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ABC News: Kerry May Have Already Picked Gephardt
ABC's The Note ^ | July 4, 2004 | ABC News Political Unit

Posted on 07/04/2004 7:48:33 AM PDT by Bonaventure

Over the last few weeks, Sen. Kerry has had many more face-to-face meetings with potential picks than the press has reported.

One such meeting, several well-informed sources say, took place last Thursday night.

Kerry was in his home in Georgetown, and at around 10:30 pm, the last reporter staking him out -- someone from ABC News -- appeared to leave for the night.

Our sources say that Kerry and his Secret Service agents then went the very short distance to the nearby home of former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Albright is a supporter of Kerry and has her office now in the same office building in Washington as the Kerry campaign.

At Albright's house late Thursday night, Kerry had a meeting with just a small group of people -- one of whom, our sources say, seemed to be the person Kerry at that moment planned to pick as his running mate.

Although Kerry said as recently as yesterday that he has not made a decision, our sources believe that this meeting might have served as the final face-to-face session the future running mates will have before announcement day, which could be as soon as this Tuesday.

Of the three potential picks whose advisers have confirmed have handed over reams of background information and believe themselves to be still in the running, there's only one we think was in DC that night -- Dick Gephardt. Tom Vilsack's staff says he was in Iowa and John Edwards, like many great Americans, was at Disney World with his family.

Other options -- Senator Joseph Biden, former Defense Secretary Bill Cohen, well, we are still checking to pin down where they were on Thursday night.

Of course, Senator Kerry could have changed whatever decision he might have made since last Thursday, and it is possible he has sent mixed signals (purposefully or not) to his advisers.

The Kerry campaign had no comment on this.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2004; gephardt; kerry; ketchup; veep; veepstakes
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Earlier, unidentified union sources said that Gephardt was a done deal. Could it be true? Or is Kerry engaged in misdirection?
1 posted on 07/04/2004 7:48:34 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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To: Bonaventure
Of course, Senator Kerry could have changed whatever decision he might have made since last Thursday....

Kerry could have changed whatever decision he might have made five seconds ago.

2 posted on 07/04/2004 7:50:45 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Bonaventure

This subterfuge is silly. It will be Edwards.


3 posted on 07/04/2004 7:50:47 AM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Bonaventure

Dull and Duller


4 posted on 07/04/2004 7:51:04 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Be a Dollar a Day FReeper, and SMILE when you get your Mastercard bill!)
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To: montag813

I'm with you


5 posted on 07/04/2004 7:51:40 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: Vision

For the record, I, too, think it'll be Edwards.


6 posted on 07/04/2004 7:52:17 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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To: Bonaventure
Or is Kerry engaged in misdirection?

I think so. Maybe as a trial balloon. I still think its going to be Hitlery Clinton.

7 posted on 07/04/2004 7:55:31 AM PDT by Bommer (RIP Ronald Reagan!)
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To: montag813

Edwards has too much personality, but he has too little experience (1 Senate term) and appeared to be non-re-electable to the Senate from his own state. That isn't too good of a resume.

Gephardt brings most of the labor union vote and more midwestern-ism to counter Kerry's northeast elite-ism.

I don't see Gephardt helping Kerry with the southern vote.

I don't see Hillary. That indicates that (1) either Hillary has no plan to run until possibly 2012 (doubtful; too much lipo and facelifting); or (2) the Clintons consider the Kerry campaign a dead horse, giving Hillary a clear shot for 2008.


8 posted on 07/04/2004 7:57:09 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 30 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Bonaventure

Oh, please, please, please, please, please let it be Gephardt. Lurch and Howdy Doody - what fun we would have.


9 posted on 07/04/2004 7:57:42 AM PDT by thepatriot1
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To: Bonaventure

Picking Gephardt would at least keep him breathing until 2008.


10 posted on 07/04/2004 7:58:22 AM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: Bonaventure
ABC News: Kerry May Have Already Picked Gephardt

So he picked him before he picked him. But if he ends up going with Edwards, then he will have picked him before he didn't pick him.

11 posted on 07/04/2004 8:00:22 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Bonaventure
Kerry is arrogant and doesn't believe in misdirection. OTOH, Kerry is indecisive and may still be flip-flopping between Head Gephardt and Edwards.

Gephardt would certainly maintain the dem VP gravitas and stature standards set by PanderAl Gore.

12 posted on 07/04/2004 8:00:44 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: Bonaventure
For the record, I, too, think it'll be Edwards.

I've thought that for months. I'd be most surprised if it were someone else.

13 posted on 07/04/2004 8:01:04 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Tijeras_Slim

An all out assault on the boring vote for sure.


14 posted on 07/04/2004 8:01:08 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Bonaventure
Gephardt would be a strong pick for Kerry. I have long thought Edwards would be the man, and he still may be, but I think now Gephardt would be the better choice. No Southern strategy will work for Kerry so Edwards is wasted on that score, it seems. Gephardt helps in the Midwest and shores up the union vote, if it needs shoring up. He's also a clean guy with no scandals or skeletons in his closet, I'll bet. Also, Gephardt is very dull so he wouldn't easily overshadow the main candidate.

