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History Will Not be Kind to Clinton
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 6/29/04 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 06/29/2004 1:16:31 AM PDT by kattracks

Since 1960 we have had only two politically successful presidents -- reaffirmed and re-elected, dominating their decades: Reagan and Clinton. (Except for Kennedy, whose presidency was cut short, the others -- Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter and Bush [41] -- were repudiated.) Clinton's autobiography, appearing as it does in such close conjunction to the national remembrance of Reagan, invites the inevitable comparison.

The contrast is obvious. Reagan was the hedgehog who knew -- and did -- a few very large things: fighting and winning the Cold War, reviving the economy and beginning a fundamental restructuring of the welfare state. Clinton was the fox. He knew -- and accomplished -- small things. His autobiography is a perfect reflection of that: a wild mish-mash of remembrance, anecdote, appointment calendar and political payback. The themeless pudding of a million small things is just what you would expect from a president who once gave a Saturday radio address on school uniforms.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; krauthammer

1 posted on 06/29/2004 1:16:31 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
kattracks, you are always up late -- are you in CA? And you always post the most interesting articles. Thank you.
2 posted on 06/29/2004 1:29:17 AM PDT by CalifornianConservative (Two legs good - George Orwell)
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To: kattracks
Geez...this is a take no prisoners kind of article. I like that.

slick willie, what a putz.

3 posted on 06/29/2004 1:32:36 AM PDT by Republic
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To: All
The true "legacy" of the man I dubbed "Little Big Fraud" is in my links, and in my tagline:

     



-Hillary Clinton- archives, comments, and opposition research --

-The Clinton Files--

-Murder, Inc. [repost] --

-ATTENTION BLOODHOUNDS--

-Women in the Clinton Era: Abuse,Intimidation and Smears--

Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention

Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
 


4 posted on 06/29/2004 1:35:00 AM PDT by backhoe (A Nuke for every Kook... what a Clinton "legacy...")
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To: backhoe

By my standards, another puffball. Just hearing Rush talk about Vince Foster was harder hitting than this. One thing I didn't know, even after having read Ruddy's book, was all the pressure being put on the media to tone down Foster reports. They told the media that it could damage the economy. As word came out it was a possible murder, the stocks were spiralling, and they blamed Rush for it. They claimed that Rush caused it by talking about it, and the paper that was going to break a report chickened out, best I could tell, after hearing Limbaugh. Could it be that Ken Starr manipulated the Foster investigation, hamstringing Rodriguez, believing that blood could trickle uphill and corpses could levitate, that Ken Starr did all that in the name of stock market stability?


5 posted on 06/29/2004 1:48:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (John Kerry's coalition of the wild-eyed)
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To: backhoe

To be clear, I don't blame Limbaugh. He just wanted the truth out. The paper chickened out, probably from the 'do it for the economy' routine.


6 posted on 06/29/2004 1:50:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (John Kerry's coalition of the wild-eyed)
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To: kattracks

As most always, the best is said in the last paragraph.


7 posted on 06/29/2004 1:51:25 AM PDT by malia (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: backhoe

It seems to me that the left wing media was able to set a tone about how to talk about Clinton as recently as the late '90s. Or maybe it was the FBI file threat that set the tone. Even today, Rush is being attacked, and I believe it is because of his willingness to talk about Foster, Waco, etc. Any high profile media figure who does that is vulnerable. I still wonder if Clinton was behind the outing of James Traficant.

Regardless of why, the New Media is bogged down by a tone set by the leftists of the '90s. They seem locked in, somehow, despite overwhelming facts. It's like cattle being herded.


8 posted on 06/29/2004 1:57:11 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (John Kerry's coalition of the wild-eyed)
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To: kattracks
Clintoon don`t count, he stole the second election. Not to sound like a whining `Rat but here in NYC when I went to the polls that time, the Clintoonistas where handing out cards and stuff to the voters in the polling place tellng them to vote for Mr. Bufoon. Illegal? Of course it was, but since when does the word "illegal" have any meaning when it comes to `Rats?
9 posted on 06/29/2004 2:09:23 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (959 days since 911. I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Funny you should mention those FBI files... I wish I had saved the link, because somewhere- and this was net stuff, so take it with a grain of salt- I read the Clintons had over 3,000 FBI files on reporters, entertainers, media types, as well as most political opponents.

