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A Pharmacist's View on Gay Marriage
Agape Press ^ | 29 Jun 04 | J.R. Schoenle, Pharm.D.

Posted on 06/29/2004 5:07:44 PM PDT by xzins

Guest Commentary
A Pharmacist's View on Gay Marriage

By J.R. Schoenle, Pharm.D.
June 29, 2004

(AgapePress) - Having worked with AIDS patients and investigational drug studies for HIV at Johns Hopkins Hospital, I feel a lot of compassion for homosexual persons. But as a professional health care provider, I am compelled to educate people with medical facts regarding same-sex marriage.

This is not a "privacy" issue. Gay activists have brought the gay lifestyle into the public square with their demands for "marriage" or "civil union." (The public has not gone into anyone's bedroom; rather, they have brought their bedroom issues out in public.) "Gay marriage" or "civil unions" will give legal protection and government benefits to the gay lifestyle. YOU, the taxpayer, will be paying those government benefits out of YOUR pocket, so you deserve to have an opinion on the subject and you deserve to be informed about facts relating to these same-sex unions.

If marriage between man and woman has been with humanity since the beginning of time and has been the cornerstone of every culture and religion, then why is there this "new idea" of what marriage can mean? The idea of "gay marriage" or "civil union" would have been ridiculous 3,000 years ago, 1,000 years ago, 500 years ago, 50 years ago, even 10 years ago. What has changed?

The cultural "perception" of homosexuality and the gay lifestyle has changed. Two common myths have been instrumental in this change: (1) 10 percent of the population is homosexual, and (2) people are born with their homosexual orientation.

Although the secular media, Hollywood celebrities, and groups such as PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians & Gays) still might make these claims, the medical community has rejected them. Research has shown that the incidence of a homosexual orientation is closer to 2 to 3 percent of the population. More importantly, several research projects failed to find the "gay gene." [1] As a matter of fact, had they discovered the gay gene, then gay marriage would become a civil right, since it would be scientifically proved that a person has this orientation as an "inborn" trait, something that cannot be changed. [2] The gay gene would be the most important piece of scientific evidence to convince you, the taxpayer, to pay government benefits for the gay lifestyle. Had they found the gay gene, you would have read about it in newspapers and magazines and seen it on TV; you would probably still be seeing it every single day. There would be a "test" for the gay gene, just as there are tests for other genetic traits.

So if there is no gay gene, then what causes a homosexual orientation? Most scientists agree that a combination of factors influence it. [3] Interestingly, many people have changed from a homosexual orientation to a heterosexual orientation with and without therapy. [4] No matter what our orientation, we do choose our lifestyle (which is tremendously influenced by what is permissible and encouraged in our culture.) With all of this research, why is there so much confusion?

Prior to 1973, "homosexual orientation" was listed as a diagnosable mental disorder in the DSM-III-R, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association. In 1973, psychiatrists who were members of The American Psychiatric Association took a poll and voted on whether or not to remove "homosexual orientation" from this book of diagnoses. The vote was taken, and by a very slim margin, the vote sided on removing this diagnosis. There was no new information regarding the orientation (i.e., there hadn't been any research to warrant the justification of this action); they simply took a vote. This event initiated the cultural perception that homosexual orientation and behavior is a natural phenomenon and therefore should not be "treated" but should be accepted and even encouraged -- e.g., "out of the closet."

But should the gay lifestyle be encouraged? Health care professionals are familiar with the medical challenges of homosexual men living the gay lifestyle. For you, the taxpayer, to be willing to pay government benefits for gay marriage or civil unions, you should consider what lifestyle your tax dollars will be supporting.

