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Muslims Are Being Victimized Across the West (Cue the Violin Music!)
News from Russia.com ^ | June 26,2004 | Andrey Nesterov

Posted on 06/28/2004 11:51:37 AM PDT by cabrera

The British organization Islamic Human Rights Comission named the three biggest Islamophobes of 2004.

US President George Bush became 'Islamophobe of the Year ' for the overall war on terrorism.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was 'awarded' the title for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

The head of Israeli government shared the 'sucess' in the nomination of most Islamophobic politician with French President Jacque Chiraq who promoted the bill for the ban on wearing religious attributes in state schools.

According to the Islamic Human Rights Commission, many people can be called 'Islamophobes', and there is no sign that the situation will change for the better next year.

IHRC Chair Massoud Shadjareh said that demonizing of Moslems can be compared to the prosecution of Jews in World War II.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: muslims; victimology; victims; waaamulbance
I dont think this nutjob even believes what he is writing!
1 posted on 06/28/2004 11:51:38 AM PDT by cabrera
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To: cabrera

If "Islamophobia" is such a bad thing in the west, how come "Westophobia" or "Ameriphobia" in the Muslim world escapes without condemnation?


2 posted on 06/28/2004 11:53:48 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: cabrera

The best defense is a good offense, so if the wonderful Muslims are the ones victimizing, it's best to insist they're victims.


3 posted on 06/28/2004 11:53:49 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: cabrera

Oh Hell! Put me on the list too!


4 posted on 06/28/2004 11:55:02 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (The Arab Street is in need of a major sweeping.)
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To: cabrera
IHRC Chair Massoud Shadjareh said that demonizing of Moslems can be compared to the prosecution of Jews in World War II.

Wow! I hope Massoud Shadjareh will fill us all in on what country, currently, it is where this type of stuff is occurring. Ya know, the wholesale persecution and slaughter of the muslim population. I want details on all the camps, mass graves, and the like...

5 posted on 06/28/2004 11:55:10 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Custer was the first white man to wear an Arrow Shirt out West)
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To: cabrera

Solution: Quit the murdering!


6 posted on 06/28/2004 11:57:15 AM PDT by tkathy (nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Ya know, the wholesale persecution and slaughter of the muslim population. I want details on all the camps, mass graves, and the like...

I could be wrong but I think Saddam Hussein was doing this until some country in the West stopped him.

7 posted on 06/28/2004 11:57:48 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Massoud is still hanging on to the Bosnia campaign of 10 years ago to boost his fundraising coffers, i'm sure.


8 posted on 06/28/2004 11:58:12 AM PDT by cabrera
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To: cabrera

The U.S. liberates millions of Moslems from the boot of 3 decades of tryanny and President Bush is the world's number 1 Islamophobe. Incredible logic.


9 posted on 06/28/2004 11:58:43 AM PDT by mitchbert
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To: tkathy

Stopping the mass beheadings of Westerners in Saudi Arabia and Iraq would be a good faith PR move.


10 posted on 06/28/2004 11:59:46 AM PDT by cabrera
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Anyone recall a Christian making home videos of a Westerner hacking off the head of a Muslim?

Ever see a person of Jewish faith expressing a desire to rule the entire world?

Ever see a Catholic pledge to kill everyone not of Catholic faith?

Darn right we're phobic you crazy bastards.


11 posted on 06/28/2004 12:00:23 PM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: mitchbert

Michael Moore is probably their hero.


12 posted on 06/28/2004 12:00:46 PM PDT by cabrera
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To: cabrera

Probably. Either way, the man is so far out of touch it's almost funny, if it wasn't so pathetic...


13 posted on 06/28/2004 12:01:22 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Custer was the first white man to wear an Arrow Shirt out West)
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To: cabrera
IHRC Chair Massoud Shadjareh said that demonizing of Moslems can be compared to the prosecution of Jews in World War II.

Let's fix that quote, why don't we?

IHRC Chair Massoud Shadjareh said that demonizing of Moslems murdering innocents, and decapitating Westerners can be compared to the prosecution of Jews in World War II.