If even remotely accurate, it explains how they were able to cling to power.

10 posted on 06/29/2004 2:23:29 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

I don't know why the author of the article includes Nixon as being repudiated by the voters. Nixon won re-election in a land slide in 1972. Of course Eisenhower easily won re-election and dominated the 50's. FDR dominated the 30's and the 40's and would probably have been re-elected if he had lived.


11 posted on 06/29/2004 3:28:11 AM PDT by jmeagan
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To: backhoe
Well, just the 900 Republicans' files, and then the 1100 others pulled in alphabetical order!

No Republican president could have survived any such revelation; you can stack whatever you think of Abu Graab on top of whatever you think of Iran Contra and it doesn't match Filegate. To have 2000 counts of a felony in the WH, and to do nothing but fire one flunky!! But of course, Congress was Democratic back then, so there was no danger of impeachment - and even when the Republicans took Congress they didn't have a mandate to revisit Filegate.

But certainly, no Republican could have been renominated unopposed - let alone reelected - with a Filegate on his record.

12 posted on 06/29/2004 3:41:16 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Facts? We're objective journalists - we don't NEED no stinkin' facts!")
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To: backhoe
Craig Livingstone.

THE PAPER TRAIL

13 posted on 06/29/2004 3:44:28 AM PDT by IncPen (Proud member of the Half Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter

... ping


14 posted on 06/29/2004 3:48:28 AM PDT by IncPen (Proud member of the Half Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: IncPen

Copied & saved- thanks!


15 posted on 06/29/2004 3:57:56 AM PDT by backhoe (Sleep tight, Ronnie... you reminded me of my Dad so much...)
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To: backhoe
no Republican could have been renominated unopposed - let alone reelected - with a Filegate on his record.

As far as I'm concerned, the first question any Democratic presidential candidate should answer is, "You didn't oppose the renomination and reelection of Bill Clinton after Filegate. What has the Republican candidate done which compares to the commission of 2000 felonies in the WH basement followed by no prosecutions and only one firing? Why do you oppose the reelection of Mr. Bush if he has been trustworthy, when you supported the reelection of Mr. Clinton knowing that he was not?

Anyone who thinks that journalism doesn't favor Democrats (hello, Michael Moore) should just hold their breath waiting for a journalist to ask a Democrat that!

16 posted on 06/29/2004 4:04:17 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Facts? We're objective journalists - we don't NEED no stinkin' facts!")
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To: IncPen

bump


17 posted on 06/29/2004 4:04:59 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam '70)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Didn't one of the Watergate guys get prison for ONE FBI file? Charles Colson, maybe?


18 posted on 06/29/2004 4:13:34 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: backhoe

Surely some of these 700 people whos FBI files were held were clean. Having an FBI file is no big deal if there is nothing bad in it. Why couldn't some of these clean people have stood up to clinton? Am I naive?


19 posted on 06/29/2004 4:17:21 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
Surely some of these 700 people whos FBI files were held were clean. Having an FBI file is no big deal if there is nothing bad in it. Why couldn't some of these clean people have stood up to clinton? Am I naive?

God knows I hate to quote anyone from the Clinton administration, but Bill Cohen correctly identified FBI files as "raw sewage..."

I have one on me.

Think about this very carefully- imagine what every person you ever ran across in your life might tell a government official about "what they know about you."

Then imagine said official writes all of that, without comment, redaction, or correction into a report.

That's an FBI file.

20 posted on 06/29/2004 4:25:53 AM PDT by backhoe (Sleep tight, Ronnie... you reminded me of my Dad so much...)
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To: backhoe

Backhoe, do you have a link for this question?

If one hits a hornets nest w/ a baseball bat, one gets a predictable result.

The Arabs firmly believe our nation is ANTI Arab ... my question is this:

Why, given the Arabs history of going nuts against America relating to Israel, would the PRESIDENT of the USA, who had an endless supply of women of all backgrounds, choose a Jewish girl to have an affair with? Why? Talk about taking a media ball bat to Arab sensibilities. Talk about providing MOTIVATION!

