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12 WEEK OLD BABY WALKS IN THE WOMB!
The BBC. Pip Pip Cheerio! ^

Posted on 06/28/2004 1:31:10 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Scans uncover secrets of the womb

Baby 'walking' in the womb A new type of ultrasound scan has produced the vivid pictures of a 12 week-old foetus "walking" in the womb. The new images also show foetuses apparently yawning and rubbing its eyes.

The scans, pioneered by Professor Stuart Campbell at London's Create Health Clinic, are much more detailed than conventional ultrasound.

Professor Campbell has previously released images of unborn babies appearing to smile.

He has compiled a book of the images called Watch Me Grow.

Conventional ultrasound, usually offered to mothers at 12 and 20 weeks, produces 2D images of the developing foetus.

These are very useful for helping doctors to measure and assess the growth of the foetus, but convey very little information about behaviour.

Complex behaviour

More pictures of developing foetuses Professor Campbell has perfected a technique which not only produces detailed 3D images, but records foetal movement in real time.

He says his work has been able to show for the first time that the unborn baby engages in complex behaviour from an early stage of its development.

Professor Campbell told the BBC: "This is a new science for understanding and mapping out the behaviour of the baby.

"Maybe in the future it will help us understand and diagnose genetic disease, maybe even conditions like cerebral palsy which puzzles the medical profession as to why it occurs."

The images have shown:

From 12 weeks, unborn babies can stretch, kick and leap around the womb - well before the mother can feel movement

From 18 weeks, they can open their eyes although most doctors thought eyelids were fused until 26 weeks

From 26 weeks, they appear to exhibit a whole range of typical baby behaviour and moods, including scratching, smiling, crying, hiccoughing, and sucking. Until recently it was thought that smiling did not start until six weeks after birth.

An hour long session using the new technology, which is not yet available on the NHS, costs £275.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 4d; baby; catholiclist; life; prenataldevelopment; professorcampbell; stuartcampbell; walks
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To: streetpreacher
Our courts are insane.

From Judge Hamilton's ruling.

Planned Parenthood et al. v. Ashcroft

f. Maternal and Fetal Health Concerns Finally, plaintiffs presented evidence that for certain women or certain fetuses, an intact D&E may be the best option for their particular health situation. See, e.g., Tr. Vol. 11 at 1762:8-25 (Chasen, noting that intact D&E is the quickest and therefore the safest procedure for these women); see also Tr. Vol. 6 at 943:4-944:19 (government witness Bowes, testifying that doctors should be allowed to use their judgment in determining whether any particular procedure is in a patient’s best interest, including intact D&E).

151 posted on 06/28/2004 4:55:31 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: Lazamataz
I thought 12 week old fetus's were walking on the MOON.

It's a new baby dance call the "Womb Walk".

152 posted on 06/28/2004 5:37:32 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Evil doesn't want to leave you alone. It wants to draw you in and force you into complicity. - Keyes)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Amen. I pray, fervently, every day for such an outcome.

How people can continue to support such barbarity is beyond me.

153 posted on 06/28/2004 6:12:57 PM PDT by Malacoda
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To: ConservativeMan55

You just GOTTA see the video if you haven't.

I was surprised - and glad - that the very end of the news segment said that this video is 'sure to open the public debate about abortion'.

It was also great to hear and see how excited both the MSNBC announcers and the BBC announcer were about these remarkable pictures.

I pray that the bubble of self-deception in the public mind about abortion is breaking.

-- Joe


154 posted on 06/28/2004 6:25:25 PM PDT by Joe Republc
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To: cpforlife.org

Great pics bump.


155 posted on 06/28/2004 7:27:13 PM PDT by fatima (My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: ConservativeMan55

"Unviable Tissue Mass" bump


156 posted on 06/28/2004 7:40:38 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


157 posted on 06/28/2004 8:02:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ConservativeMan55

These images are amazing! Thanks so much for the ping... I'll ping my list here also.