Smart, if it's true.

15 posted on 07/04/2004 8:01:43 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: All

If he pics Gephardt I am convinced he is a plant and I will start believing in conspiracy theories.... did you all know Kennedy is still alive?


16 posted on 07/04/2004 8:02:11 AM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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To: montag813

Bingo. We have a winner.


17 posted on 07/04/2004 8:02:25 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: TomGuy
the Clintons consider the Kerry campaign a dead horse.

If it's not already dead they'll administer the final bullets.

18 posted on 07/04/2004 8:02:32 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: TomGuy

Any lamesteam masturbation over Gephardt, Edwards, or the like is just setup and initialization for the so-called VP "surprise", alluded to last week. Makes it that much more
of a "surprise". Why would there even be mention of a "surprise", unless that option was the most likely and serious one. If it were not so, and one of the named candidates were chosen, it would make the mention of a surprise, in hindsight, appear silly.


19 posted on 07/04/2004 8:04:10 AM PDT by C210N
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To: Tacis
Gephardt would certainly maintain the dem VP gravitas and stature standards set by PanderAl Gore.

Heheheh...

Gephardt is the safer choice. And whatever his shortcomings, at least he's an adult, unlike the Clinton-Gore manchild duo.

Edwards would help close the "charisma gap", though.

20 posted on 07/04/2004 8:04:45 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: hoosiermama

What, exactly, does Madame Notalbright do in her office in Georgetown ?


21 posted on 07/04/2004 8:05:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: Bonaventure
former Defense Secretary Bill Cohen

That would make it the perfect "Sticks and Stones" ticket. Could there be 2 more boring guys?

22 posted on 07/04/2004 8:06:08 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Bonaventure

Our Dick is better than their Dick.


23 posted on 07/04/2004 8:09:09 AM PDT by Fintan (Seriously...does my hair look all right?)
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To: Bonaventure
Edwards taking his family to DisneyWorld suggests that he could be the one. After all, knowing that your life could change forever, why not take the opportunity for one last vacation in a public place without being surrounded by Secret Service agents all the time?

I doubt it will be Gephardt. Gephardt is a tired face in the Democratic Party who brings nothing to the ticket. His lackluster presidential campaign last year generated no excitement at all. About the only thing he could do for Kerry is keep Missouri in play and that's not much. Gephardt is a throwback and would do for Kerry what Jack Kemp did for Bob Dole - absolutely nothing.

As for Hillary, are you kidding? That would be a gift from God because Hillary would make Kerry toxic and unelectable in at least 40 states. We'd be talking margins (for Bush) of 50+ points in many Southern and Western states. A Kerry/Hillary ticket would result in a Bush landslide of epic proportions. That is why it would never happen in real life (though I do daydream about the possibility).

24 posted on 07/04/2004 8:10:23 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Manos - The Hands Of Fate)
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To: Bonaventure
This is worth adding to this thread......

http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/cartoonarc/VeepContest.htm


25 posted on 07/04/2004 8:10:49 AM PDT by deport (Life is simpler when you plow around the stumps.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What, exactly, does Madame Notalbright do in her office in Georgetown ?

She probably does NOT look in the mirror. If she did she would have suicided out long ago.

26 posted on 07/04/2004 8:12:11 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Fintan

VP Debate: The Battle of the Dicks.


27 posted on 07/04/2004 8:12:43 AM PDT by ShandaLear (John Kerry, the gift that keeps on giving!)
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To: Bonaventure
Regardless of WHO Kerry picks for a running mate, this one thing remains constant ---

Amendment XIV Section 3...No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer to any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. The Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

The then powers that be let Jane Fonda get away with giving aid and comfort to the enemy - are we to do it again? NO Send Amendment XIV - Section 3. to all you know especially your Congressmen. Do this for America and our Constitution. John F. Kerry is not fit to lead this country, perhaps Hanoi, but not AMERICA!

Put heat on Congress to obey the Constitution - remove Kerry from the campaign for presidency! Kerry was then and is now in direct violation of the United States Constitution, an instrument Democrats ignore 95% of the time. We are Americans - be an American and let your elected hear from you tomorrow! The 14th Amendment was written for men/women just like Kerry and Jane Fonda. The enemy within is running an illegal campaign.

28 posted on 07/04/2004 8:12:44 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Bonaventure

does it matter?


29 posted on 07/04/2004 8:14:00 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: Tacis

Gephardt is much better than Algore, but he look like a nazi


30 posted on 07/04/2004 8:15:49 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: Bonaventure

Edwards is cuter but if anything happened to Kerry as president could you picture Edwards being the guy in charge..?


31 posted on 07/04/2004 8:16:01 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: deport

BTW...ha!


