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Berg calls US Iraqi handover a 'sham'
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Posted on 06/29/2004 7:44:52 AM PDT by Ironfocus

London - The father of a US civilian beheaded in Iraq dismissed as an illusion trick the handover of power to an Iraqi interim administration as he joined anti-war campaigners on a visit to London to Tuesday.

"This transfer of power is nothing more than another nut and shell game of the Bush and Blair coalition" Michael Berg, 59, said of Monday's surprise handover two days earlier than planned.

"We know that the Iraqi people have not had an election yet and so we do not have a democracy over there, we just have a dictatorship of Bush and Blair," he said at a press conference for the Stop The War Coalition, in London.

Berg's son, Nick, 26, who ran his own communications business, was murdered by Iraqi insurgents last month, after being kidnapped in Baghdad.

Three days after his headless body was discovered, a video tape of the execution was posted on a website linked to al-Qaeda, leading to worldwide condemnation.

Berg, wearing a T-shirt inscribed with the name of an anti-war website (VoteNoWar.org), will join British anti-war demonstrators outside the Houses of Parliament later on Tuesday to demand coalition troops come home.

"Bush told us we had to go to war because Iraq played a part in the destruction of the twin towers, because Saddam Hussein had WMD (weapons of mass destruction), because there were connections between him and al-Qaeda", he said.

All that was false, "it was just greed," he said.

The removal of Saddam's regime had not brought stability to Iraq and "11 000 plus Iraqi citizens have been killed," Berg said. "Each one of them is as affected as I was."


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KEYWORDS: handover; iraq; michaelberg
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1 posted on 06/29/2004 7:44:52 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Ironfocus

It's time for this guy to go away. Forever.


2 posted on 06/29/2004 7:46:32 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Ironfocus

This guys opinion rates long article. Why?


3 posted on 06/29/2004 7:47:00 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Bikers4Bush

As a father, Berg was a sham.


4 posted on 06/29/2004 7:47:21 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Ironfocus

Nobody believes anything this nut says. He's very sick.


5 posted on 06/29/2004 7:47:41 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!!)
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To: Ironfocus

When will Berg show up on CNN,NBC,ABC, CBS and Hardball as the new Iraq expert?

I give it a week or so.


6 posted on 06/29/2004 7:47:49 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

This guy is a traitor. He is actively attempting to cause us to lose in Iraq. He should be locked up.


7 posted on 06/29/2004 7:47:57 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Ironfocus

Berg who?


8 posted on 06/29/2004 7:48:02 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Ironfocus

Mr Berg would have opposed entering the war against the Axis in WW2 to shut down the ovens. A real whackjob.


9 posted on 06/29/2004 7:48:51 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Ironfocus

Berg should move to France, permanently.


10 posted on 06/29/2004 7:49:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (is a conservative.)
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To: Ironfocus

You would think that this man would be grieving over the loss of his son.


11 posted on 06/29/2004 7:49:45 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Paging Mr. Berg - Your fifteen minutes of fame are up...


12 posted on 06/29/2004 7:50:19 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: Ironfocus

He needs a little dose of STFU.


13 posted on 06/29/2004 7:50:41 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: The South Texan
When will Berg show up on CNN,NBC,ABC, CBS and Hardball as the new Iraq expert?

After he gets arrested for luring gradeschool girls over the internet for sex.

By then he will be qualified to be a WMD expert.

14 posted on 06/29/2004 7:51:08 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Ironfocus

Mr. Berg, thank you for sharing....now go away.


15 posted on 06/29/2004 7:51:11 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Ironfocus

He didn't mind the fact that his son was over there trying to profit off of the war...?


16 posted on 06/29/2004 7:51:16 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Ironfocus
Bush told us we had to go to war because Iraq played a part in the destruction of the twin towers

Bush NEVER said this. NEVER. You assumed it, jerkweed.

17 posted on 06/29/2004 7:51:29 AM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: Ironfocus

I really feel for this guy, his son was beheaded, and the whole world saw it...

but I really think its prozac time for him


18 posted on 06/29/2004 7:52:01 AM PDT by backinthefold (9/11 changed me, and I will never forget)
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To: Ironfocus
"We know that the Iraqi people have not had an election yet and so we do not have a democracy over there, we just have a dictatorship of Bush and Blair," he said at a press conference for the Stop The War Coalition, in London.

The UN Security Council sanctioned the new government, nutbar. Funny how you internationalists shriek about Bush not having UN blessings in Iraq but neglect to mention it once it actually happens. Could it be that you only want to bash Bush and America and could care less about what happens to the people of Iraq?

19 posted on 06/29/2004 7:52:11 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Ironfocus

Pull the string and out comes a slogan:

"This transfer of power is nothing more than another nut and shell game of the Bush and Blair coalition"

"We know that the Iraqi people have not had an election yet and so we do not have a democracy over there..."

