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Reuters Now Showing Photos of Dead US Troops
Reuters ^ | 6/21/2004

Posted on 06/21/2004 6:13:57 AM PDT by oblomov

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To: Grampa Dave
It is time that some spec ops guy take this Reuters clymer and his immediate supervisors on a final picture taking mission. After their job is done, use their cameras to take pictures of the dead Reuters Islamo$hits. Then put those final Reuters's pictures on the Arabic internet sites the Islamofascists use, with just this comment: "Who's Next!"

Take a deep breath. Any American soldier who did that would be, rightfully, court-martialed and executed.

51 posted on 06/21/2004 7:11:13 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids

June 2004 is set to have the 3rd lowest number of casualties since the war began.

But don't tell anybody that....


52 posted on 06/21/2004 7:12:09 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I'm interested in making sure that not one single red penny of mine assists anyone even remotely connected to reuters.

I'd support a voluntary "no reuters month (year)" on FR postings. Hate to give them any hits.


53 posted on 06/21/2004 7:12:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Modernman
You don't show that kind of stuff before you notify the family of the slain.
54 posted on 06/21/2004 7:13:05 AM PDT by mware
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To: dennisw

He can get a $3000 machine gun but not a $5 pair of shoes?

55 posted on 06/21/2004 7:13:42 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: mware
You don't show that kind of stuff before you notify the family of the slain.

I could be wrong, but I believe that only applies if the bodies are identifiable, which doesn't seem to be the case here.

56 posted on 06/21/2004 7:16:48 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: oblomov
(grumbling loudly)

There is a fine line between reporting news events, and propagandizing them. This is the second....

57 posted on 06/21/2004 7:17:59 AM PDT by Maigrey (The threat of Terrorism has been greatly exaggerated. - Paul Johnson and Nick Berg would disagree.)
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To: ishabibble

I understand how you feel...my hubby is just back after 15mos...everytime a chopper went down, my heart sank........you have friends and support here....God Bless your Marine.


58 posted on 06/21/2004 7:21:27 AM PDT by mystery-ak (*They are all Pat Tillman's*........Rush)
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To: xzins

I refuse to go to the links.

The problem is that they control a lot of the so called financial news with CBS. Their left wing anti American spin is negative regardless of how good the news is.

Hopefully, Fox News, will launch a financial news service that will present a balanced side to financial news.


59 posted on 06/21/2004 7:22:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (John Fonda al Kerry began his political life as a Pro Commy Vietnam War protester!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I, too, will follow your lead and ban them from any personal use by me.

I hope others follow suit.


60 posted on 06/21/2004 7:26:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: sarasota
So it begins...the endless trail of photos to portray the horrors. Where are the photos depicting all the good news out of Iraq?

Because nobody is interested in photos of, say, a properly functioning oil pipeline. Good news is often boring news.

The simple fact is that blood and death sell.

61 posted on 06/21/2004 7:30:45 AM PDT by pickemuphere
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To: not-alone

I just called Reuters/America editoral content. The first time, I talked to a reporter who deep-sixed me into some voice mail. The second time, I talked to a young woman who did take my name and number. I refused the e-mail request, as it is just so easy to delete and forget.
I want an answer.

Only a short time ago, there was that hoopla about the flag-draped coffins photo and, once again, news made news. The line then was that the traitor who took those photos wanted us all to see the care that was taken with our KIA. What a crock of BS that was...but now I see that it was just the opening salvo, today we have this photo.
Shame on them. Shame on all of the political profiteers who would do this to every family with a Marine over there.
My God, this is the most awful thing. Where is the responsbility? How could they do this?

Today,


62 posted on 06/21/2004 7:36:08 AM PDT by ishabibble
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To: oblomov

I don't see heads on any of the bodies.


