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El Al Suspends All Turkey Flights
BBC ^ | 6-25-2004

Posted on 06/25/2004 2:57:52 PM PDT by blam

El Al suspends all Turkey flights

El Al says is trying to find alternative flights for stranded passengers

Israeli airline El Al has suspended all its flights to Turkey in a row over security in Istanbul. The suspension, which started on Thursday, has left air passengers stranded in both Turkey and Israel.

The dispute follows weeks of growing tension between the two countries' governments, after Turkey's prime minister criticised Israel's treatment of Palestinians.

But the row is thought to be unrelated to Thursday's bomb attacks in Turkey.

The flights were halted after reports that the number of Israeli guards permitted at Istanbul had been reduced.

According to Israel Radio, the decision to stop El Al's six weekly flights to Istanbul was taken on the advice of Israel's Shin Bet security service.

"We hope this crisis will be resolved soon"

El Al spokesman

Media reports said Turkey had unilaterally changed security arrangements covering the number of Israeli security staff permitted at Istanbul's Attaturk international airport.

The weapons they were permitted to carry and their terms of operation were also said to have been changed.

There was no independent confirmation from El Al of the exact nature of the dispute.

But Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman David Saranga said his office was holding "intensive and ongoing contact with the Turkish authorities to try to find a solution".

An El Al official said the airline was trying to help passengers stranded in both Israel and Turkey to find other flights.

"We intend to find solutions for all our passengers," said Itamar Bartuv. "We hope this crisis will be resolved soon."

Tension

Other airlines' flights between Israel and Turkey were not hit.

Tension between the two governments increased last month when Turkish PM Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel of using "state terror" in a raid in the Gaza Strip.

The row was reignited when US media reports accused Israel of training Kurdish commando units in northern Iraq.

Turkey has a mainly Muslim population but a secular government, and until the row erupted was a close regional ally of Israel.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; elal; flights; suspends; turkey
Wonder when they'll suspend all chicken flights. This headline should read: El Al Suspends All Flights To Turkey

But, who am I to correct the english of the English, huh?

1 posted on 06/25/2004 2:57:53 PM PDT by blam
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To: Yehuda
Time to invade our great ally , Turkey... (you remember how they "helped" us as we hit Iraq...)

Sure, just come up with another couple hundred thousand troops and a few more hundred billion dollars, and then go and vote for Kerry, because he'd be your next president.

3 posted on 06/25/2004 3:07:23 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: kezekiel

Turkey's in line behind Iran, North Korea, Syria, China and about a half-dozen other countries that some people here seem to think we can conquer simultaneously without breaking a sweat. There was another country with a powerful military who thought they could pull a similar trick in the 1930s. Things didn't work out very well for them. This is, of course, completely ignoring the fact that this would destroy NATO and destabilize all the little countries NATO currently holds together.


4 posted on 06/25/2004 3:13:45 PM PDT by NJ_gent
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To: Yehuda

A bit of an overreaction. My guess is that flights will resume within a week.


5 posted on 06/25/2004 3:14:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: blam
Media reports said Turkey had unilaterally changed security arrangements covering the number of Israeli security staff permitted at Istanbul's Attaturk international airport. The weapons they were permitted to carry and their terms of operation were also said to have been changed.

This is silly, did Turkey think that Israel was going to try to use these guys to launch a raid on Istanbul?

7 posted on 06/25/2004 3:34:40 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Yehuda
Duh... So we let the kurds loose.

That'll show them. Only what, I'm not sure.

8 posted on 06/25/2004 3:36:17 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: NJ_gent

Turnky ain't in line at all. They are the closest thing to a democracy in all the Arab world, and they have been a pretty good ally. Turks fought on our side in the Korean War, suppoted us in NATO and have helped in various Gulf Wars to one extent or another.

And you don't want to fight the Turks. They may be behind a bit in the tech department (but not as much you think...) but there are lots of 'em and they are tough and disciplined. It would not be like Iraq. It would be a very messy war.

We owe 'em and they are pretty good folks. They ain't in line; they ain't even on the list.


9 posted on 06/25/2004 3:43:21 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: NJ_gent

Are you equating the US (by reference) to Japan or to Germany? Or something else?


10 posted on 06/25/2004 3:45:04 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: blam; Jeremiah Jr; dighton; aculeus; Constitution Day
El Al suspends all Turkey flights

"As God as my witness..."

11 posted on 06/25/2004 3:45:43 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal

"I THOUGHT TURKEYS COULD FLY!!!!"


12 posted on 06/25/2004 3:50:55 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: blam

Les Nesman: "As God is my witness, I thought Turkeys could fly."


13 posted on 06/25/2004 4:42:54 PM PDT by Chewbacca (There is a place in this world for all of God's creatures.....right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: Zeppo
"Are you equating the US (by reference) to Japan or to Germany? Or something else?"

