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Bill Buckley, you and I know the war was a mistake
The Hill ^ | June 28, 04 | Josh Marshall

Posted on 06/29/2004 7:00:20 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: the FLY

That position is not ridiculous. In fact, it sounds like the position of someone who thinks he was conned into believing something that he always suspected wasn't true.


41 posted on 06/29/2004 7:19:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Torie

LOL.


42 posted on 06/29/2004 7:19:52 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: churchillbuff

The jury is still out on this one.

Meanwhile, there have been no new terrorist attacks on the US mainland.

In my eyes, that alone justifies Bush's war on terrorism as it unfolds in Iraq.


43 posted on 06/29/2004 7:20:34 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: churchillbuff
"...in declining states the leadership intuitively choses the most harmful course of action." A great historian 1888

Invade Iraq(see the article); allow a massive invasion of third worlders who are now aggressively moving to take control; destroy our manufacturing, and they are now busy working on the destruction of our transportation industry;discriminate against their own people in work and in admissions to school; support those who attack the display of Christian symbols-said symbols being displayed for centuries;spend the country ever closer to bankruptcy; supporting the homosexuals while paying lip service to a marriage amendment. It goes on and on. Yet, where do we go Kerry is worse, by about one tenth of one per cent!

44 posted on 06/29/2004 7:20:39 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: churchillbuff

I don't care who you add. You and your crew are wrong. Speaking of crews, Buckley is obviously over the bar - he's given up sailing, so you can't put any stock in anything he says. He's beyond hope.

sign me - Dark Harbor 17 owner


45 posted on 06/29/2004 7:20:50 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: the FLY

Well, in 20 years, we can get out the Ouija Board, and maybe find out that his position has yet again changed.


46 posted on 06/29/2004 7:20:58 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
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To: patriciaruth
Iraq was involved in funding and training al-Quaeda for 9/11, and Iraq harbored terrorists and Iraq was going to continue making attacks on U.S. and help channel WMD to groups with intent to use them against us.

Yeah, and out of 9/11 bombers almost all were Iraqis.

47 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:08 PM PDT by A. Pole ("When they start beheading your own people[...], then you will know what this is all about." - Slobo)
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To: COEXERJ145
Every post I've ever seen you make is bash Bush, "Bush bad", "Bush sucks", "Bush will lose", "We need to warm up to President Kerry", etc, etc, etc.

Well then you haven't been reading my posts since 1998. I'm more conservative - - on govt spending, taxes, pro-life, anti-Clinton, anti-Hillary, envirocrazies -- than many, many freepers. Yes, I disagree with Bush on his bonehead invasion of Iraq, but I have to vote for him, because of all those other issues (Even though he's spending too much). And Kerry? He's for the war - - he agrees with you -- so please don't say that because I opposed the invasion, I'm pro-Kerry. Show more intelligence than that.

48 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:18 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

I can't believe WFB dosen't see the BIG PICTURE.

Iraq, besides defaulting on inspections and the No-Fly-Zone for 10-odd years, is strategically located to Syria and Iran!


49 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:23 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: churchillbuff

I like Bill Buckley, but from time to time he's just plain wrong.


50 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Texasforever

You have to love these so called "true conservatives" (yeah, just like seminar callers on Rush and Hannity) that are so self rightous and think that there is no chance they could be wrong and anyone who holds a different view is to be slammed as "neocon", fascist, or worse.


51 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:23 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: churchillbuff
It strikes me that in the "War vs. Terrorists" (World Wide), Iraq has proven an effective place to put an army, as is Afghanistan. Far be it from me to object to the ruminations of William Buckley, but when you have terrorists pouring into Iraq from all over it helps to make Iraq a target rich environment, and non-Iraq places that much safer. Plenty of terrorists have been neutralized in Iraq.

I think it also didn't hurt to make an example of Hussein.

52 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:34 PM PDT by stevem
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To: woodyinscc
I've known Bill since I was a teen.This is soooooooooooo unlike him,that I'm really having trouble believing this statement about the war.

If true,he's lost his marbles and it's a damned good thing that he's retiring!

53 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: COEXERJ145
You and everyone else here,has churchy's number.Why this troll is still allowed to post is beyond many of us.
54 posted on 06/29/2004 7:23:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Alberta's Child
And George Will thought Reagan was a fool. He has since admitted he was way wrong an that. Longtime Beltway folks are not to be taken seriously on either of their positions on most issues.
55 posted on 06/29/2004 7:23:37 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Alberta's Child
No, he supported it until two things became clear to him: 1) there never was any WMD threat that was serious enough to warrant a U.S. invasion;

That is an idiotic rationalization. The only reason he knows for sure that there have been no WMD found in large quantities is that we invaded in the first place. Had we not invaded we would STILL be dealing with the pre-war intelligence that stated he had them. As to post occupation woes, NO one said it was going to be a damned cake walk and the moment the first sign of an insurgency cropped up the Democrats and Media IMMEDIATELY started with the Quagmire crap and the more they pushed it the harder the insurgents fought to make it so.

56 posted on 06/29/2004 7:24:09 PM PDT by Texasforever (When Kerry was asked what kind of tree he would like to be he answered…. Al Gore.)
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To: churchillbuff

Hey WFB - thanks for 50 years of thoughtful ideas.

Bye Bye.


57 posted on 06/29/2004 7:24:11 PM PDT by Captiva (DVC)
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To: Timmy
And George Will thought Reagan was a fool.

WHEN did Will think Reagan a fool? He worked on Reagan's election campaign team in 1980.

58 posted on 06/29/2004 7:24:54 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Torie
Actually, Buckley doesn't make any factual assumptions in this article. It's tricky. It states that Buckley is having second thoughts, then the author adds the "facts."
59 posted on 06/29/2004 7:25:40 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: churchillbuff

What should be American policy toward despots who give santuary to those who murder American citizens?


60 posted on 06/29/2004 7:25:40 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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