There. Now isn't that more accurate?

14 posted on 06/28/2004 12:02:40 PM PDT by mhking (Message to terrorists: "I've come to chew bubble gum and kick a**; and I'm all out of bubble gum...")
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To: cabrera

There's nothing wrong with Islamophobia... but there's a lot of wrong with Islam.


15 posted on 06/28/2004 12:07:23 PM PDT by aliquis
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To: mhking

Much better.


16 posted on 06/28/2004 12:09:20 PM PDT by cabrera
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To: cabrera

Islam -- A medieval religion with a code involving throat slitting, beheading, amputations-in-general, slavery, suicide bombings, intense hate, and subjugation of women.


17 posted on 06/28/2004 12:10:02 PM PDT by Stagerite
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To: cabrera

Yea well the Muslims haven't seen anything yet...
If there is another terrorist's attack in America like the one on 9/11; they'd better be prepared to pack up their camels and head back to where they came from because the manure will hit the fan and "victimization" will be the least of their problems!!!


18 posted on 06/28/2004 12:11:50 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: cabrera

Don't you have to be a victim to be victimized?

It would seem to me that they are the perps.


19 posted on 06/28/2004 12:13:42 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Stagerite

"Islam -- A medieval cult with a code involving throat slitting, beheading, amputations-in-general, slavery, suicide bombings, intense hate, and subjugation of women."

Yours had a single incorrect word. I fixed it for you.


20 posted on 06/28/2004 12:15:35 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: cabrera
I'll take our "Islamophobia" over EUro/Asian Islamophilia any day. The Islamophiles got us into this mess. They're in no position to make moral judgements.
21 posted on 06/28/2004 12:16:22 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cabrera
"Islamic Human Rights Commission"? Now THERE'S an oxymoron.
22 posted on 06/28/2004 12:17:02 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cabrera

23 posted on 06/28/2004 12:22:36 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: mhking

Much more accurate, thank you


24 posted on 06/28/2004 12:24:50 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cabrera

To quote another Freeper,

perhaps they will do some soul searching and ask, "Why don't they like us."


25 posted on 06/28/2004 12:25:58 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: cake_crumb

The Islamic human rights commission should clean up their own backyard in Saudi first and stop treating their women like dogs.


26 posted on 06/28/2004 12:27:13 PM PDT by cabrera
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To: cabrera

If you want to see mohammedans "victimized," then just wait until we are hit again here at home by the islamists. I would not want to be a mohammedan in America if we are hit with a WMD, because the gloves of the American PEOPLE will come off, and with a vengeance.


27 posted on 06/28/2004 12:30:54 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: cabrera

Naziphobe
Commiephobe
Auschwitzaphobe
PolPotophobe
Stalinophobe
Hitleraphobe
Sewageaphobe
Syphillisaphobe
Ghonorreahphobe
AIDSaphobe
Homophobe
Democrataphobe
Clintonophobe
Rapeophobe
Lyingsakacrapophobe
Islamophobe

There are just some things in life it's only smart to have a 'healthy' fear of ...or fear of becoming like...


28 posted on 06/28/2004 12:31:37 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: aimhigh

Just because our religion demands that we kill or enslave you, and justifies the ongoing murder of women and children, you don't like us. What's up with that?

Truly a religion of the clueless.


29 posted on 06/28/2004 12:31:38 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: cabrera
Linda Vester interviewed Paul Williams who authored Osama's Revenge. He said Osama has some 20 suitcase nukes and some of those very probably are already in the US. Additionally, he said Osama has some 5,000 operatives inside the US.

If Osama or similar set off nukes, dirty bombs, or other WMD go off and kill tens or hundreds of thousands, Muslims won't be safe anywhere outside maybe Saudi Arabia.
30 posted on 06/28/2004 12:34:20 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Jagdgewehr

Me, too. I surrender. Cuff me.


31 posted on 06/28/2004 12:34:50 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: joesnuffy

Beheadingophobe.


