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Live babies being born after abortions
UK Evening Standard ^ | 6/22/04 | Rebecca Smith

Posted on 06/22/2004 5:45:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

Leading doctors today called for a major overhaul to avoid babies being born alive after abortions.

Pregnancy expert Professor Stuart Campbell has demanded rules should be tightened after it was revealed that at least nine babies are known to have survived terminations in recent years.

He said injections that were supposed to end their lives in the womb failed to do so - and he called for stricter regulations to be enforced on the methods of abortion.

Professor Campbell said that all abortions carried out after 18 weeks of pregnancy should include an injection, followed by drugs, to induce labour and a stillborn child.

Some consultants only give the injection in abortions after 22 weeks. Others, he claims, do not use it at all.

Professor Campbell, who worked as an obstetrician at St George's Hospital-Tooting, and pioneered 4D scanning of babies in the womb at the Create Health Centre for Reproduction and Advanced Technology in London, said: "It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth.

"If after 18 weeks you just induce labour (without an injection first) a large number would be born with a heartbeat and most of them will survive with a heartbeat and will make movements.

"Certainly from 18 weeks they should inject the heart to stop it from beating, but not everyone does this. Guidance should be given by the Royal College.

"There are cases where the injection does not work but this is very rare."

One baby with Down's Syndrome was to be aborted at a hospital in the home counties but lived. It was transferred to St George's Hospital, where it received neonatal intensive care and survived. It is believed to have been adopted.

Next week a motion is being tabled at the British Medical Association conference that babies should be entitled to all the intensive care that babies born prematurely receive. Consultant obstetrician-Jim Thornton said in the past babies were born alive after abortion more regularly but "people didn't make a fuss and pretended not to realise the baby was born alive".

He said that if a baby were to be born alive and viable then it must be given medical help but there was a "grey area" where babies born in this manner at 22 or 23 weeks were on the cusp of being able to survive. Only 17 per cent of babies born normally at 23 weeks survive.

Professor Thornton, of City Hospital, Nottingham, said: "Once it is born, you can't kill the baby but the law doesn't say anything about to what degree you resuscitate it.

"The way it is dealt with is by sensible doctors and sensible nurses keeping it under their hat and allowing the baby to pass away peacefully."

Professor Campbell does not believe that a baby born in this way should be kept alive at all costs.

"What paediatricians do is spend resources keeping a baby that is going to die, alive. It is absolute nonsense. It does show that is up to us (obstetricians) to make sure the baby is not moving."

Guidance issued by the Royal College of Obstetrics and Gynaecologists states that a legal abortion must not be allowed to result in a live birth.

But Professor Campbell says it does not make clear at what stage it is necessary to stop the heartbeat before abortion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionismurder; attrocity; birth; childbirth; denyassistance; england; euthenasia; evil; holocaust; infanticide; liveabortion; murder; notjusttissue; sick; stopabeatingheart; uk; ukabortion
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To: wagglebee

"It was transferred ..... where it .... It is believed to have been adopted."

This baby is not an "IT"!!

Babies are "he" and "she."

Dehumanization is necessary - Proof that the author knows "it" is wrong.


21 posted on 06/22/2004 6:24:16 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: wagglebee
Who would want any of these jackals delivering their children?
22 posted on 06/22/2004 6:29:28 PM PDT by pubmom
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To: wagglebee
"A baby with Downs Syndrome was to be aborted at a home hospital in the counties, but lived. It was transferred to St. George's Hospital where it received neonatal intensive care and survived. It is beleived to have been adopted.

"in the past babies were born alive after abortion more regularly, but people didn't make a fuss and pretended not to realise the baby was born alive"

"Once it is born , you can't kill the baby"

"The way it is dealt with, is by sensible doctors and nurses keeping it under their hat, and allowing the baby the baby to pass away peacefully"

Abortion is not murder.
It's a blob of tissue.
Abortion is not murder.
It's a blob of tissue.
Abortion is not murder.
It's a blob of tissue.
Abortion is not murder......

Just keep telling yourselves that Pro Choice movement.

23 posted on 06/22/2004 6:31:16 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party- Save USA,-Vote a Dem out of office)
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To: wagglebee

This should be easy to fix.

