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UN Says: WMDs Smuggled From Iraq; Canadian PM Says in Terrorist Hands {Re-posting}
The Vanguard ^ | 6-24-04 | Rod D. Martin

Posted on 06/24/2004 8:06:14 AM PDT by treeclimber

In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.

Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow.

This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

You probably haven't heard about Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin either -- a socialist and no friend of America. Addressing a group of 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal last month, Martin stated bluntly that terrorists have acquired WMDs from Saddam. “The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Huseein had, we don't know where they are…. [T]errorists have access to all of them,” the Canadian premier warned.

The tip of this terrorist sword was scarcely deflected on April 26th, when Jordanian intelligence broke up an al Qaeda conspiracy to detonate a large chemical device in the capital city of Amman. Directed by al Qaeda terrorist leader Abu al-Zarqawi -- the same man who personally beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last month -- the plotters sought to use a massive explosion to spread a “toxic cloud”, meant to wipe out the U.S. embassy, the Jordanian prime minister's office, the Jordanian intelligence headquarters, and at least 20,000 civilians (by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11). Over twenty tons of chemical weapons were seized from the conspirators, who were just days away from carrying out their plot.

One wonders where CNN and USA Today think twenty tons of nerve gas and sarin came from: Chemical Weapons-Mart? Yet their coverage, like most major media outlets, mentioned not a word about Saddam's smuggled WMDs, which -- according to liberal dogma -- “don't exist.”

Even though the UN says they do exist, now spread around the world.

It's not just the UN. Bill Clinton says they exist, even after the war: in a July 2003 interview with Larry King, the ex-president uncharacteristically defended George Bush, saying “it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there [was]…a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for” in Iraq. Every intelligence agency in the world -- French, British, German, Russian, Czech, you name it -- agreed before the war; Jordanian intelligence can certainly confirm their opinion today.

So what's the deal? Why the relentless pretence that “Bush lied” when even the UN and Bill Clinton say he didn't? Why the absolute silence about “inconvenient” parts of various UN reports, such as the discovery of chemical and biological weapons plans, recipes and equipment; of bio-weapons agents in an Iraqi scientist's house; of a prison lab for testing bio weapons on humans; of complexes for manufacturing fuel for prohibited long-range missiles; of artillery rounds containing enough sarin to kill thousands of people, of similar shells containing mustard gas, two (but far from the only) of which were used in a terrorist attack against U.S. forces just weeks ago?

America cannot afford the answer to this “why”: that many on the left consider George W. Bush's defeat more urgent than al Qaeda's, his political death more essential than the possible physical death of millions of Americans.

The character of our foreign enemies has never been in doubt. The character of the enemy within -- from Dan Rather to Michael Moore -- has never been clearer. And the stakes are the highest they've ever been.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: iraq; napalminthemorning; smuggle; wmd; wot
This was posted on other threads, but I couldnt find it easily. THIS needs to be screamed at the Old Media to report.
1 posted on 06/24/2004 8:06:15 AM PDT by treeclimber
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To: treeclimber

"...many on the left consider George W. Bush's defeat more urgent than al Qaeda's, his political death more essential than the possible physical death of millions of Americans."

SO TRUE, SO PITIFUL


2 posted on 06/24/2004 8:07:38 AM PDT by treeclimber ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." GWB)
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To: treeclimber

Save your time, the media is not going to report this.


3 posted on 06/24/2004 8:08:58 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: treeclimber
The old media won't touch it.
4 posted on 06/24/2004 8:10:05 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: treeclimber
by contrast, only 3,000 died on 9/11

A prayer that 9/11 is not just a taste of what is to come.

5 posted on 06/24/2004 8:10:24 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: treeclimber
United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.

IMPOSSIBLE. If this were true it would be a top news story and a headline in every paper in the country, and world.

6 posted on 06/24/2004 8:13:33 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Piquaboy

"Save your time, the media is not going to report this."

I also have the same frustration with the Old Media as you do. But, we cannot give up in our efforts to get the truth out. This is the battle we have to fight here on the homefront. This is our contribution to our troops, to our President and to our country.

NEVER GIVE UP!!


7 posted on 06/24/2004 8:17:32 AM PDT by treeclimber ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." GWB)
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To: treeclimber

No... REALLY ?


8 posted on 06/24/2004 8:17:59 AM PDT by traumer
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To: treeclimber

Re-BUMPing!


