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Michael Moore Linked to Carlyle Group
NewsMax.com ^ | 6/27/04 | Carl Limbacher and the NewsMax.com staff

Posted on 06/27/2004 10:36:28 AM PDT by kattracks

In his film "Fahrenheit 9/11," Democratic Party propaganda-meister Michael Moore accuses President Bush of being too cozy with Osama bin Laden's relatives, claiming Bush once accepted money from an international investment consortium known as the Carlyle Group, on whose board bin Laden family members used to sit.

But it turns out that Moore, not Bush, may have the more active financial relationship with Carlyle. Reports Sunday's New York Post: "The Carlyle Group - which [Moore] bashes in the movie as some sort of shadowy war profiteering company - has become part owner of Loews Cinemas, which is currently showing his film."

How much of Caryle's bin Laden-tainted cash has found its way into Moore's pockets - the portly propagandist isn't saying.

But Sunday's Newsday debunks his claim that President Bush has any financial links to Osama's kin.

Citing Craig Unger's book "House of Bush, House of Saud," Moore invokes the name of James R. Bath, who served with Bush in the Texas Air National Guard and who managed the Texas investments for the Bin Ladin Group during the 1970s. Supposedly, one of their investments was in George W.'s Arbusto Energy.

Reports the paper:

"Moore implies the bin Ladens wanted to curry favor with Bush while his father was CIA director. But Unger's reporting - omitted by Moore - says that Bath denies putting bin Laden money in Arbusto."

The president's father was once a Carlyle adviser, but cut ties with the group after 9/11, as did the bin Laden relatives.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; carlylegroup; fahrenheit911; houseofbush

1 posted on 06/27/2004 10:36:29 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

I'm not suprised. It figures.


2 posted on 06/27/2004 10:42:20 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: kattracks

Well, okay but what's the point. Michael Moore is not the president. The idea that MM's relationship somehow affected the course of America or that his conflicts are on par with the elected officials is a joke. Newmax is like the Judicial Watch of news, all sound and fury signifying nothing.


3 posted on 06/27/2004 10:43:17 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: kattracks

Thank God for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Ashcroft. They have kept the USA safe.


4 posted on 06/27/2004 10:43:36 AM PDT by M007
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To: kattracks

" How much of Caryle's bin Laden-tainted cash has found its way into Moore's pockets - the portly propagandist isn't saying. "

As if we didn't already come to this conclusion, Moore is nothing but the same opportunistic ilk who breed like maggots in Hollywood ie. people like Moore, Madonna, the Weinstein brothers et al are WAR PROFITEERS. They never contribute to society in positive ways but take the spoils spun from pandering to fears, hatred, bigotry, dissention and wars. They are parasites who feed off the ravages of humanity. Pity them for they are weak and inferior.


5 posted on 06/27/2004 10:49:39 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: kattracks; MeekOneGOP; mhking

I'll want thsi confirmed through other sources, but...
hahahahaha!


6 posted on 06/27/2004 10:53:51 AM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: King Prout

I'm with you, I would love to see the "mainstream" leftist press report this. But even if they don't its really funny.


7 posted on 06/27/2004 10:59:34 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: King Prout
Not only is Moore an evil conspirator with the Carlyle group, but never forget:

Michael Moore dragged America into an unjust, unnecessary movie and lied about the reason for doing so. Moore claims that cinematic art was his aim, but all along he was only hoping to turn a buck for his shadowy antiwar friends...and the Carlyle group.

Hey Michael...there was no Movie of Mass Destruction! It was a pathetic, 2-hour high-school wank-a-thon! It will have less effect on the election than Shrek 2!

8 posted on 06/27/2004 11:01:25 AM PDT by Sender (Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. -Tolstoy)
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To: TheOtherOne

I think the point is that using the six degrees of separation theory, you could link any individual to any group. Moore and the other conspiracy theorists always draw some connection then leave open the implications without offering any outright proof of wrongdoing.
So Moore draws a connection between the President and Carlyle Group and leaves an implication of corruption because of that link. Well, now Newsmax shows a link between Moore and Carlyle. Is Michael Moore in thrall to the Carlyle, Saudis and oil companies because of this financial connection? Of course not. And neither is the President notwithstanding Moore's paranoid accusations.


9 posted on 06/27/2004 11:02:20 AM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: kattracks

I am amazed at how much some claim that bin laden has had influence with the Carlyle group.
If folks did their homework, they would be stunned to see otherwise. The Saudi's that are involved with Carlyle (and they are not the majority at all) are ones that seem to catch heat in their own homeland because they are not of the militant type and won't make deals with the militant folks. So MM's fat but is now part of Carlyle because Lowe's theaters is stupid enough to show his bogus film? That's pushing it.
BUT HECK, IF IT MAKES MOORE LOOK BAD...I'LL TAKE IT!