"...we just have a dictatorship of Bush and Blair"

"it was just greed"

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And don't you just love the way the writer of the article dutifully reports the name of the anti-war website printed on Berg's shirt?


20 posted on 06/29/2004 7:52:18 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Ironfocus
"Bush told us we had to go to war because Iraq played a part in the destruction of the twin towers,

President Bush NEVER said that.

because Saddam Hussein had WMD (weapons of mass destruction),

He did. Bill Clinton said so. Algore said so. John Kerry said so. Ted Kennedy said so. France said so. Russia said so. The UN said so.

because there were connections between him and al-Qaeda", he said.

There were.

The removal of Saddam's regime had not brought stability to Iraq and "11 000 plus Iraqi citizens have been killed," Berg said.

Using Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International numbers, fewer people have died during and after the liberation of Iraq than would have died had Saddam remained in power during that same time frame.

Don't forget, the organizations wanted the sanctions lifted because they claimed that over ONE MILLION people had been killed by the sanctions. So, again, using THEIR NUMBERS, the liberation of Iraq, even with all of those killed has SAVED at least one hundred thousand lives.

21 posted on 06/29/2004 7:53:05 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: AngieGOP

He's using the death of his son to promote his sick agenda.


22 posted on 06/29/2004 7:53:29 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Ironfocus
We know that the Iraqi people have not had an election yet and so we do not have a democracy

What an idiot. The core to solidifying freedom and liberty is private property rights/ownership and freedom of press and religion, NOT simple elections.

Would Mr Berg think democracy were satisfied if all 25,000,000 Iraqis voted to kick his ass? I mean...THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SPOKEN!

23 posted on 06/29/2004 7:53:41 AM PDT by xrp
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To: Ironfocus

Just more of the same from the media. Good news must be turned into bad news by whatever means. This election year more than most the partisan media has really had to get down and dirty. No longer content to bias stories, they now resort to propaganda and outright lies, i.e. no link whatsoever between Saddam and Al Queda.


24 posted on 06/29/2004 7:54:18 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: backinthefold

I do not feel for this guy at all. The first couple days I cut him some slack. But his continued ranting and lunatic ravings have removed any sympathy or slack that he should be afforded.


25 posted on 06/29/2004 7:54:39 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: sheik yerbouty
As a father, Berg was a sham.

Ditto That.

26 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:12 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Ironfocus

This left-winger (and all others) will be saying the same thing when Iraqis elect their officials in Jan/05.


27 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:14 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: The South Texan

you got it! How credulous is it to expect stability and an ELECTED govt. immediately after the toppling of a 30 year dictator.

Suppose we DID bring the troops home now. Instant chaos and a lot more lives lost than have been lost.

There is still something very, very fishy about the Berg story. Could anyone really have been as naive as he(Berg jr.) appeared? I don't think so.

All this BS Berg and anti-war people are spouting is sooooo not so. It is self evident untruths.

vaudine


28 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:20 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Ironfocus

The truth is that with or without an Iraq war this guy would be spouting his nonsense. He hates Bush...clear and simple. Hating George Bush is what makes the left get up in the morning. They just can't accept that he won in 2000. That will be their undoing in November.

They have not been concentrating on WINNING in November. They've only been drooling over BEATING Bush. Wrong emphasis.


29 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:26 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: Ironfocus
What an agenda this character has...a disgrace to his son's memory.
He does indeed need to 'go away'.
30 posted on 06/29/2004 7:55:27 AM PDT by evad (What's BAD for democRATs is GOOD for America)
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To: Ironfocus
The father of a US civilian beheaded in Iraq dismissed as an illusion trick the handover of power to an Iraqi interim administration as he joined anti-war campaigners on a visit to London to Tuesday. "This transfer of power is nothing more than another nut and shell game of the Bush and Blair coalition" Michael Berg, 59, said of Monday's surprise handover two days earlier than planned.

MOST people would be so traumatized by the death of their son, that they wouldn't start appearing publically in a partisan effort to create wild-eyed conspiracies with the purpose of damaging a President.

MOST people.

31 posted on 06/29/2004 7:56:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Ironfocus

Michael Berg has bought the fancy of the leftist press and it only cost him his son's head. I wonder what he could get for his wife.


32 posted on 06/29/2004 7:56:20 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Ironfocus

Yeah, I've been waiting with baited breath to hear what this guy has to say.


33 posted on 06/29/2004 7:56:34 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Yardstick
"We know that the Iraqi people have not had an election yet and so we do not have a democracy over there..."

The scheduled election is for January 2005. Now, imagine if Bush had gotten the election scheudled for say, October 2004. Mr. Berg would be calling the election a sham, saying it was hastily set up and scheduled to provide electoral and political benefit for President Bush's relection chances in November.