Remember, homosexual activity began "coming out of the closet" in 1973. Just eight short years later, in 1981, we have the first reported cases of an "unknown" disease killing gay men. AIDS has arrived. Why do so many diseases target gay men? The body is not built for sodomy. "The anus opens into the rectum which is not as well suited for penile penetration as the female vagina is. Both the anus and rectum have rich blood supplies, and their walls, thinner than the walls of the vagina, are easily damaged. When penetration occurs, it's easier to tear blood vessels, which in turn increases the risk of acquiring or receiving an infection as penile skin and/or semen comes in contact with the partner's blood or semen." [5]

Another risk is caused by bacteria and other organisms present in feces; Entamoeba and Giardia can cause chronic diarrhea. Many will suffer from "gay bowel syndrome." Anal intercourse is "high risk behavior" because so many diseases can be spread from this misuse of the body, including HIV, Hepatitis A, B, and C, and a wide range of other sexually transmitted diseases.

What About Condoms and 'Safe Sex'?
Here is what we know about latex condoms from the latest research. [6,7,8,9,10]

For males who use a condom 100 percent correctly, studies have shown that latex condoms have a:

  1. 13 percent failure rate against HIV (once HIV converts to an AIDS disease, it is deadly). (Would you advise your teenager to drive a car that might kill him or her 13 percent of the time?)
  2. 50 percent failure rate against gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydeous.
  3. 100 percent failure rate against genital herpes and human papillomavirus (HPV), which causes cervical cancer in women. (These grim statistics are from studies where males used condoms 100 percent correctly. Does that happen in real life?)

For 20 years, condoms have been distributed extensively; now the study results on latex condom effectiveness and the CDC statistics on sexually transmitted diseases reflect how relatively ineffective they are. The NIH, CDC, and medical professionals still promote the use of latex condoms as "safer sex," especially for HIV prevention. Unfortunately, most people simply don't know the real risks that are involved when they rely on a condom.

Disease spread in gay/bisexual men is especially problematic because this lifestyle almost always includes multiple sexual partners. More partners means more disease. (Remember, condoms offer little or no protection against the spread of many diseases.) In addition, homosexual men living the gay lifestyle have a higher rate of depression, pornography use, alcoholism, drug abuse and suicide. [11,12] We all need to be compassionate toward those men trapped in this unhealthy lifestyle. But legitimizing homosexual marriage or civil unions will undoubtedly encourage experimentation in this lifestyle. From a medical and ethical perspective, this will have tragic consequences for individuals as well as society.

What About AIDS?
From 1981 through 1999, there were 751,965 cumulative reported cases of AIDS in the U.S. At least 56 percent of the AIDS diagnoses occurred in gay or bisexual men. In other words, two percent of the population had at least 56 percent of those reported AIDS diagnoses. The second largest group was IV drug users. What about heterosexual sex? In the U.S., persons who have been infected with HIV through heterosexual contact have usually had vaginal or anal intercourse with someone in one of the high-risk categories -- a bisexual male or someone who is an IV drug user. [13]

In the past 17 years, medications to combat HIV have been developed, which has decreased the numbers of persons with HIV progressing to an AIDS disease. A person diagnosed with HIV will be put on a complicated drug regimen (three or four drugs). The patient will be on these drugs, which have very unpleasant side effects, for life. However, one catastrophic problem combating HIV is that a person who is HIV-positive and receiving medication is still able to infect other people. The number of people in the U.S. that are HIV-positive has continued to grow. There are approximately 42,000 Americans infected with HIV each year (74 percent men, 26 percent women). The CDC estimates that 25 percent of persons who are HIV-positive are unaware they are infected, and 50 percent of all new diagnoses occur in persons younger than 25 years. Persons who have other sexually transmitted diseases (with sores) have a two-to-three times greater risk for becoming infected with HIV. It is now estimated that there are between 900,000 and 1,000,000 persons in the U.S. who are HIV-positive (included in that estimate are 400,000 to 450,000 gay/bisexual men). The medical community anticipates that there will soon be a large increase in AIDS; in the first three months of this year, there have already been 8,910 new cases diagnosed.