10 posted on 06/27/2004 11:11:54 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: kattracks

George Soros also big time investor with the Carlyle Group -
see what google search turned up. Let's keep this bumped for awhile.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=carlyle+soros&spell=1


11 posted on 06/27/2004 11:13:28 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: MizSterious; cyncooper

Did you all see this?


12 posted on 06/27/2004 11:32:55 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ArmyBratproud
BUT HECK, IF IT MAKES MOORE LOOK BAD...I'LL TAKE IT!

LOL!

At this point, I don't even care if it's true; I'm telling everybody!

13 posted on 06/27/2004 11:33:45 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Did you all see this?

I had not--I was googling in one window for stuff on the other thread.

Thank you for pinging me to this connection.

14 posted on 06/27/2004 11:36:07 AM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I DESPISE the media?)
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To: King Prout; Happy2BMe; devolve; PhilDragoo
LOL ! Sweet ! :^D

15 posted on 06/27/2004 11:49:36 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: kattracks; SunnySide; ArmyBratproud; Hostile

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Freepers Freep the 2003 OSCARS in support of BUSH and Freedom's Arrival to Iraq =

MICHAEL MOORE's "F-911" Movie funding from MEL GIBSON's ICON Productions is cancelled

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=883

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16 posted on 06/27/2004 1:05:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: TheOtherOne; Hostile; Howlin
"...all sound and fury signifying nothing."

Or, signifying that Moore has a closer tie with Carlyle than Bush does. In fact, given what has been turned up on other threads, I would not be at all surprised if documents were unearthed stating he was on AlQaeda's payroll. (So far, it hasn't happened.) He certainly seems to be actively working against this country's interests. If he's not on AQ's payroll, they have a wonderful volunteer for their cause.

17 posted on 06/27/2004 1:13:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping. Nope, hadn't seen it.


18 posted on 06/27/2004 1:15:12 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: kattracks
This whole Carlyle thing is so silly. They've got money everywhere. In the mideast, yes. In the midwest too. And the far east. And the far west. And the north and the northeast too for that matter.

They've got money in weapons, they've got money in energy. And in software, clothing, microchips, theaters, etc.

It's like saying that someone worked at Citibank, Citibank has branches in the mideast, therefore they're profiting from the mideast cronies.

19 posted on 06/27/2004 1:22:48 PM PDT by Koblenz (Not bad, not bad at all. -- Ronald Reagan, the Greatest President.)
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To: All
Click on the picture to give Michael Moore the finger:

click here for more FUPPETS you can print out

20 posted on 06/27/2004 1:24:43 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: Howlin

It's the first Moore thread I've read...just to giggle..


21 posted on 06/27/2004 3:48:31 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: TheOtherOne
The idea that MM's relationship somehow affected the course of America or that his conflicts are on par with the elected officials is a joke.

When in Mooreville, do as the Mooreviles do...

Hey, it's as strong a link and Moore presents, so that's good enough. Remember, he's playing by "Saul Alinsky Rules" and one of them is use your oppenent's rules against them.

Hey Mike, you're guilty!

22 posted on 06/27/2004 3:48:44 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Micheal Moore's a double agent. Who'da thunk it?


23 posted on 06/27/2004 9:28:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: TigersEye
Micheal Moore's a double agent. Who'da thunk it?

That's about the size of it...

24 posted on 06/27/2004 9:35:40 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Aaron0617
Freepers Freep the 2003 OSCARS in support of BUSH and Freedom's Arrival to Iraq =

hmm..that's an interesting thought. No doubt F-911 will be up for Best Documentary in March 2005 Oscars.

If he wins, should be a fun speech when Bush is re-elected

25 posted on 06/27/2004 9:41:56 PM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: TigersEye
Micheal Moore's a double agent. Who'da thunk it?

More like 4 agents shoved into one body....

26 posted on 06/28/2004 9:52:24 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: kattracks
I am looking forward to Spiderman II. Moore was smart to open against "Two White Girls" rather than a summer blockbuster.
27 posted on 06/28/2004 10:08:50 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: MizSterious

yeah but will they have to feed this "volunteer"? They're going in the red if they do.


28 posted on 06/28/2004 11:51:10 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: kattracks

bump


29 posted on 06/28/2004 7:23:44 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: Let's Roll

Bump


30 posted on 06/30/2004 6:30:14 PM PDT by Ethyl (,)
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