9 posted on 06/24/2004 8:18:22 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound to the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Watch tomorrow Gore will be on the front page of every paper with his argument that Bush is falsely making an Iraq AQ connection.


10 posted on 06/24/2004 8:18:40 AM PDT by TBall
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To: treeclimber

t,
The Left decided 2 years ago that there were no WMD and no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Evidence is irrelevant, because the decision was already made.


11 posted on 06/24/2004 8:21:23 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: treeclimber
The character of our foreign enemies has never been in doubt. The character of the enemy within -- from Dan Rather to Michael Moore -- has never been clearer. And the stakes are the highest they've ever been.
12 posted on 06/24/2004 8:21:40 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Its noteworthy that the two biggest shills for the left are Michael Moore and Al Franken..)
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To: b4its2late

Who needs the old media? We have Algores fancy new internet!


13 posted on 06/24/2004 8:25:23 AM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: treeclimber

Thanks for reposting this. I was just looking for it.


14 posted on 06/24/2004 8:31:51 AM PDT by Eva
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To: treeclimber

Is there a way to verify any of this? If it's accurate, why has it not appeared elsewhere?


15 posted on 06/24/2004 8:41:07 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: treeclimber

exactly, I have already e-mailed this story to over 20 people ths morning. And I am going to hit local talk radio shows and national talk radio show links tonight.
If we could get Hannity to push this (you know how he can drum in a subject) then it would spread.

"All I ask of you is to never quit. Keep fighting. Keep fighting for your end goal. Make the difference. I promise if you give it everything you have...if you don't quit, you will be victorious"


16 posted on 06/24/2004 8:44:46 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: treeclimber; bigghurtt

Posted by bigghurtt to the_Watchman
On News/Activism 06/24/2004 3:20:42 AM PDT #29 of 100


I first read about this about a week and a half ago, but still have not seen it in tv ANYWHERE.

he is the un report...

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf



This UN report, posted by bigghurt actually deserves its own thread!


17 posted on 06/24/2004 8:50:00 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

Can you only imagine how well things would be going if the NY Times and all the other leftist Old Media were putting forth OUR side of this story-working with us instead of against us. During WWII, most of the media understood the battle we were in was critical to the survival of this country. Todays media dont seem be worried about that. They seem to only be concerned with wielding their (dwindling) influence.


18 posted on 06/24/2004 8:53:14 AM PDT by treeclimber ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." GWB)
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To: the_Watchman

I dont know how to do its own thread, but it certainly needs to be publicized as much as possible.


19 posted on 06/24/2004 8:54:49 AM PDT by treeclimber ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." GWB)
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To: treeclimber

That UN report link shows nothing on WMDs. Is this correct one?


20 posted on 06/24/2004 9:27:33 AM PDT by ParityErr
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To: ParityErr

>>Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war<<

I want to know more about THIS briefing...


21 posted on 06/24/2004 9:30:49 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: treeclimber; ValerieUSA
This can't be publicized, because the partisan media shills have insisted (even before Sean Penn took out his infamous full-page ads, and before the Dixie Bitch got on her Safe European Home soapbox) that Saddam never had WMDs. If this story is now spread, it will have to be admitted that he did have WMDs. Of course, the easy way to distract the lemming population from that fact is to say that the liberation of Iraq has made the world less safe. Time to have Kerry come in and, what? Negotiate? With whom?
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

23 posted on 06/24/2004 11:03:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe, just maybe a WMD will explode in the editorial room of the NY Slimes.


24 posted on 06/24/2004 11:33:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (How can you trust a man who will not risk his own Senate seat for a run at the presidency?)
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To: treeclimber

Big, big bump.


25 posted on 06/24/2004 2:42:00 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I stood up and fought against Ronald Reagan's illegal war in Central America." -John Kerry)
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Saddams Bombmaker Saddam's Bombmaker
by Khidhir Hamza
with Jeff Stein


26 posted on 09/26/2004 8:29:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: treeclimber

I chased the link you recommend in your profile......I see you're a Hackworth supporter, yes?


27 posted on 09/26/2004 8:43:16 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: treeclimber
I don't know what to believe anymore. I do believe the president when he said that we're going to get WMD's.

But one day we're blasting th UN for being incompetence, inefficient, corrupt, etc., and the next day we're relying on this report.

Secretary Powel has not even announced this to the world. He has been in many talk shows, including today in FNC.

