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The fall guys: American men take the blame
Spartanburg Herald Journal ^ | June 22, 2004 | Kate Santich

Posted on 06/22/2004 2:31:47 PM PDT by Clear Rivers

By Kate Santich | The Orlando Sentinel

You've seen him in TV commercials. He's the guy who can't open a pickle jar or take care of his kids, the husband raised by wolves, the balding, portly fellow who leaps for joy now that a pill has solved his impotence. He's the one scalded by hot coffee and hit in the crotch with a bowling ball, though he doesn't seem to mind.

In the powerful dominion of television advertising, this hapless, sloppy, beer-drinking punch line is the modern American man.

And critics say he's getting more than his fair share of abuse.

"If anything like this was happening to blacks or women or Jews, it would be considered a moral crime," says Warren Farrell, a California author and men's rights advocate. "We're being flooded with advertising in which either a male is being hit by a female, or the man is simply the jerk."

Farrell, author of "The Myth of Male Power," is one of a small but growing number of men -- and a few women -- protesting what they consider sexist, stereotypical and even mean-spirited ads. Male-bashing, they claim, is the last politically safe perversion.

"At this point in time, if advertisers served up women the same way that guys are treated, it would be world war," says Steve Feinberg, chief creative officer at the Seiden Group, a New York ad agency. "Advertising has cycled its way through that. Right up through the early 1980s, (the message to women) was 'Spend all day obsessing over whether you have the right toilet bowl cleaner, because that's how you define yourself.' But you can't do that anymore."

Late last year, a 40-year-old New Hampshire engineer and father named Richard Smaglick launched the Society for the Prevention of Misandry in the Media -- misandry being the seldom-heard counterpart to misogyny. Among his first efforts was a boycott of the clients of advertising giant Saatchi & Saatchi because of a spot it produced for Wyeth FluMist. In the ad, we see Mom laid up in bed, felled by the virus, and Dad in charge of the household -- much to the glee of the kids, who march off to school in a snowstorm dressed as if for a luau. Alas, poor Dad can't manage his own children.

On a Web site for the Men's Activism News Network (MANN), readers have compiled a list of companies to boycott for their allegedly male-bashing ads. Ironically, the list includes perhaps the ultimate macho-man vehicle, the Hummer, which aired a spot showing a woman behind the wheel and a tagline that read: "Threaten men in a whole new way."

Imagine the fallout, a man said in a post, if the roles were reversed, and a man were encouraged to "threaten women in a whole new way."

It's a point well-taken, says Matt Campbell, one of the site's administrators. "To get a sense of why there is a group of men finding the state of affairs so outrageous, just switch the gender roles for a minute and see if it would still be funny. Imagine having a laugh track when a woman's genitals are attacked."

Ironically, most of the offending ads are created by men.

"They think it's their way to be feminists. They think women want to see men as dogs and pigs, and everybody can have a good laugh," says Barbara Lippert, critic for the trade publication Adweek.

And if there hasn't been an outcry until now, some advocates say, it's only because men who complain are labeled wimps. Their masculinity is questioned. But until large numbers do protest, until companies are hit in the pocketbook, they're not likely to change.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: feminism; males; men; misandry; women
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Something to think about.
1 posted on 06/22/2004 2:31:50 PM PDT by Clear Rivers
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To: Clear Rivers

Homer Simpson ??


2 posted on 06/22/2004 2:33:11 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Clear Rivers

No wonder more American men are finding foreign women attractive.


3 posted on 06/22/2004 2:33:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Clear Rivers

It's obvious why they get away with it. Men don't whine all day about how they're being portrayed, because we're too busy doing useful stuff.

Flame on.


4 posted on 06/22/2004 2:35:16 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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To: Clear Rivers
National
Organization of

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Mastery.

5 posted on 06/22/2004 2:35:43 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Clear Rivers
... most of the offending ads are created by men.

Metrosexuals, most likely.

6 posted on 06/22/2004 2:37:01 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Clear Rivers
It doesn't stop just at gender but race too.

Example, the Hertz rental car comercial where the black guy standing in line berates the white guy who is angry at having to stand in a long line.

I am quickly converging to the point of totally yanking all commercial television programming.

7 posted on 06/22/2004 2:37:04 PM PDT by lormand (Save the Whales? Call a Democrat! Save the World? Call the Republicans)
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To: Clear Rivers

The thing is - women don't need men... They can buy frozen sperm on internet !


8 posted on 06/22/2004 2:39:01 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Clear Rivers

Good post !


9 posted on 06/22/2004 2:39:07 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Clear Rivers

This is why I TiVo everything I watch. I skip over all of the man-bashing commercials.


