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Spadata ^ | 4 Jul 2004

Posted on 07/04/2004 6:54:02 PM PDT by steplock

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To: steplock

It's a barn spider. Pretty common in the south. Not dangerous. Makes a big round web.


51 posted on 07/04/2004 8:10:57 PM PDT by Merdoug
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To: steplock

Yep. Wolf spider. Run like hell.

That thing looks HUGH!


52 posted on 07/04/2004 8:13:16 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: txflake
What do they write about, mostly?

Hell, I don't know - looks like they're just scribbling mainly. Could be Aramaic for that matter.

53 posted on 07/04/2004 8:13:23 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/index.html)
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To: steplock

I used to live in West Little Rock and caught many Black Widow and BR spiders. Moved to Maumelle near the Arkansas River and saw many spiders larger than the one you have pictured. If you had a BR in your house then you probably have many. many BR spiders in your attic. Call the UofA they have done extensive studies of BR spiders in Arkansas. You could need some help.


54 posted on 07/04/2004 8:13:32 PM PDT by LittleRedRooster
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To: RandallFlagg
That thing looks HUGH!

Oh, please - this is a series thread!

55 posted on 07/04/2004 8:14:19 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/index.html)
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To: steplock
I'm so lucky - with my two cats, anything that wanders in here that has more than four legs becomes a toy.

Maven
56 posted on 07/04/2004 8:18:45 PM PDT by Maven
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To: datura

OK, ya got my curiousity going, but the pic didn't show up.


57 posted on 07/04/2004 8:18:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Maven

We have one cat. We like to keep him in practice with the laser pointer.


58 posted on 07/04/2004 8:21:41 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Merdoug
Barn spider?

Wolf-types burrow caves in the ground and spin webs about the entrance and pounce out on any web-shakers. Wolfs, tarantulas are pretty heavy - web can't support their weight so they must burrow.

There are huge banana-spiders - the ones who zig-zag a 'Z' line in their web, but their legs are thin and hairless. Thick-legged, hairy spiders typically burrow.

While we're at it, crabs are water-spiders and spiders are land-crabs. Arachnidae, the eight-leggers. I often wonder if spiders taste as good to birds as crabs taste to me. Now I'm hungry.

59 posted on 07/04/2004 8:22:37 PM PDT by txhurl (Why am I stuck on this thread?)
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To: steplock

looks like a Timber Spider.


60 posted on 07/04/2004 8:23:33 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: txflake

MMMmmmm... Barbeque spiderlegs....
61 posted on 07/04/2004 8:26:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: datura

I'll have to imagine it..........


62 posted on 07/04/2004 8:30:50 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: nuconvert

OK. I just right-clicked, "Properties," on the "X". He's talking about them Camel-Spiders.


63 posted on 07/04/2004 8:32:23 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: steplock

I think from the color of it's legs, it got some bad Acid...


64 posted on 07/04/2004 8:35:39 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: steplock
It would be a much more nostalgic thread if you said you were holding the spider under your foot while you made the post.

My favorite Florida spider story is about when I was driving along and saw what looked like a big black dot suspended in the sky. As I closed the 100 yards or so I discovered it was a spider sitting in the middle of a web strung between the power and phone lines that crossed the street. I guess it was waiting for a bird or maybe a convertible to drive by :)

65 posted on 07/04/2004 8:36:53 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: nuconvert

It's definitely not a black widow. Black widows have thin legs, not hairy ones like the spider in the photo. Black widows are also solidly black, kind of shiny black, on their topside.


66 posted on 07/04/2004 8:38:00 PM PDT by rimtop56
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To: Ichneumon

Perhaps you can offer some help on this thread?


67 posted on 07/04/2004 8:38:22 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: rimtop56

Yeah, they're also out west, and he isn't. But it sounded scary...........


68 posted on 07/04/2004 8:39:29 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: RandallFlagg
MY GOD! Did you see those things?

Now you see why I'm hungry? You can't tell me they wouldn't be scrumptious with some garlic butter.