In addition to the physical, psychological, and emotional devastation of HIV/AIDS is the high cost of treatment. The wholesale cost for the combination drug therapies treating HIV is about $14,000 annually per patient. (Medication costs can be much higher depending on the drugs included in the regimen.) A study completed in 2002 estimated that costs treating patients who had progressed to an AIDS disease were around $34,000 annually per patient. [14] Variations in this approximation include medications, hospitalization, diagnostic costs and clinic costs. The health care costs of AIDS diseases and drugs for treating HIV have impacted your health insurance premiums tremendously. The direct costs of HIV/AIDS are similar to other very serious illnesses; however, the indirect costs are higher since HIV affects predominantly working-age persons. [15]

In recent years, the media has influenced public opinion about the gay lifestyle with emotion, but not with facts. When was the last time you read about the negative consequences of the gay lifestyle, including current epidemiological information about HIV or AIDS in the U.S.? Homosexual women do have different issues from homosexual men. This letter limits the discussion to men because the obvious public health threat from the lifestyle of gay men provides legitimate reasons for taxpayers to form an educated opinion against gay marriage and civil unions.

Some states allow gay couples to adopt children even though there are many studies which confirm that children do not "thrive" as well in households parented by a single gender. Government programs such as Big Brothers Big Sisters were developed because we know that children need gender identification. Today some people claim that the children of gay couples do just as well as the children being raised by a father/mother. Sociologists Stacey and Biblarz reviewed the research studies currently available on same-sex couples raising children. Their review article in the American Sociological Review 2001 found that children of lesbian couples were "more likely to engage in homosexual behavior and less likely to conform to traditional gender norms." An additional significant finding was that daughters of lesbian couples were "more sexually adventurous and less chaste." The review also determined that lesbian "co-parenting relationships" have a higher incidence of breaking up than heterosexual ones. (We know that family structure has profound effects on children. For years people proclaimed that children weren't hurt by divorce, and now a multitude of studies, books, and testimonials prove that hypothesis was false.)

What can we learn from countries where gay marriage is legal? On May 3, 2004, a study was released from Sweden, which compared married gay couples to married heterosexual couples. Results showed that gay male couples were 50 percent more likely to divorce and lesbian couples were 167 percent more likely to divorce than heterosexual couples

On May 27, 2004, Australian Prime Minister John Howard announced plans for Australia to ban gay marriage and to prohibit gay couples from adopting children from foreign countries. Based on the scientific data available from the past 30 years, this logical and practical decision is confirmed by human nature, natural law and common sense.

This is not a "privacy" issue. Without prompt action, YOU, the American taxpayer, will be paying for government benefits for gay marriage or civil unions out of YOUR pocket. Exercise your voice on this issue facing our country right now. Gay activists have used emotion and intimidation to distract us from the facts, and they are depending on taxpayer ignorance or apathy toward this situation to accomplish their goal. We will all live with the consequences of what happens with this issue.

Speak now ... or forever hold your peace! Support the Federal Marriage Amendment. Contact your state senators who will be debating and voting on this issue during the week of July 12. You can sign a petition and send an e-mail to your senators via the website NoGayMarriage.com.

References

[1] McGuire, T. (1995) Is homosexuality genetic? A critical review and some suggestions. Journal of Homosexuality. 28,1/2:115-145

[2] Green, R. (1988) The immutability of (homo) sexual orientation: Behavioral science implications for a constitutional analysis. Journal of Psychiatry and Law. 16,4:537-575

[3] Bradley, S., Zucker, K. (1997) Gender identity disorder: A review of the past 10 Years. Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. 34,7:872-880

[4] Throckmorton, W. (1996) Efforts to modify sexual orientation: A review of outcome literature and ethical issues. Journal of Mental Health and Counseling. 20, 4:283-305

[5] Meeker, Meg M.D. Epidemic: How Teen Sex is Killing Our Kids. Washington, DC. Lifeline Press, 2002. p. 152

[6] Ibid pp.106-110

[7] National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institute of Health, Department of Health and Human Services. Workshop Summary: Scientific Evidence on Condom Effectiveness for Sexually Transmitted Disease Prevention, July 20, 2001