And you can take that to the bank.

34 posted on 06/29/2004 7:56:35 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
After he gets arrested for luring gradeschool girls over the internet for sex.

Hey..
wonder what ever happen to that guy?

35 posted on 06/29/2004 7:57:02 AM PDT by evad (What's BAD for democRATs is GOOD for America)
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To: Ironfocus

As I watch the cards that are beig dealt to the political table I see Bush holding many trump cards. The remaining players are constantly showing their cards and playing them at will. Even Hillary's recent comments regarding "taking back" THEIR money are out for everyone to see.

Things are unfolding quite nicely.


36 posted on 06/29/2004 7:57:10 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Ironfocus

Yeah, 'cuz Berg is such an expert. Zheesh...


37 posted on 06/29/2004 7:57:12 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Ironfocus
Holy moonbats, Batman!

Why would anyone care what this left wing f#*ktard thinks?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

38 posted on 06/29/2004 7:57:33 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: GOP_Proud

You would think that the freedom of Iraqis to make their own way would be a non-partisan issue. But not to lib/dems....it's all about politics and hating Bush.


39 posted on 06/29/2004 7:57:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: xrp

The Soviet Union had elections, but it sure wasn't a democracy Mr. Berg.


40 posted on 06/29/2004 7:58:09 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Ironfocus

I cannot understand how these people can forget what Saddam Hussein was when he was in power under Bill Clintons' administration. He was a bad guy THEN and everybody agreed THEN that Bush '41 made a MISTAKE by not getting him out of power.
What is their stinking problem? Can people really be THAT dumb?!?!


41 posted on 06/29/2004 7:58:15 AM PDT by JustPlainJoe
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To: AngieGOP
You would think that this man would be grieving over the loss of his son.

What and give up his 15 minutes of FAME?

42 posted on 06/29/2004 7:59:34 AM PDT by crusty codger (Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
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To: Ironfocus

Yes, this must REALLY piss off the liberal left.


43 posted on 06/29/2004 7:59:54 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Phantom Lord
"Don't forget, the organizations wanted the sanctions lifted because they claimed that over ONE MILLION people had been killed by the sanctions. So, again, using THEIR NUMBERS, the liberation of Iraq, even with all of those killed has SAVED at least one hundred thousand lives."

I've made this point myself, and it needs to be repeated: before the war, the left was saying that sanctions were killing 5,000 Iraqis a month. Now, either they were lying, or the war has already - using their own figures - saved at least 50,000 lives.
44 posted on 06/29/2004 8:00:09 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Ironfocus

We all gave this guy a pass when he found out his son had been murdered by terrorists.

That pass has expired.


45 posted on 06/29/2004 8:00:44 AM PDT by Bean Counter
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To: Kenton
Paging Mr. Berg - Your fifteen minutes of fame are up

Okay, if we are going to launch wild-eyed conspiracy theories, let me launch one of my own:

Michael Berg is so anti-Iraq war that he actively worked with insurgent terrorists to set his son up. Then when his son was seized and beheaded, he had more limelight to express his anti-American Ûber-Liberal views.

Disclaimer: This is a wild-eyed conspiracy theory intended to demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.

46 posted on 06/29/2004 8:00:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: gathersnomoss

Bush is in a high stakes game of Texas Hold Em. He has been dealt Big Slick (Ace, King). Not a sure winner, but a big advantage hand. Bush flopped a straight draw, but the Turn and River can do him in.


47 posted on 06/29/2004 8:01:20 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Ironfocus

There was a time in America when decorum and loyalty to ones country and loved ones did not take a bath on the front page of media all over the world. In memory of his son, Michael Berg is being used by the enemy to give aid and comfort to those who would see Saddam back on his throne – and a whole nation, Iraq still under the oppression of the father of beheadings. Mr. Berg is wrong on all counts but then he is just parroting what he is told to say and that is the pity of it all. He is shaming his son, not honoring the man.


48 posted on 06/29/2004 8:01:50 AM PDT by yoe (Organized crime and the name Clinton are synonymous........)
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To: Ironfocus
The removal of Saddam's regime had not brought stability to Iraq and "11 000 plus Iraqi citizens have been killed," Berg said. "Each one of them is as affected as I was."

What a telling comment. The egotist equates his situation with that of the dead. The dead Iraqis are as affected as your SON, Mr. Berg. Only an arrogant blowhard would put his own pain on the same level of the people who actually did suffer physical pain and death.

49 posted on 06/29/2004 8:02:43 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: crusty codger

"What and give up his 15 minutes of FAME?"

I wonder how much is he getting paid and by whom?


50 posted on 06/29/2004 8:03:11 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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