28 posted on 09/26/2004 8:50:42 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits

this is the "report" linked in post #17
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf

I fail to see anything earth-shattering in it, and really its just a (cursory) quarterly description of UNMOVIC's activities. Same sort of thing for the old articles at the Vanguard site, IMO.

What am I missing here?


29 posted on 09/26/2004 9:09:25 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: treeclimber

get it to RUSH - if he gets it out, the media will be tripping over one another to get it out first so's it doesn't look like they're trying to cover ip


30 posted on 09/26/2004 11:56:21 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: treeclimber

Get to RUSH or Mike Gallager - email it to the Belway Boys at fox...etc' someone will pick it up


31 posted on 09/26/2004 11:57:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Piquaboy
"Save your time, the media is not going to report this."
Actually if you open the link in the heading of the article and then follow links there, you will find it HAS bee screamed from the rooftops - coming EVEN form the UN - for 6 months now. But no one is listening because it isn't what they want to hear. write letter to the edditors of your papers ad quote - and put the link in the letrter so's people can look it all up themselves.
32 posted on 09/27/2004 12:29:35 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: b4its2late

I hope times change


33 posted on 09/27/2004 11:59:42 AM PDT by Baseballguy
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To: Baseballguy
You and me both.....
34 posted on 09/27/2004 12:15:18 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: treeclimber
WOW!! First I've heard of it. I bet Rather will be reporting on it this evening.
Maybe Hannity will look at it, about the only chance we've got. Heck people send it to ever Conservative show you can think of, and then send it five more times! Can't hurt!

Cheers!
35 posted on 09/27/2004 12:22:56 PM PDT by SmellsLikeOwen
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To: Clioman

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040816-011235-4438r.htm

Wastington Times August 16... old news....


36 posted on 09/27/2004 12:29:46 PM PDT by RS (Just because the Pajama Posse is out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: treeclimber

Bump to your repost and to read later..thanks!


37 posted on 09/27/2004 12:31:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

"I chased the link you recommend in your profile......I see you're a Hackworth supporter, yes?"

Im ambivilant about Hackworth-no opinion either way. But the post on my profile page was not written by him, but was the after-action report of some of the meanest fighting in the Afghanistan action.

The bravery of the troops fighting there was astounding and I recommend all read it. I have the link herer and I also have a link to a beautiful editorial memorializing Spec. Neil Roberts.

http://www.sftt.org/dw05222002.html#2 Link to after action report

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20020524.shtml By Michelle Malkin

Read them both!!


38 posted on 09/27/2004 1:05:07 PM PDT by treeclimber ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." GWB 2001)
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To: SmellsLikeOwen

I've know about this report for months. Kofi Annan also knew about this report, yet, last week, he called the war in Iraq..ILLEGAL.. And Kerry wants to take his marching orders from the U.N. Amazing!


39 posted on 09/27/2004 1:48:02 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: treeclimber

when I went to your recommended site (sftt),the first thing was a nice big popup of Hackworth, who is deeply involved in the sites activities.

I will let hackworth's own words of Bush-bashing and SBVT-bashing (and about kerry, here, too) speak for him:

Hackworth: Once More a Nation Divided
August 16, 2004

The Vietnam War rages on. Witness the barrages being fired by Viet vets on the right and the left: "George W. Bush is a draft-dodger"; "John F. Kerry isn't a war hero."

Once again, that tragic war divides America - and this time around it's vet pitted against vet.

Sure, Bush dodged the draft, along with a reported 14 million other Americans with the savvy to work out that Vietnam was a no-win, sorry war. But although he had the luck and the connections to land a spot in the Air Guard, he did put his butt on the line flying a machine for which he was entitled to hazardous-duty pay - and that's because zooming around in a jet fighter was and still is highly dangerous.

And sure, Kerry's campaign push on how he Ramboed his way through the war - for four months - rubs a lot of vets the wrong way. And it does take its toll on those of us who prefer our heroes to be modest, unassuming types like Alvin York - who stayed the course until it was "Over, over there."

But politics and style aside, Kerry did serve with distinction in Vietnam when he easily could have avoided that killing field. His service to his country shouldn't be diminished by the same despicable, politically motivated tactics visited upon Sens. John McCain in South Carolina and Max Cleland in Georgia, also Viet vets. This kind of gutter-bashing doesn't belong in American politics, and vets shouldn't allow themselves to be used as ammo for cheap shots at one of their own.

