Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Terrorists Don't Often Fit Stereotype, Expert Says
The Knight Ridder Washington Bureau ^ | July 1, 2004 | Robert S. Boyd

Posted on 07/02/2004 3:03:42 PM PDT by quidnunc

Most Americans have a false idea of the shadowy, worldwide terrorist network led by al-Qaida, according to a former CIA operative who collected the life histories of almost 400 members of the deadly movement.

The stereotype that these terrorists are poor, desperate, single young men from Third World countries, vulnerable to brainwashing, is wrong, Dr. Marc Sageman told an international terrorism conference in Washington this week.

Most Arab terrorists he studied were well-educated, married men from middle- or upper-class families, in their mid-20s and psychologically stable, said Sageman, a psychiatrist at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. Many of them knew several languages and traveled widely.

But when they settled in foreign countries, they became lonely, homesick and embittered, he said. They felt humiliated by the weakness and backwardness of their homelands. They formed tight cliques with fellow Arabs and drifted into mosques more for companionship than for religion. Radical preachers convinced them it was their duty to drive Americans from Muslim holy lands, killing as many as possible.

-snip-

(Excerpt) Read more at realcities.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: profile; terrorists; wot

1 posted on 07/02/2004 3:03:42 PM PDT by quidnunc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

I'm still not convinced that terrorists are 80 year old great grandmothers from Peoria.


2 posted on 07/02/2004 3:14:56 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

I saw part of a show on PBS (gag) last night about Palestinian terrorists. It was amazing to me that a human mind could really function that way. Some of them were euphoric about the idea of dying for the cause, and of course there was all that nonsense about the seventy-two virgins waiting for you in paradise. I wonder what it's like to carry out one of those suicide missions and wake up to, not seventy-two virgins, but Satan himself?


3 posted on 07/02/2004 3:27:35 PM PDT by Michael Smith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

From what I have been able to gather, not all terrorists are alike......some are named Mohammed and others are named Abdul.


4 posted on 07/02/2004 3:28:14 PM PDT by San Jacinto (Now who gets the deer....me or the dog?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: randog
"terrorists are 80 year old great grandmothers from Peoria."

What? You mean terrorists aren't warm peace loving puppies, who ordinarily wouldn't hurt a fly but have been driven to distruction by the cruel imperialist dictates of America which is controlled by the Jews? /SARCASM OFF

5 posted on 07/02/2004 3:32:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

From watching the airport screeners I thought little kids carrying miniature "action-figure" guns, arthritic old ladies and 80-year old Medal of Honor bearers constituted terrorist threats. PBS must be wrong (sarc).


6 posted on 07/02/2004 3:33:32 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Want to make a difference? http://www.numbersusa.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

Well, I don't know 'bout y'all, but I'm terrified...

7 posted on 07/02/2004 3:59:02 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: randog
I'm still not convinced that terrorists are 80 year old great grandmothers from Peoria.

Heh! Still, there are plenty of blue-eyed Muslim terrorists in the Balkans and the Caucasus. Dress one up the way you dress. Now spot the terrorist. See?

8 posted on 07/02/2004 4:15:41 PM PDT by Salman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc
Maybe this explains the bumper sticker I saw today:

Bombs can kill terrorists, but only love can stop terrorism.

Doesn't that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside?

9 posted on 07/02/2004 4:57:22 PM PDT by Karyn M. PhD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN; Caipirabob
"They're watching
me. I'll show them.
Norman
Just a harmless old lady
who wouldn't hurt a fly."

Admittedly, Caipirabob's example
is far more frightening.

10 posted on 07/02/2004 5:13:00 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Want to make a difference? http://www.numbersusa.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Michael Smith; Caipirabob; randog; NewRomeTacitus; a_Turk
"Shaheeded" HAMAS terrorist:

It sucks bro-ham! Big-time!

11 posted on 07/02/2004 6:07:15 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sanity is a madness put to good use." (Santayana.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: The Scourge of Yazid

Hillarious!


12 posted on 07/02/2004 6:11:29 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: a_Turk; LoudRepublicangirl
Than you would have loved the 'SNL' sketch about two Turkish talk show hosts who were stuck in a time warp.

It was like Steve Martin and Dan Ackroyd's "Wild and crazzzy guys" bit, except that instead of Eastern European swingers, they were Turkish.

Horation Sanz killed in that skit!

13 posted on 07/02/2004 6:15:32 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sanity is a madness put to good use." (Santayana.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: The Scourge of Yazid

Missed that one. I hope it didn't poke fun at us, 'coz we hate that..


14 posted on 07/02/2004 6:20:43 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: a_Turk
Heh, heh, heh.

Believe me, it was a playful ribbing.

I'll try to post a simulacrum of that sketch-or, my own interpretation of it-in the coming days.

If I can't find an actual transcript of the episode itself, that is.