32 posted on 06/28/2004 12:35:34 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: cabrera

Must be all the dead Muslims here in the US.

What's the body count so far, 19?


33 posted on 06/28/2004 12:38:08 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Bikers4Bush

You might want to examine your reasoning in classifying Islam as a cult -- instead of properly classifying it as a religion.


34 posted on 06/28/2004 12:39:30 PM PDT by Stagerite
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To: TomGuy

If Yomama Osama had any suitcase nukes, any nukes at all, something would have already gone boom.


35 posted on 06/28/2004 12:41:08 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: cabrera

How do I sign up for that 'Islamaphobe List'?


36 posted on 06/28/2004 12:42:54 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( )
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To: cabrera

bump


37 posted on 06/28/2004 12:47:06 PM PDT by VOA
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To: cabrera

Considering the current environment, I'm sure there are instances of lawless violence and threats directed against Muslims, but nowhere near the extent the author wants to assert. Should anyone engage in criminal acts, regardless of the target, they should be prosecuted and I have no reason to believe they won't be.


38 posted on 06/28/2004 12:49:34 PM PDT by nosofar ("I'm not above the Law. I am the Law!" - Judge Dredd)
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To: cabrera
Islamophobia would be the fear of Islam.
I'm afraid of my daughters being treated as property.
I'm afraid of my church being burned.
I'm afraid of my country being destroyed.
I'm afraid of being given the choice of submit or be tortured and killed.
OK, I'm guilty, just bear in mind that a frightened Magslinger is a dangerous Magslinger.
39 posted on 06/28/2004 12:51:40 PM PDT by magslinger (Happiness depends on being free, and freedom depends on being courageous. Thucydides)
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To: cabrera

It's about time someone started kicking their asses.


40 posted on 06/28/2004 12:56:24 PM PDT by the_rightside (Union Corruption: www.nlpc.org)
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To: Stagerite

Here's one: if you try to leave, they kill you.


41 posted on 06/28/2004 1:00:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: magslinger

"Islamophobia would be the fear of Islam."

Precisely. I think that Bush has significantly demonstrated that he has no fear of Islam. Sharon even more so.

As far as the French and Spaniards, they're little more that sniveling cowards.


42 posted on 06/28/2004 1:06:48 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: wyattearp

islamofascist calling us islamophobes?


43 posted on 06/28/2004 2:10:01 PM PDT by SGTARKyTEK
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

'Must be all the dead Muslims here in the US.

What's the body count so far, 19?'

Good one.


44 posted on 06/28/2004 2:44:09 PM PDT by bitt ("I am sick and tired of it and I am not going to take it anymore.")
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To: cabrera

I'd own em all.

If there are still enough muzzies to complain, then we are nowhere near where we need to be in regards to muzlim victimization.


45 posted on 06/28/2004 2:49:51 PM PDT by Stopislamnow (Get it yet?)
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To: cabrera
Remember Folks:

Your continued trust is of strategic importance if the beheading and slaughtering of innocence at the hand of islam is to continue.

How many trusted their hi-jackers on 9/11 ?

47 posted on 06/28/2004 3:41:30 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: cabrera

Lemme guess. Mosques full of peaceful, unarmed Muslims are being shot up and bombed. Hundreds of American grade schools teach lessons that involve screaming murderous invectives. PBS and major newspapers publish editorials praising and defending these atrocities. Crowds of cheering American youths lynch and torture Muslims security guards.
What?! None of these things have happened?


48 posted on 06/28/2004 4:24:22 PM PDT by Central_Floridian (Let's roll!)
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To: cabrera

Kofi Annan offers hope for equitable, stable world
UN secretary-general speaks at Afternoon Exercises
By Ken Gewertz
Harvard News Office

Multinationalism, collective decision-making, and the rule of law - these offer
Kofi Annan was the speaker June 10 at Harvard's Afternoon Exercises. The bursts of applause that interrupted his talk at frequent intervals suggested that many in the audience approved of his multilateral message. (Staff photo Rose Lincoln/Harvard News Office)
the best hope of achieving a stable and equitable world order, according to United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

Annan was the speaker June 10 at Harvard's Afternoon Exercises. The bursts of applause that interrupted his talk at frequent intervals suggested that many in the audience approved of his multilateral message.

