Posted on 06/22/2004 1:18:39 AM PDT by sarcasm
Ok, the polls say we're pi$$ed - and I don't mean it in the British way!
But, when will be pi$$ed enough to make our politicians actually hear us?
I live on Long Island. Some businesses are run as legal fronts for these operations. I give the home health agency that fired my mother for example. Completely legal operating businesses but sneaking in Mexican women who will work for the pittance that Americans (or legal immigrants) won't work for. I really do feel sorry for the people who are enslaved though. Not only Mexicans, but Korean girls coming in from Canada who are brought in illegally and then held as sex slaves in massage parlors in NYC.
That is entirely possible. I was looking at it from the employers point of view. They have the necessary documentation.
I agree that indentured servitude is illegal and the family should feel the full brunt of the law in this case.
Illigration, as seen by some, is a victimless crime.
Those who hired those Illegaliens need to be broken and closed down. I believe the article mentioned a "shampoo factory". It's taxpayers who are getting cleaned.
You're right, self-deportations would increase for a while if those felons were rewarded as felons...
"We need to throw most of them out."
I disagree. We need to throw all of them OUT!!! We need to elect a completely new Congress. We need to remove ALL judges and start over with all new ones. I know this will never happen, but that is what is needed to make America better and more effective.
That is not going to happen, we are not going to throw out any politicians, and the politicians aren't going to listen to us.
You see, the GOP leadership knows we'll keep voting for them. If they were to take a firm stance against it, they risk losing a few voters here and there, and after 2000, we can't risk losing any votes.
Believe me, it makes me angry, living in a border state, but the reality is, I have to accept it, because I sure as hell don't want Kerry to win the election.
A while back, my stance was that maybe it would be better if a lot of us voted for somebody other than Bush and throw the election to Kerry, because it might force the GOP to return to its roots in 2008, and get a much more Conservative candidate.
After a lot of thought and discussion here on FR, and reading a lot of other comments, if Bush were to lose, I think we'd get an even more moderate candidate. We just have to suck it up and hope that another 9/11 doesn't happen as a result.
And they're allowed to ply their trade due to the tacit approval of the U.S. government and the people who employ the illegals.
The wonder of Multiculturalism.
I think there are politicians who will see an "opportunity" to grab more power and expand the government payroll. This way they can expand their empires and look like they're doing something. Wouldn't be the first time.
Amityville Horror
If you are down along Clocks Blvd or in one of the older nabe's up near St. Martin's it's pretty nice in a South Shore Norman Rockwell kind of way. But outside those enclaves has always been hard scrabble leaning toward down right ugly and dangerous (Albany Ave.). It is no surprise that this thing went on there, especially if near the next town east, Copaigue, which is now heavily Central American Spanish.
Addendum....Great Neck Road....Ghetto bordering Wyandanch...intersects with afore mentioned Albany Ave...not a nice place.
I wish I had an answer for that one.
There's a few decent Conservatives, like Tom Tancredo, in the Congress. They're in the minority, though.
I just can't bring myself to vote for Bush, again.
Bush has left our borders wide open in spite of 9/11.
If it wasn't for a tip-off from the Russians, we never would have caught these alleged, Somalian, terrorist mall bombers.
I'd rather have 4 years of gridlock than another 4 years of Bush.
I thought of that. There was a case where scores of Asian women were held captive in an apartment complex owned by the slave holders. I believe that this was in Orange County, and there was a sewing factory on the premises. The authorities found out when one escaped. If someone here remembers the story, maybe they can clear up any errors. This happened a couple of years ago.
Now places that contract out with slave holders could be raided. Notice I keep saying slave holders because that is just what they are. Word would certainly get around.
There are many nationalities involved in human trafficking. Slavery and indentured servitude are disgusting practices no matter where it takes place. When it's going on in your own backyard, it's even more horrible.
There is a big difference between an illegal who cleans houses all day, then goes home to her family, and a woman who is locked away in a room to either be prostituted or chained to a sewing machine.
Fox is a vile man. Maybe someone should tell these folks that he works for himself, not for them or their country.
I agree with you using the word "slave".
Down here on the border in South Texas it is common for smugglers (slave traders) to get a slap on the wrist when caught smuggling humans across the border. Regarding the Victoria, Tx incident where people died in the back of an 18 wheeler, the smugglers (slave traders) had records of 3 previous crimes of smuggling. Not once did they face jail time.
This has all be encouraged by the elite politicians in our society.
there is no border security mechanism possible, short of a Berlin wall from California to Texas, that could secure that border from small numbers of terrorists coming across. you can argue for more border security to stop an "en masse" illegal immigration, but to say that we are going to have borders with Mexico (or Canada) that are going to be militarized along their entire length to the point of stopping a small team of terrorists from coming over - its just not possible.
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