with Slackware (Linux) and Windows both with no problems. It's worth the upgrade.
The only thing that really "bugs" me is that my visited links don't change color, even though they're clearly marked as different under Tools->Options->Fonts & Colors.
Other than that, I love Firefox.
I can check my account, but the bill pay feature doesn't work - I've already talked to tech support at my bank. I have to use IE, which means spy ware, which means a session w/Ad-aware. Kind of a drag.
Firefox is great, been using it for a year. Theres only a few Java applets it seems to have trouble with, so I stll have IE installed, just don't use it often at all.
That is just about the best extension for this browser (perhaps Adblock, too), and I sorely miss it. I'm tempted to revert back to 0.8 just to get that extension back...
Even without it, though, Firefox is still the best browser on themarket, and MS is gonna wish they had kept up development of IE.
Once you have downloaded a Firefox installer or compressed archive, follow these instructions to install:
First, for these preview releases it is strongly recommended that you uninstall any previous version of Firefox first. Installing over the top of an older version may cause unpredictable problems. If you install over the top of an older version and want to file bugs, please do a clean install into a fresh directory before doing so.
Double click the FirefoxSetup-0.9.exe installer to start the install.
NOTE - Do not install Firefox over the top of another Firefox installation. If you want to install Firefox 0.9 into the same folder that you had Firefox 0.8 in, uninstall Firefox 0.8 first. Upgrading will be fixed in a future release.
Double click the Firefox Compressed Disk Image to mount. Your browser may have already uncompressed the image and mounted it for you. Double click the Firefox 0.9 Disk Image and drag the Firefox application onto your hard disk. Drag the icon to your Dock if you want it to appear there.
Extract the tarball and run the installer like so:
tar -xzvf firefox-0.9-i686-linux-gtk2+xft.tar.gz
Extract the compressed archive and run firefox
To uninstall Firefox, follow these instructions:
From the Start menu, choose Control Panel. When the Control Panel appears, double click Add or Remove Programs. Find "Mozilla Firefox (0.9.)" in the list and click Remove to uninstall.
Drag the Firefox application to the Trash.
Remove the firefox folder.
These instructions leave your profile in place in case you install Firefox again in the future. If you wish to remove your Firefox profile folder, follow these instructions:
Locate your Application Data folder, this is usually under Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data. You may need to make hidden files visible in Windows Explorer, since the Application Data folder is hidden. If your username is "Joe", and your Documents and Settings folder is on C:\, your profile folder is here: C:\Documents and Settings\Joe\Application Data\Firefox. Delete the Phoenix folder to remove your profile data.
Open the Library folder in your Home folder, and remove the Firefox folder. (~/Library/Firefox/).
What's the difference between Mozilla 1.7 and Firefox/Thunderbird?
Try MyIE2, a shell for Internet Explorer. Once you use this you'll never go back to plain IE. Too many features to list including mouse gestures.
Been using Moz since 1.1.
1.7 is very nice. One extension to add is bugmenot, especially for Freepers. Allows you to go to login sites without having to use your own email address or provide any personal info, (real or not). Used it for both the Wash Post and NYT with no problems.
That must be why I can, using I.E., run my work desktop from home with only a slight degredation in screen performance.
I'm trying Mozilla.
Mozilla is everything, browser, email, chat, composer all in one package. It's also the base reference for the technology used in all other Mozilla products. Firefox is the browser only, and Thunderbird is the email only. But Firefox and Thunderbird are also a bit more advanced in features over their Mozilla counterparts.
I'm not sure how the install under Windows works, as I run Linux, but it does work fine. I'm using 0.9 now, and only have one minor irritant--one of my favorite extensions is not yet ready for 0.9. Once that is in place, though, Firefox will be impossible to beat as a browser.
Thank you for the information. I'm using Netscape for my e-mail, but I think I'll switch over to Thunderbird so I won't have to load the entire suite every time.
I'm thinking of switching over from IE to Firefox for my browsing, too, although I need to keep my IE updated, because of my web design business. For obvious reasons, I design for IE primarily.
For obvious reasons, I design to W3C standards for the Internet, but I hold back from using the stuff that's too complicated for IE's little brain. Sometimes for specialty or "geek" sites I'll throw it all in to make a point (get a real, W3C compliant browser if you want to view this right).
But in latest news, seems Mozilla and Opera have had an effect. Microsoft is apparently reconstituting its browser division. Time for Microsoft to steal ideas from free software some more!
I'm viewing this on Firefox. So far, so good. I like the idea of tighter security for my browsing.
I've downloaded Thunderbird, but haven't had the time to change over from Netscape (father's day, you know.)
There is a "windows installer" as well, and it's all pretty easy to do..
You DO have to uninstall 0.8 before installing 0.9 however.. ( unless you install to a NEW directory )
Use the program's uninstall, NOT the MS change/remove programs.. ( it will remove stuff you don't want removed.. )
Did you see this?
Not remotely possible? Or doesn't apply.
Opera is my main browser also. But 7.51 has introduced a goofy glitch. About once each day, mine will get confused about mouse clicks and act as though they occurred in a different window. I didn't have this problem with 7.50 or any of the beta versions.
Just absolutely idiotic.
Not remotely possible you're saying?
Just plain stupid. Remember, Mozilla is the American Netscape without the branding. AOL placed the new Netscape (6) codebase out in the open with a foundation and some startup money to continue work on the project it didn't want to do anymore. Funny though, although Mozilla comes from Netscape, now any new version of Netscape is really just a rebranded Mozilla.
I've got a question for web developers. I just downloaded Firefox because I wanted to see how my website looked with it. I have been developing for IE using Cascading Style Sheets, but with Firefox, it's almost like it doesn't recognize some of my styles. Has anyone else experienced these issues with IE/Mozilla compatability?
No communists in America?
IE doesn't do CSS correctly, so often if you do the workarounds to get style sheets working well with IE it can break the rendering in Firefox and other standards-compliant browsers. I've found that developing with Visual Studio.NET you get two main browser choices to develop to: IE 5 or Netscape 4 (which is totally broken for CSS, making IE look awesome in comparison). So if you want to use CSS, it writes it to be compatible with IE5. It would be nice if they put a "Mozilla minus what IE can't understand" as an option.
Fortunately the users for my current app all use IE, but I'm about to develop some customer-facing sites so I definately need to make sure they are compatable.
What I'm doing at work is also IE-only, so I don't have to worry much -- and I doubt they'll be switching to Firefox any time soon. For public sites though, I do it CSS-standard, which works perfectly in Firefox, Opera, etc., and I make sure that any CSS I use that IE can't handle isn't critical to the site's layout or function.
I've been using MyIE2 as well. Just about everyone I've shown has switched. I've tried the new firefox but found that it wasn't as feature rich and lacked good tabbing prefernces.
It has popup blocker but what about adware junk? People who create these things should be in jail.
By design, Mozilla/Firefox is immune to adware/spyware. I only have AdAware on my Windows machine for those rare times I have to use IE and for the games my wife sometimes downloads and installs. Every piece of junk I've found on that box has been because of those.
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