Longevity Uncorked? [antiaging effect of red wine]

Betterhumans ^ | 6/28/2004 | By Shannon Klie

[aculeus]

Resveratrol may be the first real antiaging drug, but don't drink to your health just yet

It seems too good to be true: A drug that would let you eat all the bread, cheese, cream sauce and red meat you wanted without risking coronary disease, while at the same time decreasing insulin levels, decreasing blood pressure, increasing good cholesterol and extending your lifespan to a degree normally achieved through strict dieting.

Welcome to the promises of resveratrol, a compound in red wine that first gained recognition for its role in the French Paradox—the fact that the fatty food-consuming French have low levels of heart disease—and is now gaining attention as an antiaging compound that could have the same impact as an extremely low-calorie diet.

Of course, stories of miracle antiaging drugs are so cliché that anyone unfamiliar with recent discoveries would rightly scoff at the notion of life-extending resveratrol pills. But in this case, the story's more complicated than those of sophisticated scam artists and overblown health claims. While the small molecule has attracted much controversy, resveratrol continues to show promise as the first true antiaging drug.

[no_problema]

wee wee!

[BipolarBob]

I hope California wine will do, as my palate no longer can stomach French wine. And it gives me the runs.

[Mike Darancette]

I've seen all of those young looking winos down town.

[Reagan Man]

As an American of Irish descent, I think a daily dose (or two, or three) of beer will add many many years to my life. It's in the genes.

[Sir_Humphrey]

I stopped drinking French wines years ago (before 9-11). I prefer California or Italian. Frog water is way over priced anyway.

FWIW, I wouldn't brush my teeth in German wines.

[So Cal Rocket]

Try wines from Chile... some are excellent.

Aussie wines can be good, too.

[Pontiac]

And it gives me the runs.

French… Runs. I get it. Very subtle.

[freedumb2003]

Is anyone doing research like this on BEER????

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

health bump

[t1b8zs]

Red Red Wine make me feel so fine........

[monkapotamus]

I was just drinking a great Aussie Shiraz when I read this.

Penfold's Thomas Hyland Shiraz 2001

http://www.penfolds.com/TheRange/TastingNotes/ThomasHylandShiraz.pdf

*Goes to get another glass..

[stboz]

I shall live forever!! (Hic!)

[LibertarianInExile]

Damn, their stuff is WAAAY overpriced now, though.

I'll take Bull's Blood any day!

When the Hungarian army, led by Istvan Dobo, defeated the Ottoman Turks at Eger in 1552 and temporarily halted the Turkish advance into Europe, the city was ensured a sacred place in the country's history books. During the siege, the citizens of the town of Eger opened their wine cellars and drank red wine to give them strength to fight off the enemy. The wine spilled over their beards and onto their armor, coloring them blood red. As the citizens continued their valiant fight against the invading Turks, word spread quickly that the Hungarians were drinking the blood of bulls to make them strong and fierce. The superstitious Turks were fearful and the siege was broken.

Today the beautiful baroque city on the southern mountainside of Hungary's Beech Mountains is famous for its historical buildings and for producing some of Hungary's finest wines. It is here that you'll find a winery that still follows centuries-old traditions. Egri Bikaver, producers of the world famous Bull's Blood, creates its wine in the famous, channelled oak cellars of Eger in honor of the Turkish seige.

Egri Bikaver uses individual grapevine grades, separately picked, in order to produce this wine according to the 500-year-old recipe. Bull's Blood contains the best features of grapes such as Kekfrankos, Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, and Oporto. This wine embodies a harmony of tannin, velvetiness, and delicacy, along with its characteristic aroma. Winner of the Silver Metal at the World Wine Championships, Egri Bikaver Bull's Blood upholds the rich traditions of Hungarian winemaking.

Serving Suggestions: Open one our before serving; serve at 60-64 degrees F Egri Bikaver Bull's Blood is an outstanding wine for spicy game, roasts, steaks, and other beef dishes.

[Uncle Miltie]

Considering I'm most of the way through a bottle of Di Majo Norante Cabernet (1998), this is good news!

[Uncle Miltie]

L'chaim!

[skinkinthegrass]

Anti-ageing effects of Red Wine.

Oh Damn! Does Reared Adm. "Swimmer" Teddy drink Red Wine, or just Scotch?...or just anything?

[Uncle Miltie]

"In order for resveratrol supplements to be effective, Sardi thought, the pills should replicate the dark, airtight environment of a sealed wine bottle to prevent oxidation that decreases resveratrol's effectiveness."

The advantages of a cellar proliferate!

[DannyTN]

"A drug that would let you eat all the bread, cheese, cream sauce and red meat you wanted without risking coronary disease, while at the same time decreasing insulin levels, decreasing blood pressure, increasing good cholesterol and extending your lifespan to a degree normally achieved through strict dieting. "

Wait!!! Except for the bread, isn't that the Atkin's diet? You don't need a drug to eat all the cheese, cream sauce and red meat you want without risking coronary disease, and do all those other things. Just cut the carbs.