10 posted on 06/22/2004 2:40:31 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Clear Rivers
Throw your TV set out. Take the enormous amounts of time and money you would have spent on cable/satellite and live a real life with it.

Television is a massive insult to the intellect to anyone with an IQ higher than room temp. The only power these TV execs have is the power you give them. Boycott them (like many 18-45 year old males are) and what they think or do becomes meaningless.

A thought just occured to me - perhaps the male bashing seen so frequently is in response to viewer demographics - men aren't watching (or buying sponsor's products), and catering to the easily influenced Oprah crowd means lots of advertising $$$$ ?

11 posted on 06/22/2004 2:40:34 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I did and have never regreted it!
12 posted on 06/22/2004 2:41:32 PM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: Clear Rivers
Whenever my wife and I are watching TV, we always wait to see how long it will be before a commercial comes on in which a white guy (sometimes it's a woman) plays a dimwitted incompetent who is shown up/corrected/enlightened by a woman/black/Hispanic.

When it inevitably happens, we look at each other and say "Boy those, stupid white people!"

13 posted on 06/22/2004 2:41:54 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

LOL ...Thanks folks.


14 posted on 06/22/2004 2:46:45 PM PDT by Clear Rivers
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To: DuncanWaring
"They think it's their way to be feminists. They think women want to see men as dogs and pigs, and everybody can have a good laugh," says Barbara Lippert, critic for the trade publication Adweek.

I thought it was monkeys and pigs.

15 posted on 06/22/2004 2:46:55 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: wideawake

Pleeeazzzze you mean women... stop making fun of us men....purty please? whaaaah, sniffle....

great way to attract women huh?


16 posted on 06/22/2004 2:47:22 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit (music, music and more music)
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To: Squawk 8888
I'm with you!

This kind of crap doesn't bother me because I am able to laugh at myself. I don't have a chip on my shoulder and don't view myself as a victim.

17 posted on 06/22/2004 2:50:02 PM PDT by OSHA (This is a loaner. My real tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Clear Rivers

We are the last people left on earth, who are mature enough mentally and secure enough in our image of ourselves that we can not only laugh at our selves, but not be offended because others laugh along. We are setting an example for those insecure, whiney, hung upon self, picked on feeling, poor me spewing, demanding unearned respect, pathetic critters to follow, assuming by some miracle they ever grow a spine and reach some similence of maturity.

As long as they are busy laughing at us (their superiors in everyway) they won't have time to blame our successes for their failures.


18 posted on 06/22/2004 2:51:19 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Let Kerry be Kerry -what the hell else is he good for? -but let Bush be President.)
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To: DuncanWaring

What was Al Bundy's men's group called?


19 posted on 06/22/2004 2:54:00 PM PDT by churchillbuff (q)
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To: Clear Rivers

Hello?! I would be TOTALLY lost without my husband. We both need to work full time and he is right in there being domestic. We both do laundry, clean house, change diapers, check homework, shop, cook, etc. My husband is a blessing and I pray I won't ever have to do it without him. We make an amazing team!


20 posted on 06/22/2004 2:56:12 PM PDT by ninergold3 ( The LORD watches over all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy. Psalm 145:20)
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To: Clear Rivers

Men don't care. We're too busy carrying the ball.


21 posted on 06/22/2004 2:56:25 PM PDT by wtc911 (moderate islam is the swamp where evil festers)
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To: Clear Rivers

I am not a victim, and I will especially never be a victim of the effette, metrosexual, cake-boys that run the media.

I don't give a damn how often Hollyweird or Madison Ave. types portray straight, white, males as the root of all evil, corruption, ineptitude, etc., because I know they are using cameras, and lenses, and film, and videotape equipment, and audio recording equipment, and broadcast equipment, and television sets, all of which were envisioned, designed, and built by straight, white, males.

They bash us because they love us, and they know they wouldn't be $h!t without us.


22 posted on 06/22/2004 2:56:55 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: Clear Rivers
I remember reading maybe a few years ago the Philadelphia Inquirer had an article on why it seems women attending college have serious difficulties getting dates with men. The article points out that because men are so afraid of women threatening a sexual harassment lawsuit at a drop of the hat, no wonder why this has become a problem.

It's this male-bashing that is causing a lot of unnecessary antagonism between genders.

23 posted on 06/22/2004 3:00:22 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Clear Rivers
For the past month, a group of us idiot men have gutted a medical center suite and have built it back from an empty shell. Every trade has applied skill to the task of building a large, state-of-the-art medical office. These are skilled, good men who work hard.

The medical office personnel who will occupy the space (women) walk in regularly and marvel at what we have built.

On the way to work, I drive by an enormous new elevated freeway interchange also being built by idiot men.

While we are talking about idiot men, I'd like to bring up my favorite fact. Women suffered sagging breasts for thousands of years until a MAN finally designed and built them the first bra.

