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Hitler image used in Bush campaign Web ad
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Posted on 06/26/2004 10:39:21 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) The image of Adolf Hitler has emerged again in the battle for the White House as Democrats and Republicans both have tried to liken their opponents to the Nazi dictator.

A new Bush-Cheney re-election video features clips of Hitler the same ones the campaign criticized when they were used in a Web spot that appeared on the Internet site of the liberal activist group MoveOn.org as part of a contest in January.


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1 posted on 06/26/2004 10:39:21 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Your link is dead. I'm having a little trouble believing this.


3 posted on 06/26/2004 10:42:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........"John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute".........)
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To: Sub-Driver
I looked at the ad yesterday. The ad uses MoveOn's ad showing Bush as Hitler. It doesn't depict any of the Dem's as Hitler. How the Hell can you criticize your own ad?
4 posted on 06/26/2004 10:43:58 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Sub-Driver
The 77-second Republican ad splices together video of Democrats Al Gore, Howard Dean and others, calling them John Kerry's "Coalition of the Wild-eyed." Interspersed among the clips are images of Hitler.

The images of Hitler were excerpted from a Kerry website, as explained in this letter from the Bush campaign.


Dear (George Bush Supporter),

On Thursday, the campaign launched a web video titled Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed.  The video featured Democrats who support John Kerry making negative and baseless attacks against the President.  Interspersed in the video were segments of two ads that appeared on a website sponsored by MoveOn.org - a group campaigning for Kerry - in January.

On Friday night, John Kerry's campaign denounced our use of these ads, and called that use "disgusting."

The Kerry campaign says, "The use of Adolf Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong."

We agree.  These ads, like much of the hate-filled, angry rhetoric of Kerry's coalition of the Wild-eyed, are disgusting.

We created this web video to show the depths to which these Kerry supporters will sink to win in November.

Is this the Democratic Party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt who reassured his countrymen we have nothing to fear but fear itself?

No.  This is John Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed, who have nothing to offer but fear-mongering.

Sincerely,

Ken Mehlman
Campaign Manager

5 posted on 06/26/2004 10:44:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: EggsAckley
Your link is dead. I'm having a little trouble believing this.

This is true! The Kerry campaign really did have the chutzpah to complain about this.

6 posted on 06/26/2004 10:44:46 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: GWTexan

Maybe I'm reading the article wrongly, but it seems as if the author is confused, not realizing that the images of Hitler are from the MoveOn.org ad, but are spliced in by the Bush campaign. It goes back to my earlier comment on this ad...it's confusing. For that reason alone, they should pull it.


7 posted on 06/26/2004 10:45:51 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents

The author is not confused. She's another left wing nut.


8 posted on 06/26/2004 10:47:17 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Sub-Driver

The author of this piece is a MORON.

The Bush ad includes the footage used in the moveon.org ad because the Bush ad IS SHOWING THE MOVEON.ORG AD, to demonstrate the irrational hate of the left.

This isn't a case of "They did it so we can too," it's a case of "Look at how insane they are."


SHEESH!


9 posted on 06/26/2004 10:49:15 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm **NOT** always **CRANKY**.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The clip is used in the "Faces Of John Kerry's Democrat Party" and is actual footage used from Democrat-supporting, moveon.org's attacks on President Bush.

If the democrats have a pproblem with the use of Hitler in an ad, the democrats should not have made and used the actual ad themselves.

10 posted on 06/26/2004 10:50:05 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I wrote a letter to the editor of that paper. This article is downright dishonest. The author knows that the ad isn't trying to compare democrats with Hitler and she knows the ad doesn't just randomly intersperse images of Hitler among the video clips of democrats.

She knows the clips are of democrats comparing Bush to Hitler and are used as an example of the wild-eyed accusations they've hurled at Bush.

I hope her article makes people seek out the ad and watch it for themselves.


11 posted on 06/26/2004 10:50:05 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a lousy, filthy lie by the AP. The Bush ad doesn't compare anyone to Hitler, it merely complains about Kerry's partners at Moveon.org copmparing Bush to Hitler, and the AP damn well knows it.


12 posted on 06/26/2004 10:51:33 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Sub-Driver
The following is an email I received from the Bush Cheney campaign, and I agree 1000 % with it.

From: GeorgeWBush.com
Date: 06/26/04 03:09:24
To: (My real name)
Subject: We Agree, It's Disgusting

Dear (My name),

On Thursday, the campaign launched a web video titled Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed. The video featured Democrats who support John Kerry making negative and baseless attacks against the President. Interspersed in the video were segments of two ads that appeared on a website sponsored by MoveOn.org - a group campaigning for Kerry - in January.