69 posted on 07/04/2004 8:48:25 PM PDT by txhurl (Why am I stuck on this thread?)
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To: txflake

I haven't yet mastered flipping food in a skillet while running and screaming.

I'm not afraid of heights, rats, water, crowds, public speaking, bugs, snakes, liberals, bats, or much else.

Spiders have always scared ol' Flagg.


70 posted on 07/04/2004 8:56:16 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: NonValueAdded

OK! THAT'S IT!!

I am NEVER going to Florida now!!!!


71 posted on 07/04/2004 8:58:55 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: RandallFlagg
You think spiders are terrifying, come czech out TX scorpions.

They scurry about on your ceiling, plotting the exact place to let go and free-fall onto your head.

Or they wait in lay in your boots.

72 posted on 07/04/2004 9:05:22 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: steplock

How did you get bitten?


73 posted on 07/04/2004 9:05:54 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: nuconvert

Oh my gosh, that looks like something out of a horror movie! Yikes!


74 posted on 07/04/2004 9:06:51 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6

It was actually in the guy's sleeping bag with him!


75 posted on 07/04/2004 9:08:15 PM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: steplock

Looks like a female from the Family Agelenidae. It's a type of wolf spider that lives in the grass. Harmless...I think.

Could you take a picture of the front so that we could see the position of the eyes.


76 posted on 07/04/2004 9:20:45 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: steplock
Can anyone identify this arachnid?

It's Ernie!

77 posted on 07/04/2004 9:23:33 PM PDT by Peelod (Perversion is not festive)
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To: txflake

Oh, I know all about yer fine wildlife in Texas (God, I miss Texas!).

I think the farther south one goes, the bigger the bugs get.
Strap some strings on those HUGH roaches and you can tow your car with 'em.


78 posted on 07/04/2004 9:35:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: RandallFlagg; steplock; nuconvert

I guess we must have grossed out the petitioner beyond repair. Steplock and family are probably in a hotel somewhere, having caulked up the windows and doors, with 17 bug bombs going off meantime at the ranch.


79 posted on 07/04/2004 9:51:24 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: steplock; RedBloodedAmerican
I can't identify many spiders, but I can tell you to be certain you have had attention for your brown recluse bite.

My brother had one that went untreated. The consequences were horrible. He struggled with an unhealed, large ulcer on his lower leg for about 7 1/2 years until he finally lost it below the knee.

Thanks for the ping, RBA.

80 posted on 07/04/2004 9:59:34 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: nuconvert

I think it's a black widow.

NOPE.


81 posted on 07/04/2004 10:13:32 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND THE CPB AND IT'S SPAWN: NPR, PBS & RADIO PACIFICA)
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To: nuconvert

YOW!

Is that two of the buggers? What the hell are they doing? Those things almost look like the young instar of the critter in 'Alien.' I'd splatter that cluster with my M-16 if I was there.


82 posted on 07/04/2004 10:19:06 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND THE CPB AND IT'S SPAWN: NPR, PBS & RADIO PACIFICA)
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To: nuconvert
This is a black widow....

The image “http://urbanentomology.tamu.edu/arthropods/img368.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

83 posted on 07/04/2004 10:25:27 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Eat more possum.)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; steplock
For the past three weeks we have been treating one of our older gentlemen Champion Schipperkes ... "Wolf", by common call name -- 12yo this last month. He firsr presented a great deal of swelling on the left side of his head over the side bones of the skull and jaw.

We hot packed the area and within two days all of the skin in about a two by two area had sloughed off and there was a single penetration point in the middle of a softened blackened area of skin. We drained and drained and drained and hot packed and hot packed ... gave antihistamines, antibiotics and aspirin.

After the head seemed to have most of the swelling reduced we started applying (a carcinogenic, but very effective) ointment to the entire debriding area (now about the size of the palm of an adult hand).

The vision in the left eye is gone, but he never went off his food and was in pretty good spirits throughout.

