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The Road To Serfdom (In Cartoon Form)
The Road To Serfdom ^ | Unknown | Friedrich A. Hayek

Posted on 06/21/2004 9:21:14 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

The Road to Serfdom

by Friedrich A. Hayek



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KEYWORDS: economic; economics; friedrichhayek; hayek; progressive; socialism; tax; taxes; totalitarianism; welfare

1 posted on 06/21/2004 9:21:15 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis
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To: Remember_Salamis; Amerigomag

Schwarzenegger makes his entrance on page 10.


2 posted on 06/21/2004 9:33:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The UN's Lakdhar Brahimi in Iraq.


3 posted on 06/21/2004 9:37:01 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

BTTT


4 posted on 06/21/2004 9:48:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

bttt


5 posted on 06/21/2004 10:03:09 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: Remember_Salamis
The Road Map For America

Brought To You By The Democratic Party Of Amerika, Member, Communist Party Internationale

6 posted on 06/21/2004 11:26:33 PM PDT by datura (Battlefield justice is what our enemies deserve. If you win, you live. If you lose, you die.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Think back to a day when a major US media organ would--could--print something like that.

Sadness.


7 posted on 06/22/2004 1:29:07 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Remember_Salamis

Austrian school bump


8 posted on 06/22/2004 1:36:29 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Remember_Salamis
Where in tarnation did you find this?!

I'm sure that ISI, YAF, the Federalist Society or some other organization would love to reprint it if they could secure the rights.

9 posted on 06/22/2004 3:21:35 AM PDT by Huber (WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER; VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Dajjal
Austrian school bump

Don't you mean the Chicago School?

The problem with the cartoon is that it doesn't touch on the most imporant step in the process of becoming serfs. It is the abolition of private property that separates the barriers between person and state.

Once productive assets are confiscated by the state for the 'common good', economics and politics merge. That is why later in the parable, civil disputes become 'crimes' against the state.

10 posted on 06/22/2004 3:40:03 AM PDT by Snerfling
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To: TaxRelief; Tax Deduction 1; taxdeduction2

PING!


11 posted on 06/22/2004 3:50:07 AM PDT by Huber (WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER; VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Snerfling
It is the abolition of private property that separates the barriers between person and state.

Good catch.

I think Dajjal meant a 'pro-Mises' sentiment by saying Austrian School, in opposition to the cartoon.

Of course, the cartoon does depict a certain "Chicago style" mentality, or Berlin, or Mecca, or Beijing...

12 posted on 06/22/2004 3:52:24 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the war. ********** NUKE EM NOW !)
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To: TXFireman

ping


13 posted on 06/22/2004 3:52:57 AM PDT by Jonx6
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To: datura

Democrats--yup. Let's not forget that Nazi stands for 'National Socialist'.


14 posted on 06/22/2004 3:53:24 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the war. ********** NUKE EM NOW !)
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To: Huber

Reference bump


15 posted on 06/22/2004 3:55:14 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: ancient_geezer

Check this out!


16 posted on 06/22/2004 3:55:21 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Don't worry-- Moderate Islam will save us!)
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To: ovrtaxt
the cartoon does depict a certain "Chicago style" mentality, or Berlin, or Mecca, or Beijing...

The most important point Hayek makes is that Nazism wasn't unique to the Germans ie there wasn't (isn't) some inherent evil lying in wait for the proper moment to be released.

No, his central point was that since Germany was the most socially/economically developed country in the world (dating from the 1870s), the citizens were the first people to experience the net result of democratic socialism. (Not to be confused with the Russian revolution.)

Once the essential barriers between people and state were undermined, a Hitler could waltz right in. His warning was to the English (and Americans), who believed it couldn't happen to them.

17 posted on 06/22/2004 4:08:02 AM PDT by Snerfling
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To: Remember_Salamis

Great find, great post, RS.

It is happening in America as we speak.

Right here!

Right now!

Wake up, America!


18 posted on 06/22/2004 4:35:47 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Carry_Okie; hellinahandcart; NYC GOP Chick; cyborg; KLT; Lil'freeper; kristinn; Angelwood

This is worth saving.


19 posted on 06/22/2004 5:12:20 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: Snerfling; Carry_Okie; Jeff Head; Noumenon; hosepipe; Tailgunner Joe; AAABEST; redrock; AuntB; ...

correct.