63 posted on 06/21/2004 7:40:35 AM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: oblomov
This is bull$hit.......

they won't show saddams torture, the be headings or plain and simple the horror these animals have done but they are starting to do this....

angry? just a tad!!!!
64 posted on 06/21/2004 7:42:11 AM PDT by The Mayor (Christians are like coals of fire-together, they glow; apart, they grow cold.)
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To: oblomov

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040621/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_ramadi_1

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt confirmed Monday that four U.S. service members were killed in the Sunni Muslim stronghold of Ramadi.

Videotape delivered to Associated Press Television News showed the four, still in uniform, lying dead near what appeared to be a walled compound.

Kimmitt, the deputy chief of operations, told reporters at a briefing in Baghdad, the capital, that the servicemen were conducting operations in Ramadi, and a search was launched when they failed to check in at an appointed time.

He declined further comment until the families of the dead could be notified.


65 posted on 06/21/2004 7:43:39 AM PDT by saquin
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I don't get it. How are 4 Marines sent out alone to do an operation. How do they get into a situation where it appeared they couldn't defend themselves. From the way they are lying, it looks to me like they were executed. How the hell does that happen?!?


66 posted on 06/21/2004 7:44:47 AM PDT by saquin
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To: oblomov
Four US Marines killed in action in Iraq

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1157301/posts?page=2

68 posted on 06/21/2004 7:50:29 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: oblomov



al-Reuters Corporate Motto:

"LULULULULULULULULULU!!!!!!"

Rest in Peace brave Marines!


69 posted on 06/21/2004 7:50:59 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: oblomov
I wonder if this is REUTERS/Ceerwan Aziz first on the scene once again, or should I say on the scene waiting.
70 posted on 06/21/2004 7:52:09 AM PDT by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
He can get a $3000 machine gun but not a $5 pair of shoes?
What model of machine gun is this?.
71 posted on 06/21/2004 8:19:32 AM PDT by reloader (Shooting- The only sport endorsed by the Founding Fathers.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

He can get a $3000 machine gun but not a $5 pair of shoes?

They call him shoeless Joe Jihad and the machine gun was bought used.

72 posted on 06/21/2004 8:31:20 AM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: oblomov

Take out the cameramen...the jihadies will whither on the vine.


73 posted on 06/21/2004 8:43:57 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: oblomov
Yep, photos are POWERFUL things.

And we Americans have been through some ROUGH TIMES in the past.

R.I.P., Marines.

But, Onward!

74 posted on 06/21/2004 9:05:24 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: Maigrey

I think someone ought to try to sue Reuters. It would make one heck of a legal rangling and perhaps make these photo-snap happy so-called journalists think twice before showing photos of dead Americans again without the permission of the parents/next of kin.

Wasn't family privacy the reason the photos of Vince Foster could not be shown? Seems that there is already a Supreme Court precedent for the families winning this in court. Also, if victorious, this would be the end of news agencies like Reuters -- good riddence.


75 posted on 06/21/2004 9:08:42 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Lunatic Fringe
"June 2004 is set to have the 3rd lowest number of casualties since the war began. But don't tell anybody that...."

The stats show that the insurgent terrorists have done their worst and peaked.

They killed 130 of us in April.
They killed 81 of in May.

So far this month they've killed 25 of us.

That's a pretty recognizable trend line.

76 posted on 06/21/2004 9:13:32 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: oblomov; All

I'm not dumbfounded. Just a few days ago, we hit a safe house and killed 22 people. Retribution should have been expected.

As highly trained as these guys are, I would suspect a ploy of some kind was used. Perhaps feigning to be friends of the soldiers and thereby putting them off guard.

HOWEVER, we need to see the brutality of this war .. we need to see the horror of what these people are capable of. We need to see Paul Johnson's photos all over in the print media, not almost hidden on Drudge.

We are not little children. We see worse things on our TV screens, and in the movies. We need to SEE what our enemy is doing .. we will never win the war at home if we refuse to show the public what these killers are doing.

And .. I don't care if anybody agrees with me.


77 posted on 06/21/2004 9:22:11 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: xzins

"Who owns and/or sponsors Reuters?"