158 posted on 06/28/2004 9:46:56 PM PDT by nutmeg (Bush 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Gotta see this ping! Video links in post #136.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

159 posted on 06/28/2004 9:48:48 PM PDT by nutmeg (Bush 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks!


160 posted on 06/28/2004 9:52:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Pro-lifie bump!


161 posted on 06/28/2004 9:55:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Wow, in this one the kid is doing a W C Fields impression...


162 posted on 06/28/2004 9:58:00 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Really birth has to be traumatic. No wonder the kid comes out cross

Although Cesarean births are necessary some times, a baby is better off being squeezed through the birth canal. This process does something to form his body and head correctly.

Not that a C-section kid will have problems cause he/she didn't get the "big squeeze."

But the reason for my post is because of the comment that the kid comes out cross.

First of all, I imagine it is just a flippant comment, but it is amazing the difference between my two son's gestation and births.

The first one was always moving and kicking keeping busy. It was quite difficult for my wife.

When he came out he was a little drugged because of the pain relief his Mother decided to use.

But it wasn't long before he started getting mobile.

When he was just a few months old, and we didn't expect him to be able to move across the bed he did...and landed on the floor!

Needless to say he was a very curious and busy boy.

My second son during gestation was very mellow, and didn't move much. Smooth pregnancy for his mother.

He was born at home (a cabin in the Santa Cruz Mountains) with an ob/gyn and his wife a nutritionist in attendance.

I got a little anxious, as I could see the kids hair when they arrived!

I could have handled it if I had to , I had been at about 3 births before that with no doctors or midwifes in attendance.

Well to wrap it up, this second son...when he came out...he was mellow and quiet and smiling.

Quite a contrast.

Now my daughter's birth...LOL just kidding, I won't go into that one now...

163 posted on 06/28/2004 10:21:02 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: ConservativeMan55
A new type of ultrasound scan has produced the vivid pictures of a 12 week-old foetus "walking" in the womb. The new images also show foetuses apparently yawning and rubbing its eyes.

I don't expect to see this in any of the major media here. They will have to answer for this some day.

164 posted on 06/29/2004 5:06:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The Hard Truth shows the darker side of this story, unborn children torn to pieces in their mothers' wombs.
165 posted on 06/29/2004 5:14:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dansangel

ping..........


166 posted on 06/29/2004 5:28:58 AM PDT by .45MAN ("Vote for Life, Vote for Freedom ,Vote for Bush")
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To: ican'tbelieveit; *Catholic_list
MSNBC has video online:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032076/

Dear God, the video is so beautiful!

Even the BBC reporter had to close by saying, "this will reopen the debate regarding abortion."

Please forward the above link to as many people as possible!

(Make sure you tell people that they'll have to sit through a 15 second "Red Zone" deodorant commercial before the video begins, which seems sacrilegious, to say the least).

167 posted on 06/29/2004 5:30:04 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: phil1750
It explains how the democRATS are aborting themselves into extinction.

It's not true, because they steal our children away from us in the government reeducation centers.

168 posted on 06/29/2004 5:32:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
I was just showing this to my son. I have shown it to people at work, passed in on via email, IM. Incredible... just told my son that sometimes God gets tired of our garbage and smacks us over the head with a 2x4.

When I was in high-school in the 80's, someone brought in a presentation about abortion. They had pictures of little hands, etc, of supposed aborted babies. After the presentation, the teacher of the class told us that was garbage. That unborn fetuses that are aborted do not have anything that resembles a human in parts.

So, in watching this video, I am reminded of that. Especially when they talk about the men kissing the monitor or their wives abdomens. We have been led to believe that at 12 weeks, the unborn child is nothing but a blob of uninterpretable flesh. Guess what, scientists can be wrong.
169 posted on 06/29/2004 5:34:31 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Puddleglum
Someone ought to fund a documentary on the miracle of life in the womb and get it into theaters.