[8] Citing "Failed Efforts" to Inform Public of Condom "Ineffectiveness," Physician Groups, Politicians Ask CDC Head to Resign. July 25, 2001. Daily HIV/AIDS Report, The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation (Kaisernetwork.org). Internet on-line. http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?hint=1&DR_ID=5980

[9] Federal Panel on Condoms Offers Crucial Warnings to Sexually Active Americans, Says The Medical Institute for Sexual Health. NIH Condom Report Press Release. Media Advisories, Austin, Texas: The Medical Institute for Sexual Health, July 19, 2001

[10] A. Wald, A.G.M. Langenberg, K. Link, et. al., Effect of Condoms on Reducing the Transmission of Herpes Simplex Virus Type 2 from Men to Women. Journal of the American Medical Association 285 (2001):3100-3106

[11] Mulry, G., Kalichman, S.,Kelly,J. (1994) Substance use and unsafe sex among gay men: Global versus situational use of substances. Journal of Sex Educators and Therapy. 20,3:175-184

[12] Fergusson, D., Horwood, L., Beautrais, A. (1999) Is sexual orientation related to mental health problems and suicidality in young people? Archives of General Psychiatry. 56, 10:876-888

[13] Goldberg, Bernard. BIAS: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News. Washington, DC. Regnery Publishing, Inc., 2002 Chapter 6: (AIDS) Epidemic of Fear.

[14] XIV International AIDS Conference;UAB's Unique Research Contributions. Internet on-line http://www.health.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=53217

[15] Glied, Sherry. "Economics, from the Encyclopedia of Aids." Internet on-line. http://www.thebody.com/encyclo/economics.html

Scripture texts supporting marriage or warning against homosexual behavior:
Genesis 1:27-28, Genesis 19:1-29, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Genesis 2:21-24, Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:27, 1 Timothy 1:9-10



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; civil; drug; gay; gaydisease; grid; hiv; homosexual; homosexualagenda; marriage; prisoners; romans1; therapy; union; wagesofsin
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1 posted on 06/29/2004 5:07:44 PM PDT by xzins
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; scripter; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; SpookBrat; Alamo-Girl; ...

Excellent article for your files


2 posted on 06/29/2004 5:09:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

I am PharmD also and basically feel the same way as this person. If we really care about people wouldn't we in our compassion try to prevent them from becoming involved in a dangerous lifestyle


3 posted on 06/29/2004 5:13:20 PM PDT by mel
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To: mel

Whole-hearted agreement with you.

When we see a child walking into traffic, the ones who care try to stop the child from doing what's dangerous.

Can you imagine neighbors who would egg the child on????


4 posted on 06/29/2004 5:16:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

If one of the problems with gays is promiscuity--as the author says--wouldn't marriage and monomgamy be preferable?


5 posted on 06/29/2004 5:19:04 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: xzins

You'll never see this in the mainstream media. If you try to spread this around the workplace, you'll likely be fired.


6 posted on 06/29/2004 5:22:36 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Shop smart. Shop S-Mart...)
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To: xzins

Thank you for this excellent article. I'll update the database immediately.


7 posted on 06/29/2004 5:29:01 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I just spread it around so we'll see what happens. :>)


8 posted on 06/29/2004 5:29:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: scripter

Thanks, script. How's things?

Love the footnoting on this article.


9 posted on 06/29/2004 5:31:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: the Real fifi

Except they (homosexual men) have higher numbers of partners , even when they consider themselves "committed" to a relationship. The only thing they are really committed to is their self-destructive behavior.


10 posted on 06/29/2004 5:33:09 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Tahoe3002

Yep. And is there not the problem that by allowing marriage, you've also legitmized the practice, making it more acceptable.


11 posted on 06/29/2004 5:37:41 PM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: xzins

The best prescription pharmacists should be filling is Trinoassatall.


12 posted on 06/29/2004 5:38:05 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: the Real fifi
...wouldn't marriage and monomgamy be preferable?