"It is in the interest of every country to have international rules and to abide by them," Annan said. "And such a system can only work if, in devising and applying the rules, the legitimate interests and points of view of different countries are accommodated, and decisions are reached collectively. That is the essence of multilateralism, and the founding principle of the United Nations. All great American leaders have understood this."

Annan praised the key role the United States played in reconstructing Europe after World War II and in establishing the United Nations. American power has been a vital element in achieving both these goals, he said, "But what makes that power effective, as an instrument of progressive change, is the legitimacy it gains from being deployed within a framework of international law and multilateral institutions and in pursuit of the common interest."

The world today faces a crisis of collective security, Annan said. The availability of weapons of mass destruction plus the proliferation of terrorism makes "the strong feel almost as vulnerable to the weak as the weak feel vulnerable to the strong."

Faced with this crisis, some have argued that the preventive use of force is the only sensible response to the threat of possible attack.


During Morning Exercises, afternoon speaker Kofi Annan sits with other honorands just before receiving his honorary degree. (Staff photo Kris Snibbe/Harvard News Office)

"Indeed, the combination of global terrorism, possible proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and the existence of rogue and dysfunctional states does face us with a new challenge," Annan said. "The United Nations was never meant to be a suicide pact. But what kind of world would it be, and who would want to live in it, if every country was allowed to use force, without collective agreement, simply because it thought there might be a threat?"

Annan said that he has appointed a "panel of eminent persons" to look into the questions of when the threat of international aggression warrants the taking of pre-emptive action and how the international community should respond to such a danger. He said that he expects the panel's recommendations by the end of 2004.

Annan also said that the UN must formulate new rules for dealing with genocide and crimes against humanity, rules that would ensure that the international response is not too little and too late, as it was in Bosnia and Rwanda. The civil war in Sudan, which has already resulted in terrible suffering and destruction, is one example of a humanitarian crisis waiting to be resolved, and Annan urged the international community to pressure the Sudanese government to "put its house in order."

The world also faces a crisis of solidarity, Annan said, which could result in a failure to meet the goals that were set four years ago at the UN Millennium Summit - goals such as improving the quality of drinking water, improving education, reducing infant and maternal mortality, and halting the spread of HIV/AIDS.

The third crisis facing the world today is one of prejudice and intolerance, Annan said.


Pomp, circumstance, light showers: Under an unsteady morning drizzle, Kofi Annan receives his honorary doctorate. (Staff photo Justin Ide/Harvard News Office)

"We must not allow ourselves, out of fear or anger, to treat people whose faith or culture differs from ours as enemies. We must not allow ourselves to blame Islam or to suspect all Muslims because a small number of Muslims commit acts of violence and terror. We must not allow anti-Semitism to disguise itself as a reaction to Israeli government policies - any more than we should allow all questioning of those policies to be silenced with accusations of anti-Semitism."

In closing, Annan urged the American graduates of Harvard to "live up to your country's best traditions of global commitment and global leadership."

To the international students who are members of the Class of 2004, he said: "Tell your fellow citizens back home to look beyond facile stereotypes about this country. Whatever you think of particular American policies, you have been here long enough to know the dynamism of American society, and the generosity of the American spirit."

To all the graduates, he said: "Now is not the time to abandon our rule-based international system. Let us preserve it. Let us improve it. And let us pass it on - intact, and stronger than ever!"


49 posted on 06/28/2004 5:48:42 PM PDT by take
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To: cabrera
IHRC Chair Massoud Shadjareh said that demonizing of Moslems can be compared to
the prosecution of Jews in World War II.


Darn it, they're on to us.
Guess they must have found those orders for Zyklon B and ovens in the
Congressional budget...
50 posted on 06/28/2004 5:50:46 PM PDT by VOA
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