The stalwart Brown Water Navy warriors who fought at Kerry's side say he was A-OK, which is good enough for me. The muckrakers such as John O'Neill and his Swiftboat snipers - who didn't sail on his boat but served anywhere from 100 meters to 300 miles away - are now coming off like eyewitnesses when in fact not one of their testimonies would hold up in a court of law. A judge would call these men liars and disallow their biased statements.


I've been in a fair number of battles in my lifetime, first fighting for my country in several hot wars, then covering a dozen conflicts as a correspondent. And I've learned that if you can't see the fight right up close, smell it, hear it and touch it, you can't possibly bear witness.

This isn't the first time Kerry's been sniped at. Joe Klein wrote in The New Yorker that Nixon aide Charles Colson formed the Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace in 1971 solely to attack John Kerry.

Colson told Klein that Kerry "was a thorn in our flesh. He was very articulate, a credible leader of the opposition. He forced us to create a counterfoil. We found a vet named John O'Neill and formed a group called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace. We had O'Neill meet the president, and we did everything we could do to boost his group."

O'Neill and his chorus of haters are still in their get-Kerry mode. I suspect the decades-long fury is still fueled by Kerry's high-profile anti-war stance when he returned home. That was a position that was taken by hundreds of thousands of other Viet vets, including myself in 1971 - which, according to Joe Califono's recent book, Inside: A Public Life, almost cost me my life.






McCain has already asked President Bush to distance himself from this "dishonest and dishonorable" attack. Advice that Bush should take one step further by ordering Vietnam draft-dodger Karl Rove and the rest of the character-assassination squad who zapped McCain and Cleland to back off. And then publicly stand tall and say that this type of behavior insults every vet who's served America in peace and war.

As our commander in chief, Bush also needs to bear in mind that the U.S. Navy and its high standards for handling awards are now on trial as well. Hopefully, the president's righteous actions will expedite that institution's exoneration along with Lt. John Kerry's heroism.


Hopefully, too, these angry, troubled vets still haunted by the Vietnam War will eventually find closure. But one thing I know for sure - it won't come from fratricide.

--Eilhys England contributed to this column.

Col. David H. Hackworth (USA Ret.) is SFTT.org co-founder and Senior Military Columnist for DefenseWatch magazine. For information on his many books, go to his home page at Hackworth.com, where you can sign in for his free weekly Defending America. Send mail to P.O. Box 11179, Greenwich, CT 06831. His newest book is "Steel My Soldiers' Hearts." © 2004 David H. Hackworth. Please send Feedback responses to dwfeedback@yahoo.com.

http://www.military.com/Resources/ResourceFileView?file=Hackworth_081604.htm


40 posted on 09/27/2004 1:56:44 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: 1Old Pro
You wrote:

"United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.

IMPOSSIBLE. If this were true it would be a top news story and a headline in every paper in the country, and world."

Excellent observation! It is good see someone using their
head. Here is the UNMOVIC report in question, read it for
yourself to confirm that UN weapons inspectors confirmed
that materials declared to UNMOVIC have been removed from
Iraq (mostly sold for scrap) AFTER the US and UK took
control of Iraq, in some cases after Saddam Hussein was
in custody:

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf

Indeed, that is the very report referenced by the _World
Tribune_ which published the headline you quoted.

But don't trust me! Read it for yourself. Check the dates.

--

FF
41 posted on 10/11/2004 8:15:43 AM PDT by Fred Fighter (Don't trust me! Read for yourself.)
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To: ParityErr

You wrote"

That UN report link shows nothing on WMDs. Is this correct one?"


Yes.

--

FF


42 posted on 10/11/2004 8:18:30 AM PDT by Fred Fighter (Don't trust me! Read for yourself.)
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To: epluribus_2

You can read it here.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf

--

FF


43 posted on 10/12/2004 10:36:32 AM PDT by Fred Fighter (Don't trust me! Read for yourself.)
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To: treeclimber

I found this blast from the past among some old emails that I had sent and thought it deserved a bump into the present.


44 posted on 06/18/2005 2:47:49 PM PDT by Eva
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To: treeclimber

why is this never talked about?


45 posted on 11/17/2005 1:33:43 AM PST by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: All
Similar story crosslink -bump-

FLASHBACK: "Russia Hid Saddam's WMDs" (Washington Times, 10/2/03)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523648/posts

46 posted on 11/17/2005 1:52:20 AM PST by Cboldt
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