Posted on 07/01/2004 8:34:16 AM PDT by qam1
I read the article to state just what you said. The media protrays their vision of the majority, not the actual majority.....
Let's you and him fight!
(*) By "Baby Boomers", I'm referring to the leftists and self-centered egotists and not the more admirable members of that generation, who most certainly exist. I'm also not referring to the people who actually escaped the folly of their youth.
Hey, I was born in '68 and I have to work for and with these people. You think you got it bad?
That's it in a nutshell. The whole scene was mostly about getting laid, and the nostalgia that these burnouts feel for that era is nostalgia for that.
The final paragraph pf Jason Muravchik's Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism reads:
By no means all socialists were killers or amoral. Many were sincere humanitarians; mostly these were the adherents of democratic socialism. But democratic socialism turned out to be a contradiction in terms, for where socialists proceeded democratically, the found themselves on a trajectory that took them further and further from socialism. Long before Lenin, socialist thinkers had anticipated the problem. The imaginary utopias of Plato, Moore, Campanella and Edward Bellamy, whose 1887 novel, Looking Backward, was the most popular socialist book in American history, all relied on coercion, as did the plans of The Conspiracy of Equals. Only once did democratic socialists manage to create socialism. That was the kibbutz. And after they had experienced it, they chose democratically to abolish it.
That's a fact. I'm getting close to retirement (nevermind that I was recently laid-off), so keep working. Keep looking for and getting those high paying jobs, cause when I retire, I demand my SS & Medicare and all the other freebies I so richly deserve.
Read Jason Muravchik's Heaven on Earth for some good examples of why socialism cannot be democratic (I posted the closing paragraph in a previous reply).
Vietnamese Witnesses Say Kerry's Squad Initiated Killing in '69 Raid
http://www.countryjoe.com/vietarchive.htm#42
Well, Yes. But in a weekend dispute with a left-infected indicidual, who wanted an "anything but Bush Revolution" I suggested that perhaps before he used the word "Revolution" he should pay more attention to who actually has the guns...
But, what about us good boomers? There are more of us than them. Of course, you might not realize that due to the entertaiment industry.
Thousands of Baby Boomers gave their lives and limbs in Vietnam.
I don't thing Bush or any of the republicans in Congress or the Senate were rioters.
It was still Bush's fault.
Which is why the second paragraph of my reply exempted the more admirable members of that generation -- those who gave their lives in Vietnam certainly being among them. But when people talk about "Baby Boomers" in the media, they aren't talking about the people you are talking about. They aren't even talking about George W. Bush or John McCain. They are talking about the Bill and Hillary Clintons, the John Kerrys, the Jane Fondas, and the Billy Joels. I don't hear too many proud Vietnam vets talking about "Baby Boomers this" and "Baby Boomers that". In fact, if you listened to those "Baby Boomers", you'd think that everyone was against the war in Vietnam and we did nothing to be proud about there. Ever notice the total lack of interest in what Vietnam is really like since the Communists took over?
Other than a brief period of silliness in the late 1970s when I listened to Jackson Browne, read "Jonathon Livingston Seagull" three times and wore "No Nukes" T-shirts (not knowing quite what any of that was supposed to mean but Ronald Reagan cured me of that nonsense anyhow), I am cheerfully uninfluenced by all baby boomer culture.
I have never smoked pot, never flashed the peace sign and I think The Beatles are an overrated pop group. I also read Tom Wolfe's "Electric Kool-Aid Test" and didn't get it. I even watched "The Big Chill" and didn't get that either, especially the sappy "blue-eyed soul" music that made up the soundtrack. Give me real soul music anyday like the Flaming Ember or the Chairmen Of The Board.
I hate being lumped in with the baby boomers.
Bill and Hillary Clinton are Baby Boomers (1945-64), but so are George W. and Laura Bush.
Ted Kennedy and the Beatles are/were members of the Silent Generation (1928-44), but so are Phil Gramm and Lee Greenwood.
Lyndon Johnson and Walter Cronkite are/were members of the G.I. Generation (1905-27), but so are/were Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley.
Earl Warren and Alfred Kinsey were members of the Lost Generation (1884-1904), but so were Robert Taft ("Mr. Republican" of the 1940s) and Friedrich A. Hayek.
You could take this chain back for numerous generations, back to the Enlightenment of the mid-1700s. Much of the public perception of strong, patriotic, taciturn World War II veterans, self-indulgent, leftist, promiscuous Baby Boomers, poorly educated, nihilistic, whiny Generation Xers are stereotypes, as much as those of lazy blacks, drunken Irishmen, and obnoxious Germans.
The cultural war is not an intergenerational conflict, a regional conflict (Northeast, West Coast, and Great Lakes vs. the Great Plains, the Rockies, and the South), nor a racial/ethnic conflict (Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, and English/German/Scandinavian Northern tier liberal Protestants, vs. British Southern and Midwestern evangelicals, Germans and Dutch (both evangelical and Catholic), and white Catholics).
The culture war is nonetheless a war; Pat Buchanan was correct in labeling it as such at the 1992 Republican convention. It is a war of ideas first and foremost. When it is over, either the Christian and Western based, rational, moral culture that characterized this nation for its first century of independence or the naturalistic and humanist, emotive, relativist culture that is presently the mainstream culture will prevail. The losers will be marginalized and eliminated.
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