Inject the doctor.


24 posted on 06/22/2004 6:41:36 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: wagglebee

I agree with everything you say
but let's pass a law that says
"All abortions must be done without charge"
And see what happens to the abortion industry.


25 posted on 06/22/2004 6:43:50 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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To: wagglebee
"The way it is dealt with is by sensible doctors and sensible nurses keeping it under their hat and allowing the baby to pass away peacefully."

Since when is it "sensible" to allow a baby to die? What bastards.

26 posted on 06/22/2004 6:43:52 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: wagglebee
allowing the baby to pass away peacefully

There's nothing peaceful about murder. And what is this "allowing" bs? That baby lived in spite of you and your evil. He/she deserves to live.

I always believed that people could justify their pro-abortion position up to the point when they had their own babies. After that, you either love babies, born and unborn, or you are a heartless, selfish and unloving person.

27 posted on 06/22/2004 6:45:16 PM PDT by kdot
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To: big'ol_freeper
"It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth."

Yep, there's your lunacy. I wonder if it ever crosses any of their minds how unfair it is to the baby?

28 posted on 06/22/2004 6:45:17 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: wagglebee

How dare these children fight to live and make the Mom , and nurses feel bad. As a mother and a nurse this sickens and insults me.


29 posted on 06/22/2004 6:51:28 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: wagglebee
Professor Thornton, of City Hospital, Nottingham, said: "Once it is born, you can't kill the baby but the law doesn't say anything about to what degree you resuscitate it.

"The way it is dealt with is by sensible doctors and sensible nurses keeping it under their hat and allowing the baby to pass away peacefully."

So much for it just being "tissue" and not a person. So much effort to deny a baby life.

Why doesn't the article address how much or little this complication affected the woman's life? After all, we are told that it is a woman's choice to murder her baby because pregnancy complicates her life.

One of the babies was adopted, how many of the mothers changed their minds and kept the children?

31 posted on 06/22/2004 6:58:44 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: wagglebee
"It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth."

I think they should send a video tape home with the parents. That way they can show it to all their friends who are considering an abortion to show that it is indeed a baby and not some inanimate grouping of cells.
33 posted on 06/22/2004 7:23:24 PM PDT by wmichgrad
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To: wagglebee

Aborticiders are no better than Mohomocowardens.


34 posted on 06/22/2004 7:24:31 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (I DO NOT BRAKE FOR MOHOMOCOWARDENS)
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To: lizma
Planned Parenthood's total income for 2002-2003 was $766.6 million.

I think you need to brush up on your accounting. PP's 2002-2003 income was $36.6 million (and $12.2 million the year before).

http://www.conservativenews.org/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200312%5CNAT20031212a.html

35 posted on 06/22/2004 7:28:54 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: wagglebee
"The way it is dealt with is by sensible doctors and sensible nurses keeping it under their hat and allowing the baby to pass away peacefully."

Peacefully? PEACEFULLY? You've just ripped the baby out of his womb after trying to murder him! HOW IS THAT PASSING AWAY PEACEFULLY?
36 posted on 06/22/2004 7:29:44 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: ApesForEvolution

At least the islamofascists have the b*lls to admit they hate us, the baby butchers ramble on about "choices". Bullsh!t, choices are something on a restaurant menu.


37 posted on 06/22/2004 7:30:53 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Hey, here's an idea. Don't murder the babies!


38 posted on 06/22/2004 7:31:19 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: wagglebee
How much longer will we stand and stare at the gates of many Auswitch camps and ignore what is happening inside?

Ironic how the liberal descendants of the Jews incinerated in WWII now seem to think infanticide [and nazi gun control] is ok.
Astounding is too mild a word for such willful ignorance
39 posted on 06/22/2004 7:32:23 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Sofa King
HOLD IT. Let's get real here.

Peacefully? PEACEFULLY? You've just dismembered and burned the baby with saline solution before ripping the baby out of his womb. HOW IS THAT PASSING AWAY PEACEFULLY

NOW it is factually correct.

Cheers

40 posted on 06/22/2004 7:35:13 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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