I'm sick to death at men being put down. We built the whole civilized world and damn near every convenience whining women rely upon to avoid the backbreaking work of their ancestors.

I say ship them off to their own continent. A continent of nothing but whining, self-absorbed women would be at each other's throats within days.

24 posted on 06/22/2004 3:00:39 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Squawk 8888

"Men don't whine all day about how they're being portrayed, because we're too busy doing useful stuff."

We've also kept our sense of humor and may be the last social group on earth that is willing to laugh at itself. Flame on, indeed.


25 posted on 06/22/2004 3:02:31 PM PDT by Spok (Just Curious)
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To: Clear Rivers

My favorite are the Expedia.com ads - the contrast between the sniveling, simpering pathetic males and the strong, decisive, self assured females in those ads is unequaled.


26 posted on 06/22/2004 3:03:46 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Clear Rivers

Someone is just NOW noticing this? Been true for a long time. Someone has just now developed the cojones to say something.

Turn the TV off and have a real life. Hollywood, you're fired.


27 posted on 06/22/2004 3:05:47 PM PDT by LouisWu
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To: traumer
They can buy frozen sperm on internet !

Yeah, but even that's got to come from somewhere...

28 posted on 06/22/2004 3:06:23 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Clear Rivers
Ironically, most of the offending ads are created by men.

I have 50 bucks that says most of the offending ads are created by homosexual men.

I think the Progressive ads are particularly vitriolic against men.  They are not funny.

So far as I can tell, the only company that had a clue about this type of BS was Dell.....when they ran their "Intern" series of ads they would alternate between making the boys look stupid and the girls looking stupid.

That was savvy enough that I noticed it.

29 posted on 06/22/2004 3:06:46 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Clear Rivers

Obviously, there's a conditioning process going on with these idiotic commercials we see on the idiot box and that is the incessant message that if someone's going to do something goofy, politically incorrect, and generally foolish it's most likely going to be a white guy. Likewise, the cool-headed, all knowing antithesis of the dimbulb white guy is either a woman or black (M or F) and it seems as though the intended effect is to leave the current generation of young TV watchers that what they see on a commercial is real life when nothing could be further from the truth.

Being a businessman, I've been very fortunate to work with several hardworking, bright women and blacks but I know for a fact that as a group, white males are still dominant in business because of the work ethic and values brought to the marketplace. A lot of factors contribute to this situation (which can be debated ad nauseum) but in my estimation white males need to re-discover who they really are as well as their heritage and histroy.



30 posted on 06/22/2004 3:09:13 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Junior

Well, I know that... I was just trying to make a point how feminists view men and the world.


31 posted on 06/22/2004 3:10:41 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

I know, but when I read the comment, I thought about where the stuff comes from, and how they get it, which often requires props (read "porn"), which itself often depicts women being subservient to male desires. Talk about the irony!


32 posted on 06/22/2004 3:16:36 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: churchillbuff
What was Al Bundy's men's group called?

Don't know, But the little rascals had the "He-Man Women Haters Club."

33 posted on 06/22/2004 3:16:36 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: ninergold3
We make an amazing team!

Therein lies the rub. Couples should act like a team because it's the best way to accomplish your goals. However, many women have never been exposed to team activities in their youth as most men are. It has taken me ten years to get my wife to understand the concept of team work. Sure she's been on a team at work, but it didn't prepare her for the close dependencies we share when we are equals.

She always thought of us as two - rather than one. Now, through some tough times, she has started to understand that the whole is bigger than the sum of the parts. The part is in the whole and the whole is in the part. Now that this is understood, our relationship has grown to proportions I had never imagined.

34 posted on 06/22/2004 3:17:21 PM PDT by numberonepal (John Kerry has missed 2/3 of his Senate votes since starting his campaign.)
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To: skeeter

There is a Mike's hard lemonade commercial (I think that is the name) that makes me crack up because it is so ridiculous.

Some player kind of guy walks by an attractive blonde sitting at the bar talking with (presumably) her date. He does this three times saying rather cheesy pickup lines each time. On the third occasion, the guy finally grows a pair and says "Alright, you have to the count of three ..." but before he can finish, the woman has head-butted the boor. And they both go back to sippin their hard lemonade. Yeah, like I am going to believe that would be possible in real life.

I guess this group already has a discussion of that commercial.

http://www.mensactivism.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/30/0410234&mode=flat


35 posted on 06/22/2004 3:17:34 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: Clear Rivers
Saw an ad for an internet service the other night. Wife was sitting at the computer talking about how valuable it was. In the background, Cuddly Ole Doofus hubby was up on a ladder (a sure sign of disaster for the modern man). Sure enough, he comes a-tumblin' down into the bushes, while long-suffering wife hits the 'net for some home medical advice.