On Friday night, John Kerry's campaign denounced our use of these ads, and called that use "disgusting."

The Kerry campaign says, "The use of Adolf Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong."

We agree. These ads, like much of the hate-filled, angry rhetoric of Kerry's coalition of the Wild-eyed, are disgusting.

• Where was John Kerry's disgust when he hired Zack Exley - the man responsible for encouraging the production of these ads as part of a MoveOn contest - to run the Kerry campaign's internet operation?
• Where was John Kerry's sense of outrage when Al Gore, just yesterday afternoon, compared the Bush Administration to the Nazis saying, "The Administration works closely with a network of 'rapid response' digital Brown Shirts who work to pressure reporters and their editors for 'undermining support for our troops.'"
• Where was John Kerry's anger when Al Gore in May spoke of "Bush's Gulag"?
• Why has John Kerry not denounced billionaire and Democrat Party donor George Soros for comparing the Bush Administration to Nazis. Soros stated, "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans. It conjures up memories of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort mit ('The enemy is listening')."
• Why has Kerry not spoken out against filmmaker Michael Moore who last October compared the Patriot Act to Mein Kampf. "The Patriot Act is the first step. 'Mein Kampf' - 'Mein Kampf' was written long before Hitler came to power."

We created this web video to show the depths to which these Kerry supporters will sink to win in November.

Is this the Democratic Party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt who reassured his countrymen we have nothing to fear but fear itself?

No. This is John Kerry's Coalition of the Wild-eyed, who have nothing to offer but fear-mongering.

Sincerely,

Ken Mehlman
Campaign Manager

13 posted on 06/26/2004 10:52:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: My2Cents

The AP reporter knows the Hitler images are from the Move On ad but she's refusing to report it. She's just refusing to report it. It's just more deception and fraudulent reporting from the AP.


14 posted on 06/26/2004 10:52:17 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: My2Cents

Well, then they can't read, because the Bush ad has letters across the screen stating that the images came from Kerry supporters.

Here's a link to the Bush ad.

http://www.georgewbush.com/Default.aspx


15 posted on 06/26/2004 10:53:26 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: EggsAckley
You can see the ad here

New Bush Cheney Ad

16 posted on 06/26/2004 10:54:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Sub-Driver
This is a fight for the survival of the Republic....Nice guys finish LAST!
17 posted on 06/26/2004 10:55:03 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Sub-Driver
Amazing. (shaking head) Absolutely amazing.

Would James Carville have done this?

Ask yourself. Would bleep-ing James Carville have done this? Would George Stephanopolous have done this?

Would Donna Brazile have done this?

(steely)

18 posted on 06/26/2004 10:56:49 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: dawn53

It's not an issue of them not being able to read. It's an issue that the ad is confusing, the images in the ad are jumbled together without sufficient context, and the images flash by too quickly to actually figure out what's being presented. I think the ad is ieffective. The idea is a good one. The execution of idea is poor.


19 posted on 06/26/2004 10:58:11 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: jimbo123

Can't we simply accept the possibility that the ad is poorly done, Hitler or no Hitler?


20 posted on 06/26/2004 10:59:19 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: saleman
The ad uses MoveOn's ad showing Bush as Hitler. It doesn't depict any of the Dem's as Hitler

That's what I was thinking as I read this article and I haven't seen the ad, but I figured that Hitler was not displayed in the same way as he was in the Moveon ad.

21 posted on 06/26/2004 11:00:41 AM PDT by babaloo999 (Liberals say they're "Progressive". So is cancer.)
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To: My2Cents

My theory: the Bush people have no intention of airing this ad. They're just trying to sucker the media into pitching a hissy fit, and when it does (as it is doing, along with the Kerry campaign), the GWB people will point out that they were just replaying parts of the MoveOn ad. They're doing a judo move here, one that will redirect people's attention to the MoveOn ad and the over-the-top rhetoric of the Democrats and their surrogates.


22 posted on 06/26/2004 11:00:50 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Sub-Driver

How funny, the wild-eyed Democrats don't want the Bush administration to show just how wild they really are! Sorry guys, you lose on this one. Bush/Cheney are just showing the world, how low the Democrats are willing to stoop and all your wild eyed complaining will just bring more attention to the ad.


23 posted on 06/26/2004 11:01:48 AM PDT by Eva
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To: My2Cents
It's an issue that the ad is confusing, the images in the ad are jumbled together without sufficient context, and the images flash by too quickly to actually figure out what's being presented.