20 posted on 06/22/2004 5:13:53 AM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: Snerfling

>>Once productive assets are confiscated by the state for the 'common good', economics and politics merge.

Adding up Federal, State, and Local taxes, we're around 50% on a marginal dollar earned.

Scary.


21 posted on 06/22/2004 5:24:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Remember_Salamis

bump


22 posted on 06/22/2004 6:01:00 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Remember_Salamis; Friedrich Hayek
Don't just settle for the cartoon.  The book is fantastic.

I reread it during the reign of the Clintons and feared for what might happen under President Gore.  I'm concerned that some of the powers taken by the Federal government in the War on Terror could come back to hurt us if another Clinton becomes President.

Amazon.com: Books: The Road to Serfdom

23 posted on 06/22/2004 6:24:21 AM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: Snerfling
The problem with the cartoon is that it doesn't touch on the most imporant step in the process of becoming serfs. It is the abolition of private property that separates the barriers between person and state.

In short, this to me looks like the classic Problem-Reaction-Solution paradigm. Governments create a problem, the public reacts to the problem in a predicted way, and clamors for a Solution.

Then Gov't then offers their pre-planned solution.

In the case of this terrific cartoon, there are a number of planned "Problems", each with a solution, which creates even more problems.

This cartoon shows the Problem-Reaction-Solution policy is taken to it's logical extreme.

24 posted on 06/22/2004 6:49:52 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: ActionNewsBill
Governments create a problem, the public reacts to the problem in a predicted way, and clamors for a Solution.

While it is comforting to view our opponents in the most nefarious and cynical light, it actually diverts one's attention from the real threat.

Liberals sincerely believe that capitalism is an inherently flawed and unfair system. They really believe that collective participation (either through ownership, taxes, regulation, etc) in the means of production leads to greater economic AND political freedom.

It's because they are true believers that makes them very dangerous. Hayek also covered this point very well (as did Reagan): how does one oppose something that promises as its central thesis to be humanitarian?

The key was/is to address the inevitable net effect of these programs (the under-the-waterline, hard-to-see results): the erosion of liberty, hence 'The Road to Serfdom'.

25 posted on 06/22/2004 7:59:35 AM PDT by Snerfling
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To: Snerfling

Excellent summary.


26 posted on 06/22/2004 9:14:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: sauropod
Funny how the murder of Vince Foster and its clumsy, inept, but absolutely effective coverup comes back to haunt you. If the murder of the Asst. Attoney General (Vince Foster) can just go away with barely a wimper. Freedom is LONG gone. We've moved on but moved on to what ?,,

The murder ol' Vinny was tracks left by a secretive monster. Still there too. Hiding in the Bushes. The monster has gotten better at not leaving tracks.. Ol' Vinny is calling out from the grave to me.. The lesson of Vince Foster did have an effect on the whole of government. The lesson being if the Asst. Attoney General can get snuffed easily and covered up, WHO ARE YOU?...

Pulled the backbone right out of Kenneth Starr and any republican on the hill.. So much so, Newt'ie exited stage right without the punch line.. just see ya don't want to be ya.. Beggaring a revolution we just might be screwed.. the republicans have taken congress, the presidency and most of the governorships and quite a few of the state legislatures AND STILL socialism moves steadily AHEAD, on schedule..

A mystery ?,,,, Not to me... Vinnys fate was a watershed event in this country. More effort went into purseing the murderer O.J. Simpsons wife, than Vince Foster.. The glass was half empty about Barry Goldwaters time.. I have thrown the empty glass into the fire long ago. Any that say the glass is half full are in denial <<- not a river in Egpyt..

27 posted on 06/22/2004 12:25:15 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Re: your #27

"The republicans have taken congress, the presidency and most of the governorships and quite a few of the state legislatures AND STILL socialism moves steadily AHEAD, on schedule.."

"A mystery ?,,,, Not to me... "

Me either.

28 posted on 06/23/2004 11:50:36 AM PDT by Designer (Sysiphus Sr. to Junior; "It was uphill, all the way, both ways!")
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To: Remember_Salamis
The Road to Serfdom (Link to the Readers' Digest Condensed Version in PDF!)

29 posted on 07/31/2007 9:11:55 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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