Reuters is an unabashedly left-wing news organization.


79 posted on 06/21/2004 10:03:50 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: oblomov

God Bless these soldiers and their familys..... Then lord Give me the strengh and give me a gun to go over to Iraq.


80 posted on 06/21/2004 10:08:00 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Reagan was pure class....... John Kerry is a pure A.......... I let you fill in the blanks.)
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To: 2banana

But the locals always loot whatever usable gear our guys were wearing, so the lack of gear may or may not be indicative of posing.


81 posted on 06/21/2004 10:10:23 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Sick of the sickness!! ROPMA !!)
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To: CyberAnt

"Perhaps feigning to be friends of the soldiers and thereby putting them off guard..."

I learned a long time ago, there are no friendlies...


82 posted on 06/21/2004 10:21:41 AM PDT by nicko (CW3 Ret.-"Lt., you need to just unass the AO-I know what I'm doing-that goes for you too, Major...")
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To: Pukin Dog

Yep. If pictures of the Holocaust had been shown around the world, perhaps a few million people could have been saved.

We NEED to see this stuff. We NEED to understand the stakes. We NEED to use these images to stiffen our resolve to FINISH THE JOB that these brave souls died for.

God bless them and their loved ones.

And I hope everyone already noticed that terrorists have ANOTHER 10 more hostages, in addition to the South Korean... and these are American contractors and European journalists.


83 posted on 06/21/2004 10:21:45 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Sick of the sickness!! ROPMA !!)
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To: nicko

Yes .. I'm sure that's true .. but the PC press tries to tell our soldiers we can be friends if we're just nice to them they won't hurt us - garbage!


84 posted on 06/21/2004 10:25:25 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: ishabibble

What am I missing? Why are people demanding that the beheadings of Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, etc. be shown to the American people, but photos of our dead troops are taboo?

Admittedly naive, will someone please explain why the difference in attitude towards military deaths vs. non-military deaths?

I think all Americans should understand the enemy that we face and the price of war... and perhaps then, more people would get behind a more decisive (disproportional) response. Hiroshima killed alot of people, but it saved alot of lives in the long run.


85 posted on 06/21/2004 10:29:57 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Sick of the sickness!! ROPMA !!)
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To: saquin
How do they get into a situation where it appeared they couldn't defend themselves.

Who knows. I'm as frustrated as you are. Just a SWAG, but maybe they were suckered into what looked like a non-hostile situation? I wouldn't put anything past the bastards that did this, including using children as pawns.

86 posted on 06/21/2004 10:33:26 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: saquin; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Videotape delivered to Associated Press Television News showed the four, still in uniform, lying dead near what appeared to be a walled compound

Videotape. Provided by the terrorists or Reuters? Oh wait. Same-same as Cheney would say.

87 posted on 06/21/2004 10:35:57 AM PDT by cgk (3000+ 9/11. Pearl, Fallujah, Berg, Jacob, Scroggs, Johnson... Never forget. Never Again!)
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To: oblomov; MEG33; NormsRevenge; tet68; JOE6PAK; kellynla; Valin; Lurker; MissAmericanPie; SAMWolf; ...
If this photo is real...
If these are Marines...
If it is what it appears to be, a "journalist" witnessed ambush, or execution.
If these were Reuters "journalists"....
I strongly recommend that Reuters "photo-journalists" avoid all future contact with Marines....

My Marine Corps would NEVER have allowed a "journalist" to photograph their dead brothers in this manner....
The "journalists" were either WITH the killers, at the time of killing, or brought there by the killers, BEFORE the recovering Marines arrived....

In either case....in my world, these "journalists" are seriously "endangered"....

Semper Fi

88 posted on 06/21/2004 10:41:35 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: mware
"No US Marine would allow these guys to take those photos. Just when did Reuters take the photos?"

That Reuters published the pictures doesn't mean Reuters took the pictures.