No, I'm equating the ridiculous notion of infinite and invincible US military power that far too many people here seem to cling to so desperately (as evidenced by the response of calling for military action against every country that just might be doing something we (the US) would prefer they not do) with the same absurd notions that the German political leadership clung to just prior to WWII.

No one country can conquer the world just yet. We can probably destroy all human life on it, but we can't conquer it. Now try telling that to some folks whose response remains the same regardless of the perceived enemy's strategic arsenal, or our tactical response capabilities. These are the lunatics who keep calling for us to lob missiles are China and North Korea, and who still put Russia, of all countries, on their 'maybe' list. I was attempting to compile a small list of the countries these wackos would have us fighting all at the same time. Thank God these people aren't in a position of power. If they were, they just might succeed where everyone else has failed; obliterating the United States armed forces.

We need to pick our fights according to the necessity and our military capabilities. We need to prepare for our fights, or risk losing massive numbers of people and equipment. We need to keep our allies with us, as they can often times help us in time of need. Were it not for the Pak troops in Somalia, Clinton's '93 blunder would have been far worse. I'm not commenting on US policies, but rather on the comments I see floated here far too often by those who I'd suspect of being teenage males more interested in posturing and strutting than in looking into sustainable and viable US defense. It just finally annoyed me to the point where I posted a sarcast comment about how Turkey needs to get in line and take a number behind all the other countries we're supposed to be attacking according to some folks on here. It was meant to illustrate just how ridiculous, futile, and ignorant of history's lessons these random comments are.
14 posted on 06/27/2004 4:16:17 PM PDT by NJ_gent
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To: NJ_gent

I understood the point that you were trying to make, but my question was whether you were making the comparison (of a country that believed that it could conquer many different countries on different fronts) to Germany or Japan, both of which would seem to fit the general description, or perhaps to something else. Thanks for clarifying that it was Germany that you had in mind.


15 posted on 06/27/2004 7:31:36 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Yehuda

"Invade" Turkey ??? HUH :-) That surely had to be some kind of a joke !. May I suggest that you do a little research as to the strength of that country's Military ?.


16 posted on 06/28/2004 5:42:15 PM PDT by Enlightenment
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To: Yehuda

"Invade" Turkey ??? HUH :-) That surely had to be some kind of a joke !. May I suggest that you do a little research as to the strength and "courage" of that country's Fighting Machine ?.


17 posted on 06/28/2004 5:44:56 PM PDT by Enlightenment
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To: Yehuda
The U.S. should invade Turkey because of a security spat with Israel? As long as we're talking totally freakin' stoooopid ideas here, let Israel invade Turkey, since the spat is between Israel and Turkey.
18 posted on 06/28/2004 5:49:33 PM PDT by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: Zeppo


NJ_gent
Since Mar 24, 2004

I starting to think this nj_gent is a left wing infiltrator. I saw another comment he made in another post. We need to keep an eye on this person.


19 posted on 06/28/2004 6:03:13 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: gedeon3

NJ_gent
Since Mar 24, 2004

I'm starting to think this nj_gent is a left wing infiltrator. I saw another comment he made in another post. We need to keep an eye on this person.

Correction.


20 posted on 06/28/2004 6:04:06 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: NJ_gent; Little Ray

The only thing that should matter to conservative Americans---- those of us fully supporting Mr Bush in a tough reelection effort----is that President Bush is solidly behind Turkey as an ally and is promoting Turkey as a full-fledged member of the EU.

As a bona fide conservative, President Bush values loyalty, as all we conservatives do. So if he is backing Turkey, he has a good reason.

It's outrageous that some are abandoning Mr Bush at a time when he needs conservatives firmly in his camp. Conservatives should be praising Mr Bush's efforts.

BTW, at the time of the Iraq invasion, the noises emanating from neocon warhawks was that their package included Turkey in the coalition. Too bad the n/c's couldn't deliver.


21 posted on 06/28/2004 6:12:50 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Yehuda
Dropped your teeth, didya? Here, my grandma swore by this stuff:


25 posted on 06/28/2004 7:15:21 PM PDT by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: Yehuda
I'm with the President; if he feels the need to coddle Turkey against frahnce, fine. And yes, Turkey is "moderate" and a semi democracy, but pee in my ear and tell me it's raining OR what great allies they are, OR how the neojoos couldn't deliver....

Bwahahahaha........ "pee in my ear....... or ........"
Heh, I like your passion/temper.

26 posted on 06/28/2004 7:55:01 PM PDT by Chong (God Bless and Protect our Troops.)
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To: blam

Chickens!


31 posted on 07/02/2004 10:55:36 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: Yehuda
Time to invade our great ally , Turkey... (you remember how they "helped" us as we hit Iraq...) Or we could just let the Kurds loose in Northern Iraq...

Ridiculous ideas, not worthy of discusssion, only worthy of reprimand and rebuke.

32 posted on 07/02/2004 10:59:42 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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