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Dangerous Police Pursuit, LAPD Investigates Officer Use of Force (with video)
KABC Channel 7 Website ^ | 6/23/2004 | KABC Channel 7

Posted on 06/23/2004 2:55:18 PM PDT by Smogger

LOS ANGELES — Police today chased a man suspected of driving a stolen car and arrested him in Compton, and news footage showed an LAPD officer hitting him repeatedly with a flashlight after he appeared to surrender

The chase began shortly after 5 a.m. in an area patrolled by the Los Angeles Police Department's Southeast Station, said LAPD Officer Sandra Escalante of the Media Relations office. The man's name was not immediately released, and it was unclear if he was injured.

Patrolling LAPD officers saw a white Toyota Camry that was reported stolen from Compton, Escalante said, adding that the officers tried in vain to pull the vehicle over.

The pursuit reportedly ended on Caldwell Street in Compton, where the man got out and ran off.

Eyewitness News aired footage shot from a helicopter that showed the man running down a grassy area near the Compton Creek. He stopped, got down on his hands and knees and appeared to surrender to an officer.

Several other officers then ran up and the man was forced face down onto the ground, where one of the officers struck at the man's upper body at least 10 times with a long flashlight.

Reportedly, one officer told a local news station that the man had been resisting.

The footage was eerily similar to the infamous video of the beating of Rodney King in 1991, which also happened at the end of a nighttime LAPD pursuit. King was struck dozens of times by officers using batons after he led them on a chase that began in the LAPD's Foothill Station jurisdiction. Video shot by an amateur cameraman and broadcast worldwide showed officers striking and kicking King. Officers were later acquitted by a Simi Valley jury in connection with the beating, triggering the 1992 Los Angeles riots.

The officers were subsequently convicted of federal charges.

Today's incident came only days after the LAPD entered a two-year period during which it must show substantial compliance with a raft of reforms mandated under a consent degree agreement reached by the city of Los Angeles and the U.S. Justice Department in 2001.

If it fails to demonstrate compliance, federal monitoring of the LAPD will continue beyond the two-year period.

The city agreed to the consent decree as a way of staving off a federal lawsuit after the Justice Department reported that it had identified a "pattern and practice" of civil rights violations by the LAPD.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: abuse; compton; excessiveforce; lapd; losangeles; police; rodneyking
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1 posted on 06/23/2004 2:55:18 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

oops.. forgot the link to the video:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/video/062304_CaughtOnTape.html


2 posted on 06/23/2004 2:55:50 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

Going to be on Hannity and Colmes tonight too at 9pm est


3 posted on 06/23/2004 2:56:29 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Smogger

I saw this this am. he obviously was exrememly upset. One officer pushed him to the fence, and was talking to him. He paced around trying to compose himself. they got the guy up and he did the spread eagle etc without a problem.


4 posted on 06/23/2004 2:59:43 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Smogger
Reportedly, one officer told a local news station that the man had been resisting.

Note the weak press cannot bring itself to identify the officer caught in a bald lie.

5 posted on 06/23/2004 3:00:06 PM PDT by eno_
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To: marty60

Yeah. It's difficult to say for sure, but it sure looks like the first officer had things well in hand (suspect prone, hands behind back, maybe even cuffed) when this second officer just ran up and started beating the guy with his flashlight.


6 posted on 06/23/2004 3:02:16 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: marty60

Yeah, looks like in this video that the guy stopped and got down on the ground before he was even touched. Hard to tell, though, I've seen suspects on COPS get sqirrley once the cuffs start going on.


7 posted on 06/23/2004 3:06:43 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Smogger
The perp was standing at the end of it so it couldn't have been too bad.

Some license has to be given to cops who've been in a dangerous pursuit and finally catch their perp. I don't mean to say they can whip the punk but you do have to allow for the infusion of adrenaline in those situations.

8 posted on 06/23/2004 3:06:59 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Smogger
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...what....huh....Did they put panties on his head???........Bush ordered it!!........ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Pray for W and Our Troops

9 posted on 06/23/2004 3:07:13 PM PDT by bray (Let's win one more for the Gipper)
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To: Smogger
The footage was eerily similar to the infamous video of the beating of Rodney King in 1991...

Only to those trying to sensationalize this story.

10 posted on 06/23/2004 3:09:54 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Smogger

Do we know for sure it was a flashlight?