Ha ha.

Seconds later, Doof is at it again, this time spraying a hornet's nest with the garden hose. D'oh! But Wife saves the day with her quick thinking, her maternal patience, and her internet provider.

Yuk yuk.

I wouldn't buy that internet service if I had to FReep with two tin cans and a string!

36 posted on 06/22/2004 3:18:37 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: american spirit
Likewise, the cool-headed, all knowing antithesis of the dimbulb white guy is either a woman or black (M or F)

Notice how a lot of the judges on TV dramas are black women?

37 posted on 06/22/2004 3:22:39 PM PDT by churchillbuff (q)
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To: DuncanWaring
Metrosexuals, most likely.

I'd guess homosexuals, actually. The same ones that are convincing women they need to look like pretty little boys.
38 posted on 06/22/2004 3:22:52 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Send them to Russia where they would learn to appreciate America, and American men. Bring the Russian women here who would appreciate a good American man.


39 posted on 06/22/2004 3:24:06 PM PDT by gawatchman
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
No wonder more American men are finding foreign women attractive.

Quote of the day.

40 posted on 06/22/2004 3:24:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Clear Rivers

Ever notice it's always the white guy who's the moron?


41 posted on 06/22/2004 3:24:50 PM PDT by MattinNJ (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.)
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To: IronJack

I like the mini-van commercial where the guy can't figure out how to fold down a baby carriage so it fits in the back, while his wife completely readjusts the interior seats. Once she is done she comes back to rescue her (apparently) clueless husband, readjusts the seats again so the carriage can fit without having to be folded down, then says something like "Hon? You comin'" as the man looks on like the proverbial open-mouthed fool.

Uh-huh.


42 posted on 06/22/2004 3:25:11 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: MattinNJ

Well sometimes its a black guy, like in a SW airlines commercial where one black guy is painting his house, but is inside taking a break, and his neighbor (also black) comes out with a leaf blower and covers the newly painted side of the house with grass clippings and leafs.

But it's almost always a man that looks stupid.


43 posted on 06/22/2004 3:27:42 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: Clear Rivers

IMneverHO

The worst offenders are the "Ad Council".
Their anti-white ads show a white guy using many foreign accents to try and rent an apartment.
In the ad, every culture is discriminated against until he makes the call as a white guy.

This is not even thinly veiled.


44 posted on 06/22/2004 3:28:17 PM PDT by Hermes37 (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!)
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To: Clear Rivers
My father and I have each noticed this for a long time now, and we frequently comment on how sleazy and stupid these ads are whenever we're watching TV together. And since almost all we watch is Football, Fox News or NASCAR, apparently there's no escaping all this feminazi-inspired trash, anywhere.

What makes it even crazier is that Dad and I are both in the communications business: he's in advertising and I'm in marketing! The usual line is "wouldn't you hate to be the [whatever] who came up with that one!!!"

45 posted on 06/22/2004 3:29:53 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (Real men trust Jesus!)
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To: Betis70
the mini-van commercial

I know the one you're talking about. Maybe I'm stereotyping, but I've been married to two women. One could barely find her a$$ with an Indian guide. The other couldn't.

46 posted on 06/22/2004 3:30:13 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: churchillbuff

Yeah, I can see how a young 10 yr. old kid that's addicted to certain TV shows would tend to believe that black females (especially Oprah) are totally ominpotent creatures. Kinda makes one wonder what effects this conditioning will have on their thought processes as they enter into adulthood and why is this happening?


47 posted on 06/22/2004 3:31:08 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Clear Rivers
You've seen him in TV commercials. He's the guy who can't open a pickle jar or take care of his kids, the husband raised by wolves, the balding, portly fellow who leaps for joy now that a pill has solved his impotence. He's the one scalded by hot coffee and hit in the crotch with a bowling ball, though he doesn't seem to mind.

Holy cow!!! I've been complaining about this for years! Just look at any commercial, or TV show, for that matter. Almost EVERY time a man is on TV, he's a bumbling, stumbling moron. And lo and behold, there's always a woman that has to come to his rescue.

48 posted on 06/22/2004 3:31:09 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; WesternPacific
No wonder more American men are finding foreign women attractive.

You've got that right.

Happily married abroad in 1997.

49 posted on 06/22/2004 3:34:33 PM PDT by angkor
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

>> Almost EVERY time a man is on TV, he's a bumbling, stumbling moron.

"Everyone Loves Raymond" comes to mind. Same with that other CBS show with the UPS driver guy--"King of Queens" is it? I've only seen a couple of reruns.


50 posted on 06/22/2004 3:35:06 PM PDT by Betis70
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