[Uncle Miltie]

"Sardi and his company claim that Longevinex supplements provide the health benefits of red wine without the calories, alcohol and sulphite preservatives."

One of my pet theories is that sulpha drugs in the gut (introduced by the sulfiting of wine to preserve it) probably kill nasty gut-dwelling-carcinogen-producing single celled critters.

Here's to sulfiting!

[Dinsdale]

I'm told Teddy is partial to Bushmills and flake cocaine.

At Kennedy doses the negative affects of alcohol are much worse then the beneficial ones.

Q: How many Kennedy's does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Three: One to hold the lightbulb, one to drink till the room spins and one to deny everything.

[Dinsdale]

What evidence do you have that Sulphiting wine has anything to do with sulpha drugs?

Not all regions or types of wine are sulphited. It is a preservative and is never used on wine not ment to be stored.

[Uncle Miltie]

"Wait!!! Except for the bread, isn't that the Atkin's diet?"

And properly produced french bread, with its multiple sponge rising cycles, undoubtedly has modified its otherwise white-bread appearance.

(Damn. My wife and daughter are in France right now with my in-laws. If it weren't for the French and my in-laws, I'd enjoy that trip too!)

[Uncle Miltie]

"One of my pet theories"

I never claimed proof!

[smonk]

australian reds are also excellent, especially their shiraz,
which is a french grape grown in superior australian soil.

trust me, you can live a wonderfully wine-conscious life with
californian and australian reds.

french reds always had a hint of barnyard, IMO.

[valkyrieanne]

Missouri wineries produce red wine, too. Stone Hill and Hermanhoff are good.

[RipSawyer]

If you want the real deal you must try Muscadine wine from the Carolinas.

[GVnana]

I hope California wine will do, as my palate no longer can stomach French wine

It'll do, but much depends on the part of the country you're in. On the East Coast, the better CA stuff can be hard to find. Don't overlook the Aussie reds.

[sarcasm]

[GVnana]

Try wines from Chile... some are excellent

Just now drinking a Guenoc "Victorian Claret" (California). Cabernet sauvignon, merlot, petit verdot, cabernet franc and carmenère -- Carmenere sometimes called the "South American Merlot." Cherry and roses. A little cigar box at the finish.

Available at Sam's Club under the Domaine Breton label for $5 a bottle. No kidding. A fine quaffer.

Watch out on the Chilean produce though. They don't have the same precautions on pesticide use that we do and if you're sensitive it can be a problem.

[sionnsar]

I hope California wine will do, as my palate no longer can stomach French wine.

Haven't had much French wine and am not inclined to buy it here, but I was very impressed with even the table wines I had there.

That said, I anxiously await the next Iranian revolution and the subsequent availability of true Shirazi wine, made from the Shiraz grape grown in Shiraz.


A BOOK of Verses underneath the Bough,
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread—and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness—
O, Wilderness were Paradise enow!

Some for the Glories of This World; and some
Sigh for the Prophet's Paradise to come;
Ah, take the Cash, and let the Credit go,
Nor heed the rumble of a distant Drum!

Look to the blowing Rose about us—'Lo,
Laughing,' she says, 'into the world I blow,
At once the silken tassel of my Purse
Tear, and its Treasure on the Garden throw.'

And those who husbanded the Golden grain
And those who flung it to the winds like Rain
Alike to no such aureate Earth are turn'd
As, buried once, Men want dug up again.

Think, in this batter'd Caravanserai
Whose Portals are alternate Night and Day,
How Sultán after Sultán with his Pomp
Abode his destined Hour, and went his way
.
They say the Lion and the Lizard keep
The Courts where Jamshyd gloried and drank deep:
And Bahrám, that great Hunter—the wild Ass
Stamps o'er his Head, but cannot break his Sleep.

I sometimes think that never blows so red
The Rose as where some buried Cæsar bled;
That every Hyacinth the Garden wears
Dropt in her Lap from some once lovely Head.

And this reviving Herb whose tender Green
Fledges the River-Lip on which we lean—
Ah, lean upon it lightly! for who knows
From what once lovely Lip it springs unseen
!
Ah, my Belovèd, fill the Cup that clears
TO-DAY of past Regrets and Future Fears:
To-morrow!—Why, To-morrow I may be
Myself with Yesterday's Sev'n thousand Years.

For some we loved, the loveliest and the best
That from his Vintage rolling Time hath prest,
Have drunk their Cup a Round or two before,
And one by one crept silently to rest.

And we, that now make merry in the Room
They left, and Summer dresses in new bloom,
Ourselves must we beneath the Couch of Earth
Descend—ourselves to make a Couch—for whom?

Ah, make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too into the Dust descend;
Dust unto Dust, and under Dust to lie,
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and—sans End!

Ah, with the Grape my fading Life provide,
And wash my Body whence the Life has died,
And lay me, shrouded in the living Leaf,
By some not unfrequented Garden-side....