I'm no fan of Reuters and I wouldn't put it passed them to have hired Al Quaeda types as their own version of "inbeds".

But if you have a $99 digital camera you could email a jpeg to Reuters and they could then decide whether to use it...within minutes.

89 posted on 06/21/2004 10:51:23 AM PDT by Positive (There's nothing sadder than seeing a group of great ideas being murdered by a bunch of brutal facts!)
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To: river rat; MEG33; NormsRevenge; tet68; JOE6PAK; kellynla; Valin; Lurker; MissAmericanPie; ...

Our policy should start having these "so called" journalists join our patrols. They can walk point and ride in the lead vehicle on convoys.


90 posted on 06/21/2004 10:52:32 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: 2banana
My guess is the scumbags stole their vests and weapons, obviously this would require moving the guys around.

From what I understand, it's highly unusual for 4 marines to be on patrol alone without support...I'm sure there are going to be more details.

91 posted on 06/21/2004 10:55:00 AM PDT by Positive (There's nothing sadder than seeing a group of great ideas being murdered by a bunch of brutal facts!)
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To: pickemuphere
"The simple fact is that blood and death sell."

There is actually a saying in TV news: "If it bleeds, it leads."

92 posted on 06/21/2004 10:58:03 AM PDT by Positive (There's nothing sadder than seeing a group of great ideas being murdered by a bunch of brutal facts!)
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To: SLB
Our policy should start having these "so called" journalists join our patrols. They can walk point and ride in the lead vehicle on convoys.

Sounds like a plan

93 posted on 06/21/2004 10:59:55 AM PDT by SAMWolf (It's only funny till someone gets hurt - Then it's hilarious)
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To: SLB
"so called" journalists join our patrols. They can walk point and ride in the lead vehicle on convoys.
As one who walked "point" in '69&'70, you definitely don't want journalists walking "point"...they'd just walk you right into an ambush!
These "journalists" need to be in the "rear" and out of the way.

Semper Fi, Kelly
94 posted on 06/21/2004 11:05:00 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: CyberAnt

it would be impossible for us back here to determine exactly what happened there, but rest assured, no one in theater harbors any illusions that no one means them harm...


95 posted on 06/21/2004 11:06:18 AM PDT by nicko (CW3 Ret.-"Lt., you need to just unass the AO-I know what I'm doing-that goes for you too, Major...")
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To: river rat

Reuters may have just wore out their welcome.
Publishing these photos was way "over the line!"

Semper Fi,
Kelly


96 posted on 06/21/2004 11:07:01 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: CyberAnt
We are not little children. We see worse things on our TV screens, and in the movies. We need to SEE what our enemy is doing .. we will never win the war at home if we refuse to show the public what these killers are doing.

I agree one hundred and ten percent.

By hiding our eyes and not seeing photos, will not make it go away. But it will show the truth of what is really going on.

One picture is worth a thousand words.

97 posted on 06/21/2004 11:07:02 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: BagCamAddict
And I hope everyone already noticed that terrorists have ANOTHER 10 more hostages, in addition to the South Korean... and these are American contractors and European journalists.

Is there a thread on this? I haven't heard much about this. Is this posted on FR, or somewhere in the news?

Thanks!

98 posted on 06/21/2004 11:09:15 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: kellynla
they'd just walk you right into an ambush!

Bet they only do it once.

99 posted on 06/21/2004 11:16:27 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Alouette

http://www.11alive.com/news/usnews_article.aspx?storyid=48399

BAGHDAD (AP) — Four U.S. service members were killed Monday — shot repeatedly in the head during an ambush while they were on patrol in the Sunni Muslim stronghold of Ramadi.

The four Americans killed in Ramadi had failed to check in at an appointed time, and a search was launched, Kimmitt said, declining further comment until relatives could be notified.

Videotape delivered to Associated Press Television News showed the four, still in uniform, lying dead near what appeared to be a walled compound.


100 posted on 06/21/2004 11:20:48 AM PDT by jimbo123
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