Since when do marriage and monogamy go hand in hand? Obviously, they should, but a piece of paper signed by some damn clerk isn't going to stop someone from cheating on their spouse.

FWIW, there is far too little monogamy in traditional, heterosexual marriages. Why would gays fare any better?

13 posted on 06/29/2004 5:40:28 PM PDT by grellis ("I was just wondering, do you filthy Freepers know how well-known and notorious you are?")
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To: the Real fifi

<< If one of the problems with gays is promiscuity--as the author says--wouldn't marriage and monomgamy be preferable? >>

Unquestionably marriage would be better. But then, no one is stopping them from marrying.

Also, if they married and were monogamous, they wouldn't be homosexual anymore.

Dan


14 posted on 06/29/2004 5:40:41 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Solamente

I'll bite, what is it?


15 posted on 06/29/2004 5:41:57 PM PDT by grellis (All the iron turns to rust, all the proud men turn to dust)
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To: Solamente

LOL!!!

I get it!!!


16 posted on 06/29/2004 5:43:06 PM PDT by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: xzins

bump


17 posted on 06/29/2004 5:44:42 PM PDT by VOA
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To: the Real fifi
Some homosexuals have stated they want to redefine the word marriage so it no longer implies monogamy. They're on record as stating they want to completely redefine marriage.

You may find this article of interest:

Dutch Decline: Losing interest in matrimony. Here's an excerpt: Since the start of the Dutch gay-marriage debate — in which gay-marriage activists successfully made the case for separating civil marriage from the legal rights and duties involved with the raising of children — the percentage of Dutch babies born out of wedlock has skyrocketed. As Stanley Kurtz has also pointed out (here and here), in the 15 years since the beginning of the long march toward gay marriage, the illegitimacy rate in the Netherlands has risen from 11 percent (1989) to over 31 percent (2003).
You may find this article of interest:
Same-Sex 'Marriage' Goes to School. Here's an excerpt:

Imagine finding out that your kindergartner's teacher read the story Heather Has Two Mommies or Daddy's New Roommate before nap time. Having two daddies or two mommies is just the same as having one of each, she explains.

Or perhaps you'll learn over the dinner table that a special speaker visited your middle-schooler's health class. The speaker instructed your pre-teen about homosexual sex—in graphic detail. Then the speaker asked for volunteers to role-play. One student was to act the part of "a young lesbian who's really enraptured with another woman" and who's "thinking about having sex."

And the last one for now:
What's Wrong With Letting Same-Sex Couples "Marry?"

18 posted on 06/29/2004 5:44:54 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: xzins

bump


19 posted on 06/29/2004 5:47:22 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I stood up and fought against Ronald Reagan's illegal war in Central America." -John Kerry)
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To: xzins
I'm too busy but I try to put a few comments in here and there.

I've been thinking about writing something along the same lines and I'm glad to see more qualified folks taking a stand and telling the truth.

20 posted on 06/29/2004 5:47:35 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: xzins

What does pharmacy have to do with anal sex? For that matter, what does marriage have to do with anal sex? I mean after all, isn't that all what gay marriage is about, recognition of the right to smear.... never mind


21 posted on 06/29/2004 5:49:05 PM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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To: xzins

BTTT


22 posted on 06/29/2004 5:50:09 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: xzins

This guy makes too much common sense.


23 posted on 06/29/2004 5:50:35 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: xzins

sad bump


24 posted on 06/29/2004 5:51:01 PM PDT by prognostigaator
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Hmmm... what would be the liberal position if the "gay gene" were identified and hetrosexual couples began aborting children that carried that gene? I bet they'd finally find a case where abortion wasn't a "woman's right".


25 posted on 06/29/2004 5:58:48 PM PDT by sc2_ct
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To: xzins
What bothers me is Christians refering to 'same sex marriage'. There can never be marriage between the same sex... only "same sex deviate acts of sin."
26 posted on 06/29/2004 5:59:08 PM PDT by Luke (u)
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To: the Real fifi
If one of the problems with gays is promiscuity--as the author says--wouldn't marriage and monomgamy be preferable?