I saw the entire chase and takedown on FOX this morning.
I thought the black instrument was one of those rubber
slap sticks, or whatever they call them.
I looked strange that even when the guy was down
on the ground, there was some indication that he was strongly resisting, as the police had to keep piling on.
It looked like quite a strugle for an unusual length of time.


11 posted on 06/23/2004 3:13:49 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: mvpel
He stopped and put his hands up, the perp started to get on his knees and the cop holstered his gun. Then he ran and jumped on him. then a number 4 or 5 joined him. The cop everyone is discussing came up last. all of a sudden he pulled something (nightstick, flashlight) and started hitting at what looked like his middle area. Since he was straddling his head it had to be further down. Then another cop push him to the fence and started talking to him. That's when he paced and got control of himself.

I guess the other cops had a hard time doing their job with him swinging the "flashlight"

12 posted on 06/23/2004 3:15:35 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Smogger
My dad used to tell me that rape was almost never prosecuted in 1930's Cleveland Ohio. The police would just take the perp out behind the station house and beat the tar out of them.

Seemed to work pretty well.
13 posted on 06/23/2004 3:16:19 PM PDT by FoxPro (jroehl2@yahoo.com)
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To: AlexW
I looked strange that even when the guy was down on the ground, there was some indication that he was strongly resisting, as the police had to keep piling on. It looked like quite a strugle for an unusual length of time.

You should take another look. No one "piles on" the guy goes down one cop climbs on to cuff him, and one cop just runs up and starts beating him for no reason (apparent on the tape). The two other cops just stand and watch. Didn't look like much of a struggle to me.

14 posted on 06/23/2004 3:18:00 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: marty60
I guess the other cops had a hard time doing their job with him swinging the "flashlight"

That was my impression too.

15 posted on 06/23/2004 3:19:54 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

No your wrong, after the original cop jumped on him four or five came in to help.


16 posted on 06/23/2004 3:20:44 PM PDT by marty60
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To: TankerKC

If it's a slow news day and something good happens, then they'll sensationalize it for all its worth.


17 posted on 06/23/2004 3:21:34 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: thegreatbeast
Some license has to be given to cops who've been in a dangerous pursuit and finally catch their perp. I don't mean to say they can whip the punk but you do have to allow for the infusion of adrenaline in those situations

BS. If the cop can't control himself under stress, he should be in another profession. Can you imagine an idiot like this walking around with a loaded gun? All he did was cost the city a lot of money today. He makes the perp look like the smart one and insulted the cops who are true professionals

18 posted on 06/23/2004 3:22:34 PM PDT by paul51
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To: marty60
No your wrong, after the original cop jumped on him four or five came in to help.

No your wrong. Two cops are on the guy while a third guy just runs up, kicks him in the head, and beats him with whatever (flashlight?). The other two cops didn't participate at all.

19 posted on 06/23/2004 3:26:48 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

I would imagine that the guy was refusing to give the officers his name....


20 posted on 06/23/2004 3:27:29 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Better fight the WOT in the Iraqi "holy" city of Najaf, than in the American holy city of New York.)
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To: Smogger

I watched it as it was happening. Different time zone. Becareful of edited video. They all jumped on him to help the original cop.


21 posted on 06/23/2004 3:30:02 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Smogger

This guy was not resisting arrest. This is going to cost the city a bunch of money.


22 posted on 06/23/2004 3:30:12 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Smogger
I watched it live on Fox & Friends, you could see an investigation coming, the hosts of Fox & Friends said Uh-oh when the cop started to slam the guy.

I also notice one of the cops grab ahold of the guy hitting him and push him away.

23 posted on 06/23/2004 3:31:16 PM PDT by mware
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To: marty60
I watched it as it was happening. Different time zone. Becareful of edited video. They all jumped on him to help the original cop.

I watched it in it's entirety. Maybe you should take another look.

24 posted on 06/23/2004 3:32:29 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger

They're screwed. The suspect hit the ground.


25 posted on 06/23/2004 3:33:02 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: Smogger

Police going on high speed chases is dangerous enough for the public, then they can't even do their job right by simply arresting the guy. What heroes.


26 posted on 06/23/2004 3:33:29 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Smogger
Fox News carried the action live this morning. I could not believe the cops beat this guy up knowing they were being watched. It was real obvious that one cop was very angry with this guy. He beat him with a flash light until another cop grabbed him and pulled him away.
Stuff like this is what really give cops a bad name. This beating was totally unnecessary.
27 posted on 06/23/2004 3:35:32 PM PDT by devane617
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To: bray

I'd rather wear panties on my head rather than having no head at all!


