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IRISH FREEPers! Contact info for rude RTE Reporter
Embassy of Ireland ^ | 06/25/04 | Recovering_Democrat

Posted on 06/25/2004 6:49:45 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat



President Bush is interviewed by Carole Coleman of RTE.

If you see this interview, you'll likely notice a hostility and rudeness toward the President. He apparently was interrupted a number of times. Reporters or interviewers who want answers, especially from heads of state, do not interrupt. Reporters who are smug, self-important and without class generally do interrupt.

The Embassy of Ireland is not to blame for this person's rudeness...I merely used the embassy as the resource to find her attention. Irish FREEPers (or anyone else), if you're offended by this attitude, feel free to contact Ms. Coleman. Here is the information. She is a correspondent in Washington (apparently following the President back to Ireland) for RTE.

Carole Coleman
2000 M Street NW
Suite 315
Washington DC 20036
Tel: (202) 467-5933
Fax: (202) 467-5937


TOPICS: Announcements; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; carolecoleman; coleman; europ; ireland; irish; liberalmedia; rudeanchors; useusummit
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1 posted on 06/25/2004 6:49:46 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

C-Span ran it eariler, don't know if/when they will again. She was so rude and you could just feel her hatred of the President. Practically calling him stupid in that every one in the world knew Bush made a mistake, why couldn't he see it????


2 posted on 06/25/2004 6:52:07 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I spend a good deal of time in Limerick on company business. I have not run into anyone who is openly critical of the war in Iraq. Most honestly appreciate that Saddam is gone and that they did not have to do it themselves.


3 posted on 06/25/2004 6:57:15 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Happygal

A ping for my favorite Irish lady.


4 posted on 06/25/2004 6:57:59 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Very thoughtful of you to post this information.


5 posted on 06/25/2004 6:58:59 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Considering RTE plays in many Irish neighborhood bars in NYC, we can start there.

The little bitch didn't realize the ethnic group with the greatest loss of life were the Irish. Fireman, cops, insurance brokers and traders.


6 posted on 06/25/2004 7:01:29 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: lavrenti

Meant "on 9|11" regarding lose of life.


7 posted on 06/25/2004 7:02:02 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

For those who can't wait to contact her, a more direct number is 202-288-6138.


8 posted on 06/25/2004 7:03:58 PM PDT by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: lavrenti
The little bitch didn't realize the ethnic group with the greatest loss of life were the Irish. Fireman, cops, insurance brokers and traders.

"Osama bin Laden. You can kiss my royal Irish *ss."

9 posted on 06/25/2004 7:18:35 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Recovering_Democrat

BTTT


10 posted on 06/25/2004 7:21:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Eh, she's sounds like the crapload of liberal rude reporterettes we have here in the states.

The Irish I know support the President, but then all the good Irish I know became Americans.


12 posted on 06/25/2004 7:34:41 PM PDT by katnip
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The Helen Thomas of Ireland?


13 posted on 06/25/2004 8:29:10 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I just watched this entire interview. The President's answers were thoughtful, precise, and honest. He is a better public speaker than he was 4 years ago, and I look forward to the debates.


14 posted on 06/25/2004 8:40:30 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Unlike Gore, he has improved with time.


15 posted on 06/25/2004 11:21:22 PM PDT by Imal (I'm too damn crazy to be insane.)
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To: Mr. Silverback; Landru; Incorrigible; aculeus; dighton; Irish_Thatcherite
Thank you Mr. Silverback for the ping.

BTW, I was working with another RTE corr. today, and we spoke about Ms. Coleman.

Suffice it to say, that the colleague (relying on my help today, incidentally), was of the same opinion as me, re:Carol Coleman.

When I said to my RTE friend: 'I must be the only journalist in the country who likes President Bush, and is prepared to give him a fair go'

She said: 'You like him? Why?'

I said: 'He says what he means, and he means what he says. We're too indoctrinated in this country with wishy-washy bullshit, political innuendo. We criticise someone who doesn't give us the perfect Oxford dictionary soundbite, but can tolerate double standards in political life. Yeah! I like him!'

She said: 'Ok, but what about Carol?'

I said: 'Don't like her. I thought Mark Little (previous RTE Washington corr) was commie-biased, but Carol Coleman wears her hatred of America on her face'

She said: 'I have to agree with you. I don't think she likes the job'

I said: 'No shit, Sherlock'

(and from there, I went on to help her out in getting her news broadcast ready for 6 pm., because, I felt sorry for her. ....which indicates, that RTE need to employ women who know how to do the job! eh? *S*)

16 posted on 06/25/2004 11:29:10 PM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Happygal; dighton; general_re
(and from there, I went on to help her out in getting her news broadcast ready for 6 pm., because, I felt sorry for her. ....which indicates, that RTE need to employ women who know how to do the job! eh? *S*)

Let us know if you need references.