The real question is this ... why is so little ever, ever written about the impact in the Arab world of one stupid chick and one stupid president named Monica and Bill ....

I bet a LOT has been written about it .... in Arabic.


21 posted on 06/29/2004 4:28:06 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: backhoe
The number of files varies wildly, though at the time the number I heard was around 500. Still, considering that the information usually contained in FBI files is raw data (could be anything: wildly unsubstantiated rumors, personal attacks, anything and everything anyone might say about you), having that information fall into the hands of your political enemies...er, opposition could be a problem.

So many ways to blackmail. Blackmail to change a vote, to look the other way, to vouch for the character of the Clintons before Congress...the list is long. But then so was the list of scandals, -gates, etc. the Clintons dumped on us.

Of course, the Clintons said it was all a mistake and that no one looked at the files. I believe they published a list of the names of the people whose files were taken. And, of course, no one of any consequence had their files taken. Yeah, right...

I am amazed by two things Clinton: that we, as a nation, survived him and his crime family and that he remains so wildly popular.

22 posted on 06/29/2004 4:31:29 AM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA
I am amazed by two things Clinton: that we, as a nation, survived him and his crime family and that he remains so wildly popular.

Me, too.

The highest "official count" of FBI files was the Wall Street Journal's 1,100. I have the article somewhere in my scrapbook, but no link handy.

The highest wild-assed guess I ever read about was 3,100 on some obscure website I visited.

And yes, since the files contain virtually anything anyone might say, guess, speculate, or even fantasize about a subject, without correction, they can be quite damaging.

I mean, say my neighbor tells an agent I molest goats, he records that, without comment or corroboration... how in Sam Hill do you counter something like that, in writing, on an official-looking "report?"

23 posted on 06/29/2004 4:38:19 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: mathluv
Didn't . . . Charles Colson . . . , one of the Watergate guys, get prison for ONE FBI file?
Sure did - that's what got him motivated to start a prison ministry. In a Republican administration, one felony count is a cause celebre; in a Democratic administration it's really no big deal by the time the next election comes around.

24 posted on 06/29/2004 4:39:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Facts? We're objective journalists - we don't NEED no stinkin' facts!")
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To: backhoe
You don't correct it...at least, not in the eyes of Joe and JoAnne Public once the news hits the newspapers.

Btw, yes or no, have you stopped molesting goats? ;)

25 posted on 06/29/2004 4:41:31 AM PDT by GBA
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I was Newted, I was stressed, I was Tripped,
I was Drudged, I was Starred, WOE unto me,
I'M BUSTED


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26 posted on 06/29/2004 4:42:50 AM PDT by Jackie
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To: GBA
Btw, yes or no, have you stopped molesting goats? ;)

Actually, it was that nice-looking sheep over there... and they say sheep can remember up to 10 friendly faces for two years...

27 posted on 06/29/2004 4:44:47 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: kattracks

28 posted on 06/29/2004 4:58:21 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Knees in the breeze)
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To: kattracks

How can Charles make the argument that impeached Clinton was successful, but resigned before being impeached Nixon was not? Nixon was also re-elected.


29 posted on 06/29/2004 5:11:35 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: martin_fierro
New York Times review

The book, which weighs in at more than 950 pages, is sloppy, self-indulgent and often eye-crossingly dull — the sound of one man prattling away, not for the reader, but for himself and some distant recording angel of history.

In many ways, the book is a mirror of Mr. Clinton's presidency: lack of discipline leading to squandered opportunities; high expectations, undermined by self-indulgence and scattered concentration. But the very lack of focus and order that mars these pages also prevented him from summoning his energies in a sustained manner to bring his insights about the growing terror threat and an Israeli-Palestinian settlement to fruition.

"My Life" has little of  classic's unsparing candor or historical perspective. Instead, it devolves into a hodgepodge of jottings: part policy primer, part 12-step confessional, part stump speech and part presidential archive, all, it seems, hurriedly written and even more hurriedly edited.