Haven't you watched any TV in the last several years? That's the way ads are done nowadays....

24 posted on 06/26/2004 11:02:06 AM PDT by willieroe
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To: Sub-Driver
"Coalition of the Wild-eyed."

Axis of The Loons
25 posted on 06/26/2004 11:03:02 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Sub-Driver

Thank you, FreeRepublic.

Reading the article alone would have led me to believe that President Bush is a demagogue.


26 posted on 06/26/2004 11:03:16 AM PDT by miltonim (The Spiritual Combat)
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To: Kaslin
Thanks for the link. Yup, the article is garbage. Typical desperate Dimocrat swine-wash.
27 posted on 06/26/2004 11:03:32 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........"John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute".........)
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To: Sub-Driver
Just more AP Bias.

Miss Jennifer, This ad being shown is YOUR PARTY's AD!!

You Stupid Biatch!

28 posted on 06/26/2004 11:04:50 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: EggsAckley

Believe it.

I saw it on FOX yesterday.

Good ad. It's been here on FR yesterday and today.

Where ya been?


29 posted on 06/26/2004 11:06:22 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: My2Cents

The author is not confused. She's another left wing nut.


30 posted on 06/26/2004 11:06:49 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Eva
The DUmmies are very confused.

They don't understand: it's five examples of wild-eyed Democrat party hate, including the Moveon.org ad.

31 posted on 06/26/2004 11:07:03 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm **NOT** always **CRANKY**.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a LIE, plain and simple.


32 posted on 06/26/2004 11:08:11 AM PDT by jayef
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To: LadyPilgrim

Working.


33 posted on 06/26/2004 11:10:56 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........"John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute".........)
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To: My2Cents

"It's not an issue of them not being able to read. It's an issue that the ad is confusing, the images in the ad are jumbled together without sufficient context, and the images flash by too quickly to actually figure out what's being presented. I think the ad is ieffective. The idea is a good one. The execution of idea is poor."

I disagree. The ad clearly marks, with subtitles, the portions that are Moveon.org ads. Yes they are brief but there is no mistaking it. This is only ineffective if any of the Bush team had said something similar, ie. Dem leaders being compared to Stalin or Pol Pot or Castro. Problem is there aren't any.

This ad was made for those that are going to vote for W or are leaning Independents. I don't think this ad is really targeted towards actual Dems.


34 posted on 06/26/2004 11:14:51 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: My2Cents
It's not an issue of them not being able to read. It's an issue that the ad is confusing, the images in the ad are jumbled together without sufficient context, and the images flash by too quickly to actually figure out what's being presented. I think the ad is ieffective. The idea is a good one. The execution of idea is poor.

I watched the ad yesterday. Today, it is slightly different, it is given more context. If you haven't seen it with several frames of "words" before the title, watch it again and see if the addition helps.

35 posted on 06/26/2004 11:17:20 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: My2Cents

I don't see how the ad is confusing at all. It is made quite clear that the Hitler images were pulled from MoveOn ads. It is not the best ad I have ever seen, but it gets the point across.

The journal(propagand)ist who wrote the article is just plain wrong.


36 posted on 06/26/2004 11:22:16 AM PDT by David75
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

After watching it, I don't like this ad.

Despite the explanation, some will believe that President Bush is comparing the shouting Democrats to Hitler.


37 posted on 06/26/2004 11:26:08 AM PDT by miltonim (The Spiritual Combat)
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To: Sub-Driver

I called my AP office here in Phoenix and spoke to the supervisor and told him that their story was mis-leading. I told that no one was calling anyone Hitler but showing an ad ran agaist Bush where they called Bush Hitler. But if you read just the acticle it seems that the Bush people did call them Hitler. I told him I watched the ad and that is not the case. He thanked me for my comments and that was it. I don't think just one call will make them change it but maybe if we all called it would be changed or a correction issued.


38 posted on 06/26/2004 11:29:16 AM PDT by zanarchist
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To: zanarchist
I called my AP office here in Phoenix and spoke to the supervisor and told him that their story was mis-leading...

Funny that you mentioned that.... I was going to post that the Commercial Appeal (Memphis) website added this story to the top of their main page this afternoon, which they did, briefly - but now that headline is no longer there.

39 posted on 06/26/2004 11:37:45 AM PDT by willieroe
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To: willieroe
Haven't you watched any TV in the last several years?

The last TV show I watched was Art Linkletter's "Houseparty".

Has TV changed any since then? Has it gotten more tasteful ("I Dream of Jeannie" was too revealing), more intelligent ("Playhouse 90" always trimmed a few minutes from the plays to fit the 90-minute format), and morally uplifting (Davey and Goliath were always getting into trouble) since then?