I'm sure Michael Moore will bankroll a film exposing this grave injustice. Can't you picture him chasing abortionists to their cars waving a portable DVD player in their faces showing this video? OK, maybe not.

Mel Gibson on the other hand... Mel, are you out there?

170 posted on 06/29/2004 5:37:34 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
After the presentation, the teacher of the class told us that was garbage. That unborn fetuses that are aborted do not have anything that resembles a human in parts.

And how many women in that class have gone on to have abortions, partly due to that teacher's actions? Tragic. Hopefully, he'll see the video and repent.

We have been led to believe that at 12 weeks, the unborn child is nothing but a blob of uninterpretable flesh. Guess what, scientists can be wrong.

I talked to a doctor who did 3D ultrasounds for a crisis pregnancy center. He said 85% of the women who see their babies choose not to abort them, compared to 15% of the women who receive simple counseling alone.

4D ultrasounds will undoubtedly boost those numbers, and word is sure to get out on the street. But CPC's need money to buy this equipment...

171 posted on 06/29/2004 5:46:36 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
I'm sure Michael Moore will bankroll a film exposing this grave injustice. Can't you picture him chasing abortionists to their cars waving a portable DVD player in their faces showing this video? OK, maybe not.

Mel Gibson on the other hand... Mel, are you out there?

Someone needs to give the abortion industry the Michael Moore treatment. They are scum from their polished talking heads to their money-grubbing butchers. I hope Mel or someone equally enterprising will do such a big-screen expose. The small screen tends to get gauzed in sanitized terms and sensivity filtering.

172 posted on 06/29/2004 6:22:06 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Kerry loathes you but will tolerate your vote, peon!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I would be just as happy if this doctor didn't get a clear view of his prey.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/11493605?source=Evening%20Standard&preview=null


173 posted on 06/29/2004 6:43:53 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Aquinasfan

The teacher was an e-lite she. Thank God I went to a small school, so she couldn't corrupt too many kids for the years she was there. But I was ridiculed for my belief that every life was special and deserved a chance.


174 posted on 06/29/2004 7:58:44 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ConservativeMan55

To All:

This is a well-thought-out response, so please, no flames. Any flames will be ignored, because I have no desire to fight.

I have previously posted on FR (and been roundly spanked for it) that it was my belief that abortion should be outlawed beyond the point of fetal viability. Meaning, that once the baby has a 50% chance of surviving on its own outside the womb, that abortion should be illegal.

Many folks posted to me that my stance was unreasonable, because, "Why was the baby any less a baby one day before my magical time limit?" They also asked if that time limit should be moved backward as medical technology progressed to where we could save younger and younger babies (I said "yes" to that).

I thought that it was a reasonable compromise that would have the immediate effect of preventing at least some abortions.

Okay, now to the point ...

After seeing these pictures, I cannot justify my previous position. These babies are much younger than anything that current medical technology could save, yet, they're clearly babies.

If these pictures can change my mind, they can change other minds. Maybe just living in the world we live in will make abortion unacceptable, whether illegal or not.

It's unacceptable for me now, in any case. Y'all were right and I was wrong.

Flame me all you want for my past beliefs, but I won't respond.


175 posted on 06/29/2004 8:09:24 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ConservativeMan55

This article is surely bogus. Everybody knows it is just a mass of cells and such until 9 months and one minute have passed. It's not alive until it is completely out of the mother. Everybody knows that dumby ! </sarcasm>


176 posted on 06/29/2004 8:12:46 AM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: small_l_libertarian

You know, God has ways of reaching people. I am so glad you were able to see these precious babies.


177 posted on 06/29/2004 8:27:57 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Thank you.

I guess I really shouldn't respond to positive posts, either. I wasn't trying to attract attention to myself - I just wanted to do the right thing and admit to those folks that I argued with that I was wrong.

So, no more responding at all.