'Destroyed' Lewinsky Speaks Out on Clinton Memoir
Lewinsky in a statement released today, countered President Clinton's Book "My Life." I have had enough! This whole experience has left a bitter taste in my mouth and I can't stomach any more. I feel as if I am getting the shaft, that this ugly matter has come to a head and blown up in my face. This may be a load to handle, but when things are hard, that is when I am at my best. I have faced hard things in the past and I know what is coming. I will meet the challenge the only way I know how: head on. I have licked bigger things than this before, and I will again. No one will ever be able to say that Monica Lewinsky isn't a finisher, that she quit before the job was done. I will work non-stop and fight this blow by blow, until I am wiped clean of this dirty affair. I will not be stained by it. As for Bill Clinton, I hope he gets a stiff penalty. Thank you. - Lewinsky is seen in Washington in this July 28, 1998 file photo.

30 posted on 06/29/2004 5:12:41 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Happy2BMe
the lewinsky paragraph is priceless!

LOL funny

31 posted on 06/29/2004 6:17:21 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: kattracks

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"CHARLES the K" is the best Political Commentator on the entire FoX News Channel.

(Guests on 'Special Report with BRIT HUME' ..wheelchair & all)

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32 posted on 06/29/2004 6:27:49 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: jmeagan; IncPen; mplsconservative; sport; risk

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NEVER FORGET


...TWA Flight 800 went down the very night before CRAIG LIVINGSTONE was to appear on National TV to tell the U.S. Senate, Under Oath, that HILLARY was the one who hired him to get her FBI Files on Republicans in Congress or to Plead the 5th against self-incrimination instead.

...Starting that morning ..which Event did you see 24/7 TV Disaster Coverage of on your TV's and which Event got CANCELLED out of respect for those newly killed in a burning Jetliner Crash the night
before..?

...Thought so ...for the CLINTONS Lifetime M.O. has always been:


'It's the TV, Stupid, no matter WHO pays for it'


NEVER FORGET

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33 posted on 06/29/2004 6:40:37 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: backhoe

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.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629


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34 posted on 06/29/2004 6:46:13 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Republic

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RONNIE gave all = We have it all

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3466








RANDALL's 'MANSIONS' = RONNIE's D.C. Funeral Hymn..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3520

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35 posted on 06/29/2004 6:51:05 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: kattracks

The Best thing about the Clinton Presidency

Clinton has been busy hyping his new book "My Life." The best thing about the Clinton Presidency is that it will be forgotten by history, a mere footnote. If it weren’t for an eccentric billionaire he wouldn’t have had even that much. Absent Ross Perot’s help there is no chance that Clinton could have beaten President Bush (41) and it is questionable if he could have even beaten the inept candidacy of Senator Robert Dole.

Without any major accomplishments the only note worthy event will be impeachment. By his demonstrated lack of respect for the Truth, the Rule of Law and the Judicial Branch of our Government, Clinton may have inadvertently achieved a minor historical legacy. No wonder he claims in the recent 60 Minutes interview that he will always wear impeachment as a badge of honor.


36 posted on 06/29/2004 7:30:01 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: kattracks
History Will Not be Kind to Clinton

You can't run a presidency based on the evening news cycle and expect to get anything done. The Clinton presidency was so succinctly summed up by the Time magazine cover "The Incredible Shrinking Presidency". Once Clinton was gone, and unable to control the nightly news cycle, everyone was saying "Wow, there really wasn't much substance to that administration." The Clinton presidency will be remembered as a wasted 8 years in which Billary relished the power of being in control, and wasted the presidency by being drunk with power.

37 posted on 06/29/2004 8:09:06 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: kattracks; oldglory; MinuteGal; JulieRNR21; Luke FReeman; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather; Hannity; ...

"...His great failing was foreign policy." ~ Krauthammer

Brilliant deduction --- but in 1992, that's what Rush said it would be:

Rush Limbaugh 10/17/02:

"...When Bill Clinton ran in 1992 on the themes "putting people first" and "it's the economy stupid," hammering George H.W. Bush for spending too much time in foreign policy, I said:

'You wait. When the history of this guy is written, his reputation and legacy are going to be done in by foreign policy snafus and nightmares because he was openly disdainful of it.'

He's a masterful spinner, so he blames the current administration for all the problems he left us. But that doesn't change the fact that this is his legacy, or that we confronted the North Koreans with evidence that they'd built nukes and forced them to admit it.

The bottom line is, before Clinton came to office, Pakistan and India did not have nuclear weapons. Now they do. Before he came to office, Red China was unable to target American cities with nuclear warheads. Now they can. Before he came to office, North Korea did not have nuclear weapons. Now they do. And while he was in office, he did nothing to stop Iraq from its nuclear weapons development."

The above was excerpted from this item, copied in full below:

Clinton & Carter Entwined In Embrace of History
October 17, 2002
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/cold/oct_17_clinton___carter_entwined_.member.html

What we have in North Korea is another monumental Clinton administration screw-up dropped into George W. Bush's lap. We are only now beginning to see the real damage that the Clinton administration inflicted on this country and its position in the world. The examples run from September 11th to North Korea, from the Chinese being able to orbit ICMBs and put multiple warheads on each, all the way through to a newly nuclear India and Pakistan.
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[] Those of us who thought that Clinton's legacy would be corruption and sleaze were only half right. It's going to be far worse. All those treaties, bilateral agreements and Rose Garden ceremonies were the actions of an appeaser that have seriously damaged our national security. I think Clinton just didn't want to face problems. He didn't want to do anything to stop his supposedly roaring economy, so he presided over a "nothing" administration.

When Bill Clinton ran in 1992 on the themes "putting people first" and "it's the economy stupid," hammering George H.W. Bush for spending too much time in foreign policy, I said, "You wait. When the history of this guy is written, his reputation and legacy are going to be done in by foreign policy snafus and nightmares because he was openly disdainful of it." He's a masterful spinner, so he blames the current administration for all the problems he left us. But that doesn't change the fact that this is his legacy, or that we confronted the North Koreans with evidence that they'd built nukes and forced them to admit it.

The bottom line is, before Clinton came to office, Pakistan and India did not have nuclear weapons. Now they do. Before he came to office, Red China was unable to target American cities with nuclear warheads. Now they can. Before he came to office, North Korea did not have nuclear weapons. Now they do. And while he was in office, he did nothing to stop Iraq from its nuclear weapons development.
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At least When Hitler Invaded Poland, Neville Chamberlain Admitted His Mistake

Clinton simply followed in the footsteps of another foreign policy luminary, the Nobel Appease Prize-winning Jimmy Carter. Carter ran to North Korea almost without permission, and saved Clinton from having to make a decision. (See audio link below.) Have you ever noticed that the left loves anti-American dictators like North Korea's and Cuba's and the PLO's, but they can't take pro-American dictators like the Shah of Iran?

Some of this stuff is just laughable. February 5, 2002's New York Times recounted Bill Clinton speaking after dinner one night at the Waldorf-Astoria at the World Economic Forum. "On North Korea, I have a totally different take," he said. "I figure I left the next administration with a big foreign policy win." Oh really? Clinton also gave a September 2000 speech at Georgetown where he claimed that stopping the proliferation of WMDs was his "very top priority."

You can hear me read more fanciful claims from Clinton's speech in the audio link below – such as claiming he'd kept Saddam completely in check with the embargo. That embargo is Swiss cheese! Why, the U.S. State Department has even caught Saddam exporting food - and you people blame the sanctions and not the dictator for starving his people! These people take any excuse to look at evil and not see it. So when Jimmy Carter called and said that Kim Il Sung was a cool guy, Clinton jumped at the chance to pass more impotent UN resolutions or sign another meaningless piece of paper.

[Click on link to read more]


38 posted on 06/29/2004 8:10:22 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: nutmeg

read later


39 posted on 06/29/2004 8:11:27 AM PDT by nutmeg (Bush 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: nutmeg

read later


40 posted on 06/29/2004 8:11:32 AM PDT by nutmeg (Bush 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"CHARLES the K" is the best Political Commentator on the entire FoX News Channel.

Absolutely my most favorite. He so easily and succinctly blasts holes in the liberal panel members' arguments. He also often appears to be in quiet pain and has an obvious spinal problem (so the wheelchair?) What does he suffer from?

41 posted on 06/29/2004 11:12:12 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: kattracks
Clinton's legacy is to have given phone sex a bad name.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

42 posted on 06/29/2004 11:14:36 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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