/sarcasm

40 posted on 06/26/2004 11:41:49 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: My2Cents
I think the ad is ieffective. The idea is a good one. The execution of idea is poor.

The ad is great. I don't understand what you don't get about it. Maybe I'm just confused.

41 posted on 06/26/2004 11:47:54 AM PDT by DonaldDuke
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To: Sub-Driver
I do not know if it will do any good, but I sent the following email to info@ap.org. They are swupposed to forward it to the actual reporter. I do not know who else may see it.

To Whom it may concern:

The story indicated below contains intentionally misleading statements which falsely imply that the Bush campaign is using images of Hitler to draw comparisons between the dictator and well known Democrats. Any objective person who views the add knows better. The Bush campaign add accurately portrays the actual attacks on President Bush by radical Democrats. There is no comparison drawn whatsoever between any Democrat and Hitler. The facts are being twisted to suit the aims of leftist ideology without deference to the truth. Jennifer Kerr should be fired or forced to resign immediately for this total disregard of objectivity and accurate reporting. Sincerely,

My Name


Hitler image used in Bush campaign Web ad

6/26/2004, 12:58 p.m. ET By JENNIFER C. KERR The Associated Press []

WASHINGTON (AP) ­ The image of Adolf Hitler has emerged again in the battle for the White House as Democrats and Republicans both have tried to liken their opponents to the Nazi dictator....

Lets get an email campaign going.
42 posted on 06/26/2004 11:56:44 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: My2Cents

There is one demon the Republicans left out of criticism - George (middle name?) Soros. Do you recall the clomor the leftists made over Richard (Mellon) Scaife and his financing of Republican causes? Where is the official Republican voice about the billionnaire financier of Move-On and its Nazi Bush ads? How does Soros escape the link to the Nazi ads?


43 posted on 06/26/2004 11:59:48 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: miltonim

I don't like the ad either, but that doesn't change the fact that the DEMO(N)cRATS are lying again.


44 posted on 06/26/2004 12:00:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Email to AP should be sent to: feedback@ap.org


45 posted on 06/26/2004 12:05:24 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
Found this web site:http://www.idsnews.com/profile.php?byline=Jennifer+C.+Kerr

and they give her email as letters@indiana.edu

46 posted on 06/26/2004 12:09:02 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Michael Moore, a true American HATRIOT!)
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To: Petronski; My2Cents

The fact that you have to explain this supports My2Cents' argument that the ad, while good in concept, was not executed properly.

I think the RNC should preserve the idea, but go back and try again. WE understand the ad, but does the average Joe on the street?

I too thought the ad was little disjointed. It was not clear that the Hitler image was from the other side, portraying Bush. It needs a little more Voiceover or something - not just a series of video and images spliced together. The ad needs to educate the common person about the wackiness of the Left, whereas all it currently does is show those who follow politics what they already know.

The fact that these types of articles are out proves this.

Try again RNC. We need to do better.


47 posted on 06/26/2004 12:17:29 PM PDT by bluefish (Disclaimer for Pukin: I do not believe Freepers should die for arguing with me.)
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To: NYCVirago
I'm having a little trouble believing this.

Here is the text from Kerry's campaign

"Yesterday, the Bush-Cheney campaign, losing any last sense of decency, placed a disgusting ad called "The Faces of John Kerry's Democratic Party" as the main feature on its website. Bizarrely, and without explanation, the ad places Adolf Hitler among those faces.

The Bush-Cheney campaign must pull this ad off of its website. The use of Adolf Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong.

We sent you a fundraising plea earlier this morning. But when this came up, we decided it was important to show you just what we're up against: a presidential campaign that is willing to do or say absolutely anything to win. You're our only line of defense against these underhanded tactics. Please contribute today:..... "

48 posted on 06/26/2004 12:18:43 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Sub-Driver

This "I know you are but what am I?" thing the Democrats always do just drives me insane. This is a perfect illustration of how they seek to frustrate those who tell the truth.

Well, here's some truth: Today's Democrats are evil.


49 posted on 06/26/2004 12:22:05 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (JUST SAY NO TO SIMS' CITY.)
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To: Yardstick

Interesting theory. In other words, use this strawman as a way in which to get free publicity to get the word out that the dems are so extreme they are comparing Bush to Hitler. If they aren't doing it with this ad, I think this idea you've mentioned is a great one and could be used over and over.


50 posted on 06/26/2004 12:40:41 PM PDT by plain talk
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