17 posted on 06/26/2004 7:07:00 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Happygal
I said: 'He says what he means, and he means what he says. We're too indoctrinated in this country with wishy-washy bullshit, political innuendo. We criticise someone who doesn't give us the perfect Oxford dictionary soundbite, but can tolerate double standards in political life. Yeah! I like him!'

Hopefully George will teach Bertie how to talk, as well as run a country, as for that c*** Carole Coleman, perhaps the Yanks could lend us Ann Coulter (she could find out whether she's related to singer Phil Coulter), and tear Coleman asunder, the big dirty Trot.

18 posted on 06/26/2004 8:29:25 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (George W. Bush, Failte [Welcome]: You have some Irish supporters)
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To: Happygal
BTW:

RTE = Radicals, Terrorists & Eurocrats

19 posted on 06/26/2004 8:34:19 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (George W. Bush, Failte [Welcome]: You have some Irish supporters)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Here's the entire interview on mp3. It's at least ten megs big, but if you really want to hear the entire thing, there it is.

Bush-Coleman interview.

The President tells Coleman "Let me finish..." at least five or six times. That is as close to confrontation as he gets.

Here, in a nutshell, is the entire ideological confrontation between the USA and the liberal-socialist axis. Socialists articulate their pathological reactions to momentary impressions using loaded language calculated infer the worst possible image of the USA, and instead of unambiguous disdain, confronting the premises and refuting the conclusions as any good teacher would with a disruptive student radical, Bush tries to picture us as the nicest people you'd ever want to meet.

This affability presumes several premises, the most obvious being, "Hey, why are you upset at us for? We agree on basically the same things. We're here to help the least fortunate. We are the most altruistic nation on Earth, we're spending 15 billion dollars on AIDS..." etcetera, ad nauseum.

Bush and the GOP don't get it. When two groups who share the same basic premise compete, the most zealous always wins. By assenting to the same basic premises of liberal-socialism, Bush loses even before the contest begins.

One cannot make friends with these people. The Euro-scum despise the basic ideology of this country, they despise the Declaration, and Bush is unable to articulate what the principles of this country are, much less confront and refute their enemies.

Instead, he tries to lay a burden on their hearts through affability, in the hopes, I guess, that they finally make their way to the altar in contrite humility while the choir plays "Just As I Am."

Would Reagan have stood for this Euro-scum crap?

20 posted on 06/26/2004 9:20:55 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria)
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To: Mortimer Snavely

Do you know of any other copy of the interview, my computer can't download the recorded interview


21 posted on 06/26/2004 10:59:59 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (George W. Bush, Failte [Welcome]: You have some Irish supporters)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Strange. Coleman is not noted here for being a heavyweight reporter - middleweight at best. And yet, Bush becomes flustered and arrogant with even the simplest of questions, he never answers questions put to him, and basicly falls apart. Had it been David Hanly or some of the UK heavyweights like Jeremy Paxman or Tim Sebastian, I shudder to think how foolish he would have looked.

And yet, all that is being argued about is whether or not Coleman was rude - which she simply wasn't, quite frankly. In several cases, Bush paused and Coleman took that as the end of a sentence - and then acted like a petulent child when she called him on not having answered her questions.


22 posted on 06/26/2004 11:01:36 AM PDT by IE_Sparks
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To: IE_Sparks

Apparently, you don't take into account regional and cultural differences in speech here.

A Texan doesn't speak like a Virginian nor does a New Yorker have the same linguistic style as a Minnasotan.

I think the Europeans know a heck of a lot less about America than they think.


23 posted on 06/26/2004 11:15:54 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Vote Kerry if you want to commit national suicide)
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To: OpusatFR
Apparently, you don't take into account regional and cultural differences in speech here.

Neither has any other poster here. The interview was nowhere near rude by Irish standards. It was in fact overly polite. Several questions were raised and ignored - in Ireland, we would expect the interviewer to restate the question and get an answer. Instead, Coleman moved on to other questions - that is one of the reasons she would not be considered a heavyweight here. Hanly, for example, would have started with the question of Iraq and only that question, and would not have allowed Bush to dodge the question, as was done by Coleman.
24 posted on 06/26/2004 11:29:45 AM PDT by IE_Sparks
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To: IE_Sparks

Irish chick is a visiting a head of state in his own land.

Irish chick therefore is morally bound to follow US protocols.

Irish chick makes Irish look bad. But fortunately most Americans know that not all Irish are as rude and self-important as this stuffed irish pig Coleman is.





25 posted on 06/26/2004 3:22:23 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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To: IE_Sparks

Irish chick is visiting a head of state in his own land.