178 posted on 06/29/2004 8:45:34 AM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: phil1750
It is posted o FR over here.
179 posted on 06/29/2004 9:22:59 AM PDT by ELS
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To: LadyDoc

Did you see this? Beautiful!


180 posted on 06/29/2004 12:08:57 PM PDT by ELS
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To: ConservativeMan55

Wow!


181 posted on 06/29/2004 12:11:25 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: ConservativeMan55

These pictures are absolutely stunning!


182 posted on 06/29/2004 12:13:37 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: RikaStrom
They're already starting the sibling rivalry?

Jacob & Esau fought in utero: But the children struggled together within her... Genesis 25:22a (NASB)

183 posted on 06/29/2004 12:24:34 PM PDT by madison10
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Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act, S.2466, H.R. 4420, Take Action, A Fetus Feels Pain

12 WEEK OLD BABY WALKS IN THE WOMB!

Fetal pain and our disconnect

Scans uncover secrets of the womb (With PICS)

12-week-old 'walks' in womb: New scans reveal unborns' complex behavior at early stage

12 WEEK OLD BABY WALKS IN THE WOMB!

Scans uncover secrets of the womb (With PICS)

In New Tests for Fetal Defects, Agonizing Choices

In New Tests for Fetal Defects, Agonizing Choices for Parents

Viable fetus is a person, (KY) court says

* A 22-week-old unborn boy scratches, rubs and pats his cheek, then his nose, indicating that fetuses are capable of fine finger movements from an early age.

* Fetuses as young as 11 weeks not only sucked their thumbs, but one brought his toes to his mouth, then searched around until he found the biggest to latch onto.

* At 12 weeks, some fetuses were already yawning and rubbing their eyes.

* Fetuses as young as 18 weeks were seen opening their eyes. That's about eight weeks earlier than they were previously thought to be able to do so.

* After 26 weeks, the fetuses behaved like typical newborns to an extent, scratching, crying and smiling.

 

New ultrasound technology shows 12-week-old unborn child 'walking' in womb (Photo: BBC News).
New technology reveals behavior of unborn (Courtesy Sky News)

184 posted on 06/29/2004 1:26:24 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...

just saw a plug for upcoming segment on Fox News about walking unborn in next few minutes


185 posted on 06/29/2004 4:30:50 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

bttt


186 posted on 06/29/2004 4:37:52 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: small_l_libertarian
Thanks for your post...these pictures are truly remarkable.
187 posted on 06/29/2004 4:44:12 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: ConservativeMan55

Beautiful and incredible pictures, the kind which spread the pro-life message most effectively. Thank you for posting them.


188 posted on 06/29/2004 6:49:01 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

God help America for the attrocities of murder we are committing against these precious little ones. It will NOT go unpunished. Thanks for sending these photos. My hubby saw this on Fox News and was in awe at the intricate creation of God yet in the womb.


189 posted on 06/30/2004 10:15:40 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog

bttt


190 posted on 06/30/2004 10:16:14 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: cpforlife.org
Thanks for the ping!

My sister is pregnant right now, and I had the chance to be at her ultrasound a couple weeks ago (I think it was at 20 weeks) and it was awesome. We saw the baby moving her arms, and we saw her open her mouth (the lady doing the ultrasound said she was yawning!) It was very cool... I'll be an aunt in November!

191 posted on 07/03/2004 10:54:02 PM PDT by incindiary (Isaiah 53:5)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Video: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165307/posts


192 posted on 07/04/2004 12:19:02 PM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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To: miltonim

Thanks!


193 posted on 07/04/2004 3:32:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: incindiary
"I'll be an aunt in November!"

Awesome! Congratulations to your sister and whole family.

However, YOU ALREADY ARE AN AUNT.

194 posted on 07/05/2004 1:18:57 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: ConservativeMan55


195 posted on 11/11/2004 4:27:44 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya!)
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