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The Relationship Between The Basque And Ainu
High Speed Plus ^ | 1996 | Edo Nyland

Posted on 06/25/2004 3:44:16 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Most of the links seem very tenuous to me -- which would be obvious since the two languages are separated by the entire breadth of the Eurasian continent and by eons. I thought there was a link between Basque and Chechen, is that correct? If it can be proved that Basque is related to any of the Dravidian languages we could then move with comparisons further east. The strange thing about Dravidian is that though they are mostly in southern india, there is one language still alive in Baluchistan -- Brahui. Finno-Ugaritic is another strange family, but I doubt they're related to the Dravidian or Basque langauges.


41 posted on 06/26/2004 1:19:24 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: monkeyman81
I'm impressed, you seem to know the subject well.

The Caucasian mummies ( The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mumm) found in China apparently spoke Tocharian, an extinct language, and it is most closely related to the Celtic language (According to Victor Mair) than all others.

The oldest paper ever found has Tocharian written on it.

42 posted on 06/26/2004 8:17:56 AM PDT by blam
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To: Cronos; JimSEA
I'll toss this into the mix:

Mysterious Giant Human Remains Found In Fiji.

43 posted on 06/26/2004 8:41:09 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

It's interesting, nevertheless; thank you for posting it. b


44 posted on 06/26/2004 8:46:07 AM PDT by Barset
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To: blam

It's interesting, nevertheless; thank you for posting it. b


45 posted on 06/26/2004 8:46:18 AM PDT by Barset
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To: blam

bump


46 posted on 06/26/2004 8:48:16 AM PDT by VOA
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To: monkeyman81
"OTOH, the Celtic languages are spoken by people who are genetically closer to the Basques than to the original Celtic speakers, so maybe the Basques adopted Basque from the first farmers to migrate into Spain.

Ryan and Pittman, in their book Noah's Flood (The Black Sea Flood 7,600 ya), speculate that there were hundreds of thousands of humans huddled around the (then) freshwater Black Sea. When the Black Sea flooded with saltwater (rising 6-12" a day) most of these people were simply able to walk away with whatever they could carry with them up the river valleys all across Europe...taking their language and farming culture with them.

I believe the Tocharians in China may also be refugees from this flood.(?)

The last I've seen, linguists have traced all the IE languages back to Anatolia...using mainly farming words.

47 posted on 06/26/2004 8:49:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: monkeyman81
Italian Archaeologist: Anatolia - Home To The First Civilization On Earth
48 posted on 06/26/2004 8:55:06 AM PDT by blam
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I just got back from the bookstore and, on your recomendation, picked up Dr. Schoch's "Voyages of the Pyramid Builders". Now to kick the cat out and sit back in the old easychair.


49 posted on 06/26/2004 4:06:04 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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"I just got back from the bookstore and, on your recomendation, picked up Dr. Schoch's "Voyages of the Pyramid Builders". "

It's no-where near the book that Eden In The East is. You'll see Oppenheimer's work (credited) all over the book.

50 posted on 06/26/2004 4:09:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Just a sedimentary view...


51 posted on 06/26/2004 5:08:41 PM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: ValerieUSA; blam
Yeah. He's got a website on which he claims that the Odyssey originated in what is now NW Scotland (islands and mainland) and somehow made it into later Greek literature. I'm more inclined to believe Samuel Butler's claim that the Odyssey was written by a woman living in (or was it near?) Sicily.

Unless... could it be... it so happens that there is another Edo Nyland, and the "Odyssey" Edo Nyland makes a point of mentioning that he's not that other Edo Nyland. And each of them has a cousin named Edo Nyland. And there's the Island of Edon. Plus Boz Scaggs recorded that tune years ago, "Edo"...
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

52 posted on 06/26/2004 5:12:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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"Plus Boz Scaggs recorded that tune years ago, "Edo"... "

LOL. I used to go to a bar in San Jose in the late 60's - early 70's to watch Boz Scaggs.

53 posted on 06/26/2004 5:15:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: JimSEA
As far as I am concerned, the past, like the present, was complex and development multifacited.
Well said. Barry Fell once noted that he'd received a letter from a Native American, vacationing in Spain, who heard some Basque speakers conversing in his tribal tongue. He was able to understand most of their words, and vice versa, presumably the differences being the loan vocabulary.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

54 posted on 06/26/2004 5:24:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Take your meds, civ. You'll be well soon.


55 posted on 06/26/2004 6:15:46 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: blam
Back in, hmm, 1988 I was in San Francisco for a week, yeah, you guessed it, I was a bridesmaid in a gay wedding [rimshot! oh no, I said 'rim'] and read in the newspaper there an interview with and story about Boz, who at that time was about to open a club downtown. Dunno what happened to the club, because frankly, I hate Boz Scaggs' recordings. ;')
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

56 posted on 06/26/2004 6:23:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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"Well said. Barry Fell once noted that he'd received a letter from a Native American, vacationing in Spain, who heard some Basque speakers conversing in his tribal tongue. He was able to understand most of their words, and vice versa, presumably the differences being the loan vocabulary. "

Thanks, I didn't know where I had gotten that bit of info. I've read most of Fell's work so...that must have been it.

57 posted on 06/26/2004 6:44:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: ValerieUSA
Hey, most of that was not made up. :'P It's bugged me for years that I've not managed to find that particular reference in Barry Fell's books, but maybe I'll look some more...

America B.C. America B.C.
by Barry Fell

find it in a nearby library
Saga America
by Barry Fell

find it in a nearby library
Bronze-Age America
by Barry Fell

find it in a nearby library
Kon-Tiki Kon-Tiki
Thor Heyerdahl

DVD documentary


58 posted on 06/26/2004 6:45:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: blam
It's kind of a letdown that Fell had mislaid the letter the man had sent, and was putting the reference in his book in hopes that the letter's author would send a similar account again.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

59 posted on 06/26/2004 6:48:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv
"It's kind of a letdown that Fell had mislaid the letter the man had sent, and was putting the reference in his book in hopes that the letter's author would send a similar account again. "

I can see your memory is far better than mine.

60 posted on 06/26/2004 8:10:08 PM PDT by blam
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