Why on earth would you think a piece of paper would make a promiscuous homosexual monogamous?

It doesn't work for heteros either ... they just don't have to pay as high a price for their promiscuity.

27 posted on 06/29/2004 6:02:44 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: xzins
When we see a child walking into traffic, the ones who care try to stop the child from doing what's dangerous.

Can you imagine neighbors who would egg the child on????




That is an excellent analogy xzins.

May I add that not only do they "egg on the child" they exalt the child for doing what is dangerous calling those that disagree hate mongers etc..
28 posted on 06/29/2004 6:04:40 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: xzins
Fine article!

Anyone know if the 13% number the author cites for he failure rate of condoms against HIV means per year or per use?

29 posted on 06/29/2004 6:07:41 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: xzins
Thanks very much for this (extremely powerful) gem of the factual truth on the gay agenda and it's horrific impact on our society.

Are you aware such public speaking is against the law in Canada and is labeled a 'HATE CRIME?'

30 posted on 06/29/2004 6:23:48 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: the Real fifi
Evidence indicates that "monogamy" does not have the same meaning in gay relationships, with both "life partners" sharing multiple partners outside the relationship, and with the central relationship averaging something like 4 years.

Marriage has never guaranteed monogamy.
31 posted on 06/29/2004 6:24:03 PM PDT by sharktrager (Help Laura beat Tuh-Ray-Za http://scoreboards.hotornot.com/2004electionwives)
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To: sharktrager; the Real fifi

"Marriage has never guaranteed monogamy."

Exactly.
If a person is determined to screw around, they will do so regardless of marital status or how anyone will be hurt by it.
Such people, hetero or otherwise, do not care about consequences, they only care about their feelings and desires in the immediate moment.
Marital status only adds a layer of complication for them, something or someone to have to lie about or to.
Another thread of deciet in their unending web of lies.
'trager has it right, as do others stating the same thing.


32 posted on 06/29/2004 6:28:11 PM PDT by Darksheare (I boil trolls in their skins and devour their souls because I'm COMPASSIONATE!)
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To: the Real fifi

Best to try to stop those who are engaging in a deadly behavior.

I would target the basic behavior that is deadly. It sounds like you would attempt to allow that behavior but to control it.

That was also the argument with condoms....it has proven ineffective.


33 posted on 06/29/2004 6:28:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

Thank you. I also agree with the author. Furthermore, marriage is the union between a man and a woman for the purpose of procreation. Homosexual relationships do not fit the bill and to rearrange our society to suit those who claim they are homosexual is to further undermine our judeo/christian heritage. That is what the proponents of gay marriage want. Destruction of our organized society.


34 posted on 06/29/2004 6:31:31 PM PDT by MistyCA (For some...it's always going to be "A Nam Thing!")
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To: megatherium
Anyone know if the 13% number the author cites for he failure rate of condoms against HIV means per year or per use?

Well, the 100% failure rates cited for other diseases wouldn't make sense on a per-use basis; on the other hand, per-year failure statistics aren't very meaningful without information about assumed frequency of contact.

35 posted on 06/29/2004 6:43:03 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat; megatherium

I'm guessing the answers to the condom questions lie in these particular footnoted sources:

[7] National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institute of Health, Department of Health and Human Services. Workshop Summary: Scientific Evidence on Condom Effectiveness for Sexually Transmitted Disease Prevention, July 20, 2001

[8] Citing "Failed Efforts" to Inform Public of Condom "Ineffectiveness," Physician Groups, Politicians Ask CDC Head to Resign. July 25, 2001. Daily HIV/AIDS Report, The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation (Kaisernetwork.org). Internet on-line. http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cfm?hint=1&DR_ID=5980

[9] Federal Panel on Condoms Offers Crucial Warnings to Sexually Active Americans, Says The Medical Institute for Sexual Health. NIH Condom Report Press Release. Media Advisories, Austin, Texas: The Medical Institute for Sexual Health, July 19, 2001

[10] A. Wald, A.G.M. Langenberg, K. Link, et. al., Effect of Condoms on Reducing the Transmission of Herpes Simplex Virus Type 2 from Men to Women. Journal of the American Medical Association 285 (2001):3100-3106


36 posted on 06/29/2004 6:48:35 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

He's got guts!