28 posted on 06/23/2004 3:35:53 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: FoxPro

>>My dad used to tell me that rape was almost never prosecuted in 1930's Cleveland Ohio. The police would just take the perp out behind the station house and beat the tar out of them.

Seemed to work pretty well.<<

Effective and surprisingly inexpensive.

And an excellent stress reliever to boot.


29 posted on 06/23/2004 3:36:24 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: FoxPro

The old-timers around here talk about the days when the sheriff would just shoot vagrants at the edge of town and dump their bodies down old abandoned mine shafts.


30 posted on 06/23/2004 3:38:07 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
It's hard to see much detail about the criminal from the tape, but if I heard the story right, the car was stolen and the chase ended in Compton, CA, which if I recall correctly is largely black section of greater Los Angeles.

Because of the Rodney King incident, this could end up being another flashpoint if the criminal is black and the police are perceived as trying to cover up the incident. The Rodney King riots didn't occur until the police officers were acquitted of that beating in the state courts, so if it's an analogy, there is plenty of time to defuse the situation.

31 posted on 06/23/2004 3:52:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: FoxPro

And he probably deserved the beatdown.
But he should of had twenty years or so tacked onto the street justice rather than send him home to do it again in the future.
Riverman


32 posted on 06/23/2004 3:57:17 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Smogger

The guy got smacked 10 times,

but more importantly the news video replay is one of the clearest I've seen on the web. Bravo KABC, for web clarity!

Now back to our story-

Take the cops flashlight batteries away for 1 week and make him wear pink panties on his head for 2. That'll teach him!!


33 posted on 06/23/2004 4:32:22 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: mware
I also notice one of the cops grab ahold of the guy hitting him and push him away.

And how did this guy not remember that the heli would be taping his every move? Idiot.

34 posted on 06/23/2004 5:01:29 PM PDT by pickemuphere
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To: Smogger

"Can't we all just get along?"


35 posted on 06/23/2004 6:50:51 PM PDT by Imal (To be "neutral" in the War on Terrorism is to side with terrorism.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Take the cops flashlight batteries away for 1 week and make him wear pink panties on his head for 2. That'll teach him!!

In _this_ case, let the perp kick and hammer 'flashlight boy' a dozen times, without restraint or retribution. That'll teach all the other doughnut-eaters a lesson - and maybe give 'em an opportunity get together, dress-up for the TV cameras, meet old friends, black bands over their tin stars, the same old stuff...

36 posted on 06/23/2004 7:14:13 PM PDT by solitas ("HA HA!" (Nelson Muntz))
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To: Smogger

"If the police have to chase you, they are bringing an ass-kicking with them"....Chris Rock


39 posted on 06/23/2004 7:58:30 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: solitas

See post # 39.

<|:-)~~


40 posted on 06/23/2004 8:00:23 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: Ursa63

Next time someone robs you, call a hippie.


41 posted on 06/23/2004 8:00:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Ursa63
Thugs and bullies seek police jobs.

The dumbest remark of the day.

42 posted on 06/23/2004 8:00:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: AppyPappy
"If the police have to chase you, they are bringing an ass-kicking with them"....Chris Rock

That's pretty much the case.

And the only ones who make you chase them are perps with mile-long rap sheets.

43 posted on 06/23/2004 8:02:03 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur

Yet another Internet Hero opining for our benefit.


44 posted on 06/23/2004 8:02:30 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: solitas
In _this_ case, let the perp kick and hammer 'flashlight boy' a dozen times, without restraint or retribution. That'll teach all the other doughnut-eaters a lesson - and maybe give 'em an opportunity get together, dress-up for the TV cameras, meet old friends, black bands over their tin stars, the same old stuff...

Sorry, son.

You run from the cops, you're gonna get taught a lesson.

Remember that.

46 posted on 06/23/2004 8:05:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Ursa63
I hate criminals and crime, but I firmly believe that many cops are little better than the punks they arrest.

Then, like somebody else said, call a hippie the next time somebody's breaking in your house.

You don't know many police officers, do you?

48 posted on 06/23/2004 8:06:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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There are 32,000 murders every year. The police kill maybe 200. You need to catch a clue.


49 posted on 06/23/2004 8:07:53 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Ursa63
I don't have to call anyone. I can handle myself quite well, thank you.

LOL!! Sure.

50 posted on 06/23/2004 8:08:02 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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