Yon rising Moon that looks for us again—
How oft hereafter will she wax and wane;
How oft hereafter rising look or us
Through this same Garden—and for one in vain!

And when like her O Sákí, you shall pass
Among the Guests star-scatter'd on the Grass,
And in your joyous errand reach the spot
Where I made One—turn down an empty Glass!

(LibreOuMort, "Saki" again...?)

[skinkinthegrass]

Q: How many Kennedy's does it take to change a lightbulb?..A: Three: One to hold the lightbulb, one to drink till the room spins and one to deny everything.

HA!HA!..one to deny everything and blame G.W. BUSH for it. :)

[GVnana]

"And much as Wine has play'd the Infidel,
And robb'd me of my Robe of Honour -- Well
I wonder often what the Vinters buy
One half so precious as the stuff they sell.

The Rubiyat of Omar Khayyam.

UC Davis has a vintnology team in Afghanistan right now. If those Muslims would let the grapes grow, that country could be one of the greats in 20 years.

[Tribune7]

ping

[tpaine]

BipolarBob;
I hope California wine will do, as my palate no longer can stomach French wine

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It'll do, but much depends on the part of the country you're in. On the East Coast, the better CA stuff can be hard to find. Don't overlook the Aussie reds.
28 GVgirl


Just now drinking a Guenoc "Victorian Claret" (California). Cabernet sauvignon, merlot, petit verdot, cabernet franc and carmenère -- Carmenere sometimes called the "South American Merlot." Cherry and roses. A little cigar box at the finish.
Available at Sam's Club under the Domaine Breton label for $5 a bottle. No kidding. A fine quaffer.
-GVgirl-

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I'm just now drinking a Franzia (California) "Vintners Select Merlot." Blachberry and Tulips. A little cigarette box at the finish.

Available at Sav Mart Market under the Domaine Ripon label for $5.99 the five liter box.
No kidding. A fine swill.

[GVnana]

What? You lost your bottle of Thunderbird?

[toomanygrasshoppers]

"Try wines from Chile..."

Try Santa Rita 120 Merlot. It's widely available and well under $7.00 per bottle. The BEST wine for the price. All Chilean wines are undervalued IMO.

[tpaine]

'Thunderbird' at 99 cents the pint is pretty high priced stuff in Menlo Park Ca, home of two buck Chuck and getting cheaper wines.

Bottled water is being given a run for its money in the golden state.

[toomanygrasshoppers]

Jacob's Creek Shiraz. Yummy.

[toomanygrasshoppers]

Don't laugh, but some Texas wines are wonderful. In blind tastings they are beating California and French wines. The Texas wine industry is where California was in the 1950's-60's.

[GVnana]

Hey! I like Two Buck Chuck! Ok. I confess. I have a game I play with wine. Find the undervalued bottle before Wine Spectator does. One of my best picks was Segezzhio Zinfandel when it was still $5. WS profiled it and it's been $16+ ever since. The quest continues....

[Happygal]

You SHOULD see the picture I have in the attic! *HIC*

[GVnana]

Yeah. I hear you guys even have drinkable Chardonnay. Although I can't imagine in what part of Texas it grows. Enlighten me.

[Happygal]

Still got a bottle of Riesling with my name on it? :-)

[Happygal]

Penfolds is a really nice wine. Good choice.

I know this is a thread for red wine, but at the moment I'm going through a German Riesling phase.

[GVnana]

German Riesling

AKA "The King of Grapes"

[GnL]

Not all regions or types of wine are sulphited. It is a preservative and is never used on wine not ment to be stored.

As a professional winemaker, I have to disagree strongly with this statement. If you are talking typical table wines (alc.%11-14), nearly every commercial wine you buy has a certain level of sulfites. Some wineries use less than others, but for a wine that is going to remain in the bottle for longer than a month or two, it is almost a necessity. A few daring wineries try to bottle their wines with no sulfites but it requires extreme cleanliness, sanitation and minimal wine exposure to oxygen. Even then, I wouldn't buy one--too many things can go wrong in a bottle of wine that isn't sulfited. Sulfur dioxide is an antioxidant and is antimicrobial. It is also a naturally occurring result of normal yeast fermentation.

[tubebender]

I can't drink any wine right due to the half dozen drugs I'm taking while I wait for UCSF Med center to call and tell me if I can get by with angioplasty or will need bypass surgery for my blocked arteries. I looking for a good tasting faux red wine that isn't loaded with carbs. I picked up a bottle of Sutter Home White Zinfandel today that is not too bad. Sutter Home makes a red "wine" that is terrible...

[GVnana]

minimal wine exposure to oxygen

Have a local winemaker that's into "organic wines" and no-sulfites. Some of them are really nice, but boy, you open that bottle and you better drink it within an hour or two or it's wasted.

[RandallFlagg]

Is anyone doing research like this on BEER????

Nightly....