Irish chick therefore is morally bound to follow US protocols.

Irish chick makes Irish look bad.

But fortunately most Americans know that not all Irish are as rude and self-important as this stuffed irish pig Coleman is.





26 posted on 06/26/2004 3:23:04 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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To: Notwithstanding
Irish chick is visiting a head of state in his own land. Irish chick therefore is morally bound to follow US protocols.

Which she in fact does, past even the point of politeness - for example, for us the correct address for talking to George Bush is "Mr. Bush" or "President Bush", unless you're a US citizen (in which case it's "Mr. President"). However, she uses the more formal "Mr. President", simply to be polite. (It's not "Mr.President" for us, btw, because our President is Mrs.McAleese, and she'd be rather annoyed at being called Mr.Bush, to put it mildly).

There are a dozen other such small points that you may have missed because you were upset at the content of her interview - but that does not mean that the interview was impolite.

On the contrary, by refusing to answer questions he was asked and by interrupting her deliberately, Bush was quite impolite himself.

I don't know how you're used to these things running, but over here, the Taoiseach does not have any more or any less civility due to him than any other citizen in conversation...

27 posted on 06/26/2004 5:23:15 PM PDT by IE_Sparks
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To: IE_Sparks

You like kitties?


28 posted on 06/26/2004 5:34:09 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: IE_Sparks

Excuse me! BUT,if anybody has a right to interrupt,it's the President and not some Irish reporterette! Who is she? As far as I can tell, it was this reporter who was interrupting the President and not visa versa.


29 posted on 06/26/2004 8:02:00 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (On Election Day,President Bush: "WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER!")
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To: IE_Sparks

BTW, are you from Ireland?


30 posted on 06/26/2004 8:02:54 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (On Election Day,President Bush: "WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER!")
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To: IE_Sparks
"Bush becomes flustered and arrogant with even the simplest of questions,"

Bush wasn't arrogant, he was just trying to lay a burden on the reporter's heart. Bush is unable to articulate and expand upon the basic premises of the Declaration, so why should we expect him to seriously confront the liberal-socialist axis with nothing more than platitudes?

31 posted on 06/26/2004 11:53:41 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria)
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To: OpusatFR
Why inject analysis? The USA is the worst thing that has ever happened to the planet, and Bush personifies that. All that's necessary for Euro-scum to hate him, and us, is to mention personal faith, the Bible, and freedom. That's enough to send them ballistic.

Regional speech patterns doesn't enter into it.

What irks me to distraction is that Bush is unwilling or unable to confront these twerps and stick up for us in the combat ring of ideological confrontation.

32 posted on 06/27/2004 12:00:22 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria)
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To: IE_Sparks
The interview was nowhere near rude by Irish standards

Really? There's a lot of Celtic blood running through my veins but frankly I was embarrassed at how rude and illmannered she was. She appears to have been raised by wolves and brought shame to her country.

If this is considered acceptable in Ireland today then the country has really fallen. In that case, I won't bother to go back on any more visits.

33 posted on 06/27/2004 12:09:49 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Oh, he stood up. The interview with Mrs. Bush with RTE was cancelled. I would imagine her credintials will be pulled and she will be invited to leave.

The silly rude twit doesn't understand that the President of the United States represents the people of the United States and she just insulted ALL of us.

34 posted on 06/27/2004 12:14:12 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: McGavin999

The fact is, Ireland as a nation really has fallen.

The Constitution is very Catholic and until recently so was the moral culture.

Sadly, Ireland has exchanged the best traits of their culture for the worst of ours - and they now have a serious epidemic of affluenza. In other words, materialism has displaced the Irish culture that was.


35 posted on 06/27/2004 3:34:18 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Fides et Ratio)
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To: brotherandrew

Hi, I agree. What are they whinging about. Irish people are very aware of current affairs, and hold politicians accountable for what they do. A political figure at any level is fully accountable, and wrong doings are prosecuted in public tribunals. If you can't answer a few questions about your policies without the White House Communications Office getting upset, then maybe you're in the wrong business. Either you know what you're talking about or you don't.

Getting upset with a complete lightweight reporter like Carole Coleman is laughable. Frankly, she does not register on the live interview richter scale. If that is the extent of GW's communications skills, then it isn't difficult to understand why it is strongly rumoured in Ireland and the UK that the White House will never expose GWB to Jeremy Paxman (BBC), or David Hanly(RTE), or David McWilliams(TV3 Ireland), or Peter Allan (BBC).

In Ireland and the UK, you answer for the policies that you put forward. We as the voting public are entitled to ask and probe your motivations. Sometimes the exchanges between interviewers and politicians at all levels are raw, spontaneous and prone to the occasional colourful language that we might associate with the 'heat of the moment'. But what you get in those moments is the spark, the energy and conviction with which the public figure is willing to lead politically.

You can have your stage managed politics with spin doctors writing the text of every word that you hear from your politicians. The problem with that is that you NEVER truelly hear from the actual politician, only the communications and political advisors that keep the politician safe.

GW lost a lot of credibility in Europe audiences because he completely failed to manage Coleman. He blundered and attempted to fill the interview with the top points of his achievements, his campaign to re-elect - all he needed to do was answer the questions.

And before anyone calles me an Irish this or that, I'm generally conservative, served in the Irish army for 23 years. Worked with US troops in Beruit, Somalia, was a liaison officer with the US Defence Attache in Dublin for 3 years, and I have personal and family links with the US.

Regards


37 posted on 06/27/2004 6:46:04 PM PDT by CelticTiger (Stop Whinging over Coleman)
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To: IE_Sparks
I am of Irish Blood and this bitch was rude and if she treated me like she did the President i would have shown her the door.
38 posted on 06/28/2004 7:28:50 PM PDT by solo gringo (Say No More Bush and Cheney in 04)
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To: CelticTiger
Getting upset with a complete lightweight reporter like Carole Coleman is laughable. Frankly, she does not register on the live interview richter scale.

You signed up today just to defend an obnoxious reporter and run down the President?

39 posted on 06/28/2004 7:47:02 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Ichneumon

Nope. I'm not against the Iraq war. I am against the over protection of politicians though. GW is a smart guy. You don't get to be president of the US if your not a smart guy. However, on this side of the pond, and particularly from the respected elements of the UK media, there is much unease that a layer of advisors and powerful commercial interests are having undue influence on the thinking of the president. And when he is interviewed in that manner, and appears to dither, and get aggressive, and put forward an election manifesto instead of answering the questions, it seems to us that Ms Rice, or Mr Rumsfelt, or other members of the neo-conservative group from which they hail have a worrying hold of power.

Don't get defensive all the time. You should listen when your friends are trying to tell you that something is not right. I'm not an enemy of America, or necessarily Mr Bush for that matter. Don't direct your anger at me. Instead ensure that Mr Bush knows what he is talking about. I was looking at a program last night of Mr Gingritch (hope I spelled it right) under real pressure in an interview regarding Iraq. He was strong, informed, deliberate, didn't get angry or defensive.

That's the message folks. Coleman wasn't strong. Mr Bush appeared weak. That's a message from a friend.

A word of caution. I understand that the worlds media has reported the interview all over the Globe. In this election year, it is only a matter of time before someone in the States takes a similar pop at him.

Bye.

Pat


40 posted on 06/29/2004 12:24:43 AM PDT by CelticTiger (Stop Whinging over Coleman)
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To: IE_Sparks

Congratulations on making it to your third day.


42 posted on 06/29/2004 6:31:30 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: masterk

Let me welcome you on your very first day on Free Republic, masterk.

(Are you IE Sparks in drag?)


44 posted on 07/01/2004 7:03:07 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Jewels1091


45 posted on 07/01/2004 10:00:40 AM PDT by swimmr
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To: FlJoePa

IE Sparks member since 6/26/04


46 posted on 07/01/2004 10:05:19 AM PDT by Republican Red (I actually did vote for the 87 BILLION... before I voted against it)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I was back in Ireland a little over a month ago. I listened to a 'panel discussion' on RTE radio between the notorious Robert Fisk, some ex-Irish-military (yes, there is one) type who made up an entire theory about a US military organization set up to provide young Iraqi boys for senior officers (projecting?), and an expat American woman who was trying to be more anti-American than the other two, and who seemed stuck in the sixties. It will amaze those who've read his effluent on FR that Fisk came across as the most reasonable of the three.

Needless to say, I won't be going back to Ireland any time soon.

48 posted on 07/01/2004 11:57:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: masterk

It was merely a welcome coupled with a parenthetical question. (Your ramblings seemed along the lines of an earlier troll.)

From the few remarks of yours that I've read it appears that you fancy yourself a spokesman for the Irish.

Mostly, however, it appears you just fancy yourself.


49 posted on 07/01/2004 12:05:00 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: CelticTiger
I think you're wrong. I listened to the sound file. Coleman sounds like a rude bitch, with an attitude. She said Bush wasn't welcome in Ireland - who elected her? GWB, IMO, responded reasonably.

Possibly there is a difference in standards of courtesy here; in general, Americans are less prone to interrupt others; they certainly don't interrupt POTUS.

And lest you challenge my cred.; I grew up in Dublin and most of my family still live there.

50 posted on 07/01/2004 12:18:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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