We presume that he was bitten by a desert recluse (indigenous to the Mojave Desert) which, unlike the black widow (which does neural damage and has been the cause of death over the last 40 years in two of my female Schipperkes and a Shetland Sheepdog who was left for a long time as a boarder in our commercial Kennel, after she had been treated for a black widow bite -- she was alive when she went home, but I somehow think that she was never going to recover), this "bite" seemed to be restricted to necrotic damage and it spreads and spreads. We have gone about 5 or 6 days without further spread, but that side of his once gorgeous head is like leather (dried out leather, at that, so it cracks easily).
84 posted on 07/04/2004 10:38:04 PM PDT by AKA Elena (Catholic, through the Grace of God, Conservative to the bone)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Had a similar Army medicine experience in Germany. Had a festering sore on my calf and went to the clinic staffed by our unit medics and PA. Medic looks at it and thinks I have VD, asking if I have had sex with somebody other than my wife. Told him no and to go get the PA (I was an officer and medic was a Spec4).

PA comes in and reams the medic for a faulty diagnosis. Told me it looked like a brown recluse had hitched a ride to Germany in my belongings because they weren't native. Treated me with local antibiotics on the sore, debrided the necrotic tissue, and gave me oral antibiotics to beat back the infection. Took forever to heal...

85 posted on 07/04/2004 10:42:19 PM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: txflake

http://images.google.com/images?q=%22barn+spider%22&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

I'm no expert on spiders but I think black widows have a nerve poison and brown recluse destroys tissue. Also, widows do not always have the characteristic red hourglass. Sometimes they have red or orange splotches on them. They will still be round, fat and shiny black.


86 posted on 07/05/2004 4:38:09 AM PDT by Merdoug
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To: steplock

That's the famous Hot Springs Black Inch Spider. The dead variety rarely bites.

Glad to help.


87 posted on 07/05/2004 5:27:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ideas so stupid only intellectuals could believe them.)
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To: txflake
While we're at it, crabs are water-spiders and spiders are land-crabs. Arachnidae, the eight-leggers.

Crabs have ten legs. That itself doesn't mean they're not arachnids (although they're not; they're crustaceans), because not all arachnids have eight legs, either.

88 posted on 07/05/2004 6:00:03 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: steplock

That was Charlotte!!! Omigawd you killed Charlotte! You sick freak!


89 posted on 07/05/2004 6:26:39 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

yep, that's the black widow


90 posted on 07/05/2004 6:59:02 AM PDT by nuconvert ( "Let Freedom Reign !" ) ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: RandallFlagg
We have one cat. We like to keep him in practice with the laser pointer.

The laser pointer is an essential piece of cat training equipment! That and all the little fur-covered mice I keep tripping over.

Maven
91 posted on 07/05/2004 11:22:19 AM PDT by Maven
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To: NonValueAdded
It would be a much more nostalgic thread if you said you were holding the spider under your foot while you made the post.

Nostalgia?
92 posted on 07/05/2004 2:21:11 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Save a horse....ride a cowboy!)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29

Sorry for the flashback, Sweet.


93 posted on 07/05/2004 2:37:03 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: steplock

You DO NOT need to move. Why would you move, when one bite of your wife kills spiders dead?

I think it's a wolf spider, but you need to confirm. The size is right. They are a little hairy and awful to look at.

PS: Every spider in Tennessee is brown and has a back that looks like a musical instrument.


94 posted on 07/05/2004 2:41:12 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: steplock

Actually I don't know about moving. Until you get the recluse problem under control, you might seriously consider it. I've heard of people who have moved because of recluses and left most of their furniture to be rid of the pests.


95 posted on 07/05/2004 2:46:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NonValueAdded
It would be a much more nostalgic thread if you said you were holding the spider under your foot while you made the post.

I remember one about a snake. A freeper was stepping on it under her computer and looking for help identifying it, she didn't want to get up. LOL. Boy that's been awhile ago.

96 posted on 07/06/2004 12:32:44 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Sweet_Sunflower29

LOL. That's the one. It was you! What a night that was. Thanks for the link.


97 posted on 07/06/2004 12:33:58 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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