37 posted on 06/29/2004 6:49:35 PM PDT by diamond6
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To: xzins

You can't stop it. It is ingrained. And I would contend that the best way to limit promiscuous sexual behavior is to allow permanent unions of homosexuals. I fail to see how this in a any way affects heterosexual marriage, but denying this right does seem to encourage the very behavior you claim to worry about.


38 posted on 06/29/2004 6:56:23 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: xzins

Thank you.


39 posted on 06/29/2004 7:08:51 PM PDT by djreece
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To: the Real fifi

wouldn't marriage and monomgamy be preferable?

When did marriage begin leading to monogamy?


40 posted on 06/29/2004 7:17:41 PM PDT by Damagro
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To: xzins

Bump!


41 posted on 06/29/2004 7:23:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sister_T

I actually googled it and got no responses...


42 posted on 06/29/2004 7:30:51 PM PDT by bitt ("I am sick and tired of it and I am not going to take it anymore.")
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To: xzins
"Just eight short years later, in 1981, we have the first reported cases of an "unknown" disease killing gay men."

I've always wondered if this "unknown disease" wasn't really known much earlier.

In 1968 a nurse friend of mine told me about a young male patient she had who was dying of a rare form of pneumonia. She (the nurse) told me that homosexuals seemed to get diseases that "normal" people hardly ever get.

Wasn't AIDS known before 1981 and wasn't it known as GRID (gay-related immune deficiency) before it was called "AIDS?"

43 posted on 06/29/2004 7:38:53 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: xzins
Another risk is caused by bacteria and other organisms present in feces;

Whether or not you believe in a planned creation and a Creator, there are sound survival reasons that humans are inherently repelled by the odor of human feces.

Homosexual behavior (sodomy) defies every form of scientific, natural, and moral sense. Call it what is: perversion.

44 posted on 06/29/2004 7:40:07 PM PDT by TXnMA (ROE: Any masked male civilian in Iraq is a legitimate sniper target.)
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To: the Real fifi
And I would contend that the best way to limit promiscuous sexual behavior is to allow permanent unions of homosexuals.

I don't understand. Has someone outlawed "permanent unions of homosexuals"? Who is stopping them?

And I would contend that the best way to limit promiscuous sexual behavior amongst homosexuals is to encourage them to leave that lifestyle. Promiscuity is part and parcel of the lifestyle.

45 posted on 06/29/2004 7:40:40 PM PDT by DameAutour (It's not Bush, it's the Congress.)
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To: xzins

bump for later read.


46 posted on 06/29/2004 7:44:22 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - xzins says it's good, it's good. Facts, truth, evidence, and the like.

Medical evidence says that same sex sodomy isn't healthy for people and other living things.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


47 posted on 06/29/2004 8:06:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://www.mikegabbard.com - a REAL conservative running for Congress!)
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To: grellis; BibChr; the Real fifi

This is what Andrew Sullivan has to say about homosexual marriage and monogamy:

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman." He notes: "The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness." (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)


48 posted on 06/29/2004 8:10:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://www.mikegabbard.com - a REAL conservative running for Congress!)
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To: xzins

bump bump bump

ALL: call your senator and urge support of the FMA


49 posted on 06/29/2004 8:13:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: xzins
"With all of this research, why is there so much confusion?"

As do their close associates in feminism, homosexual activists will repeat the lies until the masses believe them anyway. Repetition and duplication are two of the most effective tactics in propaganda work.
50 posted on 06/29/2004 8:42:23 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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