32 posted on 07/04/2004 8:17:28 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Batrachian

Kerry's been polling daily, plus begging Clintons and flunkies for advice and counsel. So far, nobody's managed to give him the best advice which is to stop the incessant lies and 'nuances'. The long delay in choosing a vp is a ploy to hype interest in his flagging campaign. When they lose, as they will, Kerry will blame the vp candidate. TerAYsa will foam at the mouth and threaten to move out of the country. We should volunteer to help her pack.


33 posted on 07/04/2004 8:18:32 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Bonaventure
Or is Kerry engaged in misdirection?

Methinks so. My money's on Edwards.

34 posted on 07/04/2004 8:19:02 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Bonaventure

I'm sensing a swerve. Could be none of the above. Maybe they're throwing out a couple of leads to get the media going then pull a fast one to get everyone talking when Kerry picks someone no one has really talked about yet. If I had to guess, I'd say Vilsack.


35 posted on 07/04/2004 8:20:16 AM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: Bonaventure

Bring Him On!

36 posted on 07/04/2004 8:21:26 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Bonaventure

Ghepardt helps with missouri and Iowa, Edwards helps with nothing.


37 posted on 07/04/2004 8:23:29 AM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: Bonaventure
This just in:

In yet another moment of indecision, John Kerry announced that he has chosen Dick Gephardt AND John Edwards AND Joseph Biden as his running mate.

38 posted on 07/04/2004 8:23:55 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Hostile

VIlsack...is not a positive name....Looks too much like ILL Sack/barf bag.....Does not bring up a positive image.


39 posted on 07/04/2004 8:25:10 AM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Jeff Gordon; Eric in the Ozarks

Madge runs the Pew Charitable Trusts.


40 posted on 07/04/2004 8:25:24 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: Bonaventure
Or is Kerry engaged in misdirection?

Misdirection, I'd say. He swings through Iowa (Vilsak)....will be in Boston on the 5th (Edwards), and plans to be in New York on the 6th (Hillary).

41 posted on 07/04/2004 8:26:19 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (God Bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: montag813
Edwards seems the logical choice.

Kerry has certainly shown himself to be vacillating and indecisive in this process. Edwards vs. Gephardt vs. Vilsack is a pretty "ho hum" decision. (My guess is that Hillary doesn't really want the job and would rather run in 2008.) Also, Kerry's interest in McCain as VP should never have become public knowledge.

42 posted on 07/04/2004 8:28:20 AM PDT by dano1
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To: Bonaventure
Could it be true?

Could very well be. I don't think kerry's natural disdain for common people would let him partner with a pretty southern boy. Even though is edwards is liberal enough, slimey enough, and wealthy enough to be a democrat politician, he did, after all have to earn his money rather than marry it. Then too, he just might embarass the proper ruling class by having had some past positive experience with grits.

43 posted on 07/04/2004 8:31:48 AM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What, exactly, does Madame Notalbright do in her office in Georgetown ?

I'm sure her staff made sure she had a big picture window so she can occupy herself all day counting license plates.

44 posted on 07/04/2004 8:35:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Bonaventure; Admin Moderator

Admin: Shouldn't this go in Breaking News. The more I think about it, the more legit and unassailable it seems. ABC's "The Note" crew is composed of typical media elite eleftist types that are plugged-in to the Kerry campaign. I believe this will prove out to have been the breaking story on the VP pick (and oh, my, what a stinker of a pick it is...)


45 posted on 07/04/2004 8:36:21 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Bonaventure

IMO, Kerrys best pick would be Lieberman. That would provide a "balance" of a Liberal and a Moderate.

However, I think he will pick Dip Gekhart in the mistaken belief that this would gain him Missouri. Dip has no great popularity here (statewide) - only in St. Louis area. I strongly doubt MO electoral votes would go to a Kerry/Gekhart ticket.


46 posted on 07/04/2004 8:37:01 AM PDT by Chief (Democrats are the 'bait and switch' party)
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To: Bonaventure
As T.S. Eliot put it - "In a minute there is time for a hundred decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse."

Regards, Ivan

47 posted on 07/04/2004 8:39:21 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: hershey
Kerry's been polling daily, plus begging Clintons and flunkies for advice and counsel. So far, nobody's managed to give him the best advice which is to stop the incessant lies and 'nuances'

Asking the Clintons for advice on how not to incessantly lie, isn't that a little like getting diet advice from Michael Moore?

48 posted on 07/04/2004 8:41:27 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Bonaventure

Gee, al Querry might pick Mad Halfbright as his Veep.

That would be a wonder combo!


49 posted on 07/04/2004 8:41:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Salute the 4th, Free Republic, and Jim Rob, become a monthly donor to Free Republic!)
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To: Bonaventure

Gee, al Querry might pick Mad Halfbright as his Veep.

That would be a wonder combo!


50 posted on 07/04/2004 8:41:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Salute the 4th, Free Republic, and Jim Rob, become a monthly donor to Free Republic!)
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