Keep your eyes peeled!

15 posted on 07/02/2004 6:23:29 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sanity is a madness put to good use." (Santayana.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

According to the lamestream media and liberals,terrorism is caused by 'root causes' of poverty,hunger,poor housing,racism,etc.When they start talking about'root causes',you will hear the'blame America first'talking points from the utopians and elites.They want you to believe it our fault for them being terrorist.It is not our fault,terrorist are just plain evil people that hate America.


16 posted on 07/02/2004 6:40:35 PM PDT by dancusa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dancusa

"According to the lamestream media and liberals,terrorism is caused by 'root causes' of poverty,hunger,poor housing,racism,etc."

What are the root causes of poverty, hunger, poor housing, racism, etc? According to the lamestream media, that would be the USA.

According to my observations, however, that would be the broken culture and the broken governments found in countries that breed terrorists.

I know, I know..you can't JUDGE another culture. It's not FAIR. Every culture (except US culture) has it's GOOD points, and we need to EMPHASIZE those so OTHERS don't FEEL BAD.


17 posted on 07/02/2004 9:07:30 PM PDT by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Michael Smith
all that nonsense about the seventy-two virgins waiting for you in paradise.

I saw the PBS show too. The sleazy suiciders talked about 70, not 72 virgins. Apparently they're running out of virgins in Allah's heaven.

18 posted on 07/03/2004 4:43:20 AM PDT by Veto!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Veto!
So basically after they commit suicide they get to become celestial Hugh Hefners. I guess that's a genius way to sell a religion to some losers.
19 posted on 07/03/2004 5:03:59 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: LoudRepublicangirl
They have one thing in common..They get paid big bucks for their dirty work (and they're all nuts).

Just read Atta's will again. These are sick minds.

20 posted on 07/03/2004 5:36:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Veto!

Considering that they can have 4 wives and they can be as young as 12, I'd say there are no virgins in heaven except the little children who Saddam gassed and denied medical help so he could build 52 palaces under the UN program.


21 posted on 07/03/2004 5:39:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

Just read Atta's will again. These are sick minds.


I remember he wanted only clean women at his funeral. I hope that nothing but whores attended.


22 posted on 07/03/2004 5:42:07 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

Educated...in what? "Normal" childhood - in a place like Saudi Arabia, what's that mean? When these young men do it for money rather than for Islamic fun, does this mean we need to pay them instead? Anybody think that'd make a difference? The only way for us to get in there and change things is to go to war - the despots aren't going to make opportunities for their own people.

I can understand why our side wants to know the enemy - to kill them better! - but this is just more drivel in the end.


23 posted on 07/03/2004 6:17:57 AM PDT by AmericanChef
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc
The stereotype that these terrorists are poor, desperate, single young men from Third World countries, vulnerable to brainwashing, is wrong, Dr. Marc Sageman told an international terrorism conference in Washington this week.

I never thought that this was the stereotype to begin with.

24 posted on 07/03/2004 6:22:52 AM PDT by independentmind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Michael Smith
Some of them were euphoric about the idea of dying for the cause, and of course there was all that nonsense about the seventy-two virgins waiting for you in paradise.

Maybe if they had a healthy relationship with just one female on this earth, they wouldn't be as attracted to such nonsense. I have to believe that the way women are treated in Muslim society has a great deal to do with its sickness.

25 posted on 07/03/2004 6:25:12 AM PDT by independentmind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: quidnunc

Sounds like a reasonable stereotype to me:
"Most Arab terrorists he studied were well-educated, married men from middle- or upper-class families, in their mid-20s and psychologically stable......Many of them knew several languages and traveled widely."


26 posted on 07/03/2004 9:22:51 AM PDT by LA Conservative (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: independentmind
"Maybe if they had a healthy relationship with just one female on this earth, they wouldn't be as attracted to such nonsense."

You have touched on a very pertinent issue here. It's sad to think that these guys might be willing to blow themselves up just so they can have some sort of cosmic sex orgy with celestial virgins, but come to think of it, that may play a major role in this. Most of these guys are young, and perhaps it escapes us as we get older, have spouses and families, that a major preoccupation for men at this age is sex. If I could go back in time and eradicate that preoccupation from my college years I probably would have graduated with honors, but as it was, that stuff took up a lot of my brain time, and I am certain that it affected my academic performance. I realize that's normal, but when that preoccupation can be harnessed to unleash mayhem, that's bad news.

To reiterate, you raise a good point.

27 posted on 07/03/2004 1:42:46 PM PDT by Michael Smith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: independentmind
Maybe if they had a healthy relationship with just one female on this earth, they wouldn't
be as attracted to such nonsense.


It's tough in a system that will let another guy soak up as many as four wives at a time...
28 posted on 07/03/2004 1:44:51 PM PDT by VOA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson