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Spider ID Help
Spadata ^ | 4 Jul 2004

Posted on 07/04/2004 6:54:02 PM PDT by steplock

I need some SPIDER identification help.

A few weeks ago, I was bitten by a Brown Recluse (very painful and long lasting effects). One of my dogs was bitten by another spider - and my wife a couple days ago was also bitten - but NOT by another Recluse luckily.

Tonight I just found THIS rather large spider sitting at my back door - now dead!

Can anyone identify this arachnid? Hot Springs Arkansas area. Thanx!

ps. that is 1 inch on the scale.



TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Arkansas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arachnids; bugs; crabs; spiders
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1 posted on 07/04/2004 6:54:02 PM PDT by steplock
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To: steplock

I don't like it.


2 posted on 07/04/2004 6:56:07 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: steplock

Call an exterminator


3 posted on 07/04/2004 6:56:37 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: nuconvert

OOF DA


4 posted on 07/04/2004 6:57:06 PM PDT by joyce11111
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To: steplock

Is this a setup for the next Spiderman sequel? Spiderman, Spiderwoman and Spiderdog?


5 posted on 07/04/2004 6:57:08 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: steplock

Looks like Shelob.


6 posted on 07/04/2004 6:57:11 PM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: steplock

You need to move.


7 posted on 07/04/2004 6:57:40 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: steplock

Icky....


8 posted on 07/04/2004 6:57:59 PM PDT by codyjacksmom
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To: Larry Lucido
Spiderdog

Speaking of which...


9 posted on 07/04/2004 6:59:18 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: spetznaz; AdmSmith

Spider Pong


10 posted on 07/04/2004 6:59:27 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: steplock
This is a brown recluse:

What you have looks like a plain old orb weaver to me. HINT: BR's make cobwebs, orb weavers make spiral webs.

Lots of Brown Recluse-related pix.

11 posted on 07/04/2004 7:00:35 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: steplock

I think it's a black widow.


12 posted on 07/04/2004 7:01:06 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: steplock

I think it's a type of wolf spider, but you still need to move.


13 posted on 07/04/2004 7:03:51 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

ping


14 posted on 07/04/2004 7:04:23 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: steplock

Looks like a sub-type of the Wolf Spider. Common to North America. Usually found outdoors but sometimes gets in the house. Does bite but the venom is very mild in toxicity. A small number of individuals could be sensitive to it though.


15 posted on 07/04/2004 7:05:07 PM PDT by dandi ("No nation ever taxed it's way into prosperity." - R.L.)
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To: steplock

It kinda looks like a common Wolf Spider similar to a North Carolina Wolf Spider.

Here is a link to some common spiders in your area

http://www.hr-rna.com/RNA/Main%20pages/Spiders%20frame%20page.htm

Good Luck


16 posted on 07/04/2004 7:05:11 PM PDT by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare"!)
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To: steplock

From your pic, it looks like a Carcass SPider.


17 posted on 07/04/2004 7:05:41 PM PDT by Bob J (freerepublic.net/ radiofreerepublic.com/rightalk.com...check them out!)
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To: steplock

Get Out While You STill CAN!


18 posted on 07/04/2004 7:06:12 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: steplock

Who cares? Run screaming into the night.


19 posted on 07/04/2004 7:08:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: steplock
I agree with the wolf spider ID. Not certain, but size alone rules out just about everything else. Here's a photo: Carolina Wolf Spider
20 posted on 07/04/2004 7:08:06 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Slings and Arrows

Oh I know what a Brown Recluse looks like --- and feels like!

This looked like an orb spider, but I haven't seen one this size in the US.

I just found a picture of a female WOLF SPIDER that appears similar to this. If it is, I should have just tossed it back into the woods.

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/spiders/lycosa_helluo.jpg
Wolf Spider Female - Dorsal View,
Lycosa (Hogna) helluo


21 posted on 07/04/2004 7:08:20 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock

Wouldn't worry much about it. Thought all arachnids are venomous, there are only two you need to worry about, the brown recluse, which you've already met, and the black widow, whose bit is irksome to an adult but almost never fatal. Your specimen is neither.


22 posted on 07/04/2004 7:08:33 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: steplock

Call your local/state poison control center. They will be open 24/365. If they can't tell you, they will direct you to someone who can.


23 posted on 07/04/2004 7:08:35 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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To: The Working Man

Hmmm.. this is the wolf spider I'm familiar with. But It seems to be one huge difference between the male & female of this species.

This is a male:

http://www.hr-rna.com/RNA/images/Spiders/Garage%20Wolf%20rez.jpg


24 posted on 07/04/2004 7:10:33 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock

I'm in South Carolina, and the spiders can get right BIG here - I think it's because the weather is moderate, so they stand a better chance of surviving winter.

Wolf spider or orb weaver, sounds like you're fine.


25 posted on 07/04/2004 7:11:19 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Slings and Arrows; All

Thanx to all!

Maybe I'm getting just a tad bit spider shy after getting bit by the Brown Recluse.

I had been bit by a Black Widow many years ago in High School - That was a rather painful experience also for a week!


26 posted on 07/04/2004 7:13:24 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock

There are lots of links about spiders in your area here http://www.uark.edu/~dksander/spiders.html


27 posted on 07/04/2004 7:13:56 PM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: steplock
Giant Camel Spider - Iraq


28 posted on 07/04/2004 7:15:12 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: steplock

Here in Florida I am quite used to spiders. You name it I think we got one around here somewhere. My Favorites are the huntsman spiders. At least they hunt cockroaches!

And to keep the spiders in check we have all of the wasps....

Good luck up there!


29 posted on 07/04/2004 7:15:15 PM PDT by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare"!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Wowm, how long have you been hanging on to that photo, waiting for just the right opening? :-)


30 posted on 07/04/2004 7:16:21 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: MindBender26

They discontinued the poison control center in TX, for some reason.


31 posted on 07/04/2004 7:16:33 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: hmmmmm

I was about to say that I couldn't believe that they left out the Brown Recluse - a very common spider in Arkansas - but then I saw ....

.... uark.edu - that explained the inaccuracy.

;>)


32 posted on 07/04/2004 7:17:28 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock

ahhh this reminds me of my Brown Recluse thread over a year ago!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908924/posts?q=1&&page=1

I am glad you are doing better after being bitten by a Brown Recluse. Make sure you spray your house for spiders in the early spring and late fall. Also know that some people get secondary "sores" popping up after getting bitten by a brown recluse, sometimes they pop out months later. Take care of the bite!


33 posted on 07/04/2004 7:17:48 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: T Minus Four

LOL! Google Images. Apparently spiderdog costumes are quite popular.


34 posted on 07/04/2004 7:19:00 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: steplock

It's the endangered Brown Wolf spider. By killing this animal, you have violated 27 fedral statutes. Your home will be taken from you and turned into a nature preserve. You will move to Leavenworth.


35 posted on 07/04/2004 7:19:19 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column)
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To: steplock

How'd you kill him, btw? It almost looks like he was harangued to death.


36 posted on 07/04/2004 7:23:06 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: All

Oh my God... this whole thread is like my worst nightmare come to life!!!!


37 posted on 07/04/2004 7:24:41 PM PDT by saquin
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To: steplock

*L*


38 posted on 07/04/2004 7:24:58 PM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
I agree with the wolf spider ID. Not certain, but size alone rules out just about everything else.

I'm also inclined to agree. The only other common spider that large or larger are fishing spiders normally found near rivers and streams.

Note to the petitioner: next time photograph your spider topside up. :>)

39 posted on 07/04/2004 7:26:27 PM PDT by ngc6656
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To: ngc6656

Actually, that IS the top side of the spider.

The legs were pulled up and I didn't really want to reach down there and straighten them out.

It was still moving a bit.


40 posted on 07/04/2004 7:39:11 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: ngc6656

Here is a site where people try to identify each other's spiders. Although hosted in Australia, people also post from U.S.

http://www.rochedalss.qld.edu.au/spiderphotos.htm


41 posted on 07/04/2004 7:41:05 PM PDT by Zap Brannigan
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To: nuconvert
I never had arachnophobia until I served in the Sinai. Out on remote site we had to man our perimeter every morning and night, and one morning one of these 4 jawed bastards fell on my shoulder out of the sandbags. Felt like a first-baseman's mitt grabbing me in the dark.

I don't think I've ever moved that fast at anything.....My squad members caught it, and we kept it as a pet for the 6 months we were there. Watching them eat scorpions is amazing.

42 posted on 07/04/2004 7:45:54 PM PDT by datura (Vote Democrat, and You've Voted Communist. Move Out Of America.)
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To: steplock
Actually, that IS the top side of the spider.

Whoops! Sure am glad I added the smiley face to the request.

The legs were pulled up and I didn't really want to reach down there and straighten them out.

Hardly blame you for that. I'm not terrified of spiders, even had a pet jumping spider one time, but I don't like offering fingers as food or for target practice.

43 posted on 07/04/2004 7:54:28 PM PDT by ngc6656
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To: steplock
ps. that is 1 inch on the scale.

I think it's too big. What I would do is bring the heel of a shoe down on it sharply, several times, until it achieves a height more like 1/32nd of an inch.


44 posted on 07/04/2004 7:56:30 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay bow wow yippie yo yippie yay)
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To: steplock

Oh - that's simple.


It's a dead spider. Duh.


Actually - looks like the writing spiders we have around here. I've seen them get pretty good sized - five inches or so with the legs spread out.


45 posted on 07/04/2004 7:56:35 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/index.html)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

What do they write about, mostly? Terroristic birds and Raid?


46 posted on 07/04/2004 8:01:02 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: steplock

Far from a spider expert.

I know that the wolf spiders in Taiwan--their pee, saliva or some such is very toxic.


47 posted on 07/04/2004 8:01:11 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Hootowl
My black widow experience. I was in the Air Force, stationed at glorious Nellis AFB, NV. Went out in the box shed (where we kept all our boxes for reuse, hence the name "box shed") and was digging around for a packing box for an engine part. Got bit on the right fore arm and didn't even notice it. Next morning, I get up, right fore arm is swollen, hot to the touch, and red. Went to sick call. Physicians Assistant calls in a doctor, doctor asks a couple questions "dark places? warm places? etc etc" and tells me "Sergeant, you've been bitten by a black widow. There's nothing we can do for you now."

Nothing you can do for me? I'm thinking that's it - I'm dead, better get to legal and write a will - doc sees the look on my face and says "Oh - I mean, if you'd come in yesterday, we could have done this or that or the other thing. As it is, we'll give you some antibiotics for possible infection and put you on quarters for two days."

Dammit, Doctor - you really need to work on your bedside manner.

48 posted on 07/04/2004 8:06:02 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/index.html)
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To: Nick Danger
Incidentally, let me put in a plug for Swifter, that dust-mop thingie. With no dust-paper on it, it provides a hard planar surface of sizeable dimension, on the end of a nice long handle. I have found that it is large enough so that even if the bug senses this thing coming straight down on it, it can't ran fast enough to get away before the bug-height-adjustment is performed.
49 posted on 07/04/2004 8:06:52 PM PDT by Nick Danger (Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay bow wow yippie yo yippie yay)
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To: Zap Brannigan
Here is a site where people try to identify each other's spiders. Although hosted in Australia, people also post from U.S. <

Thanks. Interesting site.

50 posted on 07/04/2004 8:10:35 PM PDT by ngc6656
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