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Intelligence backs claim Iraq tried to buy uranium
NY Times ^ | June 27, 2004 | Mark Huband

Posted on 07/04/2004 8:58:26 PM PDT by neverdem

Illicit sales of uranium from Niger were being negotiated with five states including Iraq at least three years before the US-led invasion, senior European intelligence officials have told the Financial Times.

Intelligence officers learned between 1999 and 2001 that uranium smugglers planned to sell illicitly mined Nigerien uranium ore, or refined ore called yellow cake, to Iran, Libya, China, North Korea and Iraq.

These claims support the assertion made in the British government dossier on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programme in September 2002 that Iraq had sought to buy uranium from an African country, confirmed later as Niger. George W. Bush, US president, referred to the issue in his State of the Union address in January 2003.

The claim that the illicit export of uranium was under discussion was widely dismissed when letters referring to the sales - apparently sent by a Nigerien official to a senior official in Saddam Hussein's regime - were proved by the International Atomic Energy Agency to be forgeries. This embarrassed the US and led the administration to reverse its earlier claim.

But European intelligence officials have for the first time confirmed that information provided by human intelligence sources during an operation mounted in Europe and Africa produced sufficient evidence for them to believe that Niger was the centre of a clandestine international trade in uranium.

Officials said the fake documents, which emerged in October 2002 and have been traced to an Italian with a record for extortion and deception, added little to the picture gathered from human intelligence and were only given weight by the Bush administration.

According to a senior counter-proliferation official, meetings between Niger officials and would-be buyers from the five countries were held in several European countries, including Italy. Intelligence officers were convinced that the uranium would be smuggled from abandoned mines in Niger, thereby circumventing official export controls. "The sources were trustworthy. There were several sources, and they were reliable sources," an official involved in the European intelligence gathering operation said.

The UK government used the details in its Iraq weapons dossier, which it used to justify war with Iraq after concluding that it corresponded with other information it possessed, including evidence gathered by GCHQ, the UK eavesdropping centre, of a visit to Niger by an Iraqi official.

However, the European investigation suggested that it was the smugglers who were actively looking for markets, though it was unclear how far the deals had progressed and whether deliveries of uranium were made.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 16words; africa; businesssection; iraq; mediabias; niger; nigerflap; prewarintelligence; uranium; wilsonlied; yellowcake
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To: j-pizzo
I believe yellowcake is a regulated market commodity. However, Iraq was banned to not to receive anything but dirt due to UN sanctions. I'll look into any US smackdown of Niger over the next couple of days...
21 posted on 07/04/2004 9:57:01 PM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

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22 posted on 07/04/2004 9:57:36 PM PDT by idkfa
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To: neverdem
Joseph Wilson, call your publicist.
23 posted on 07/04/2004 10:00:47 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: neverdem

And didn't Wilson and his 'outed' spy wife just appear on a tv show, this past week, trashing Bush for 'faulty intelligence' on this very issue? It's a well managed smear campaign and I wish Bush would take off the gloves NOW!


24 posted on 07/04/2004 10:15:51 PM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: neverdem

thanks for this important post. it looks like bush and the cia will eventually be vindicated by history.
truly amazing how the NYT buried this!


25 posted on 07/04/2004 10:20:45 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Az. Mike
Officials said the fake documents, which emerged in October 2002 and have been traced to an Italian with a record for extortion and deception, added little to the picture gathered from human intelligence and were only given weight by the Bush administration.

i thought it was Wilson who gave it weight by saying it proved all claims were not true

26 posted on 07/04/2004 10:26:40 PM PDT by woofie ( Ya gotta know who ya is and who ya aint ...cause if ya dont know who ya aint ,ya aint who ya is.)
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To: endthematrix
Well officially I guess it wouldn't be Niger per se but the smugglers from Niger.

Still would like some controls on those abandoned mines!

27 posted on 07/04/2004 10:28:55 PM PDT by freethinkingman
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To: freethinkingman
Saddam already had a stash of yellowcake and was hurriedly pursuing various ways to process it. Also, other reports of yellowcake suppliers were on the list too. Somalia and another I can't remember...
28 posted on 07/04/2004 10:38:11 PM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: neverdem

They should do both. Explain how important it is, and embarrass the SLIMES.


29 posted on 07/04/2004 10:41:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Searching For Truth
After 9/11 the Dems were crying about Bush not being able to connect the dots,
now it appears they don't know what a dot looks like.


I guess the Dems are afraid that Dubya might actually be able to connect the dots,
so they had their unindicted co-conspirators at the NY Times hid some in the business section.
30 posted on 07/04/2004 10:46:57 PM PDT by VOA
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To: neverdem

And you were surprised? Hell no one is EVER going to admit that Bush was right because then Kerry is toast...Hopefully it will be trumpeted but who knows at this point?


31 posted on 07/04/2004 11:26:18 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: neverdem
Officials said the fake documents... added little to the picture gathered from human intelligence and were only given weight by the Bush administration.

In other words, Bush was an idiot for believing the intelligence, but the intelligence was true.

Since Niger is a center for illicit uranium smuggling, does it not occur to anyone that smugglers might use fake documents?

What this article says is that, during the long months that Bush was taking it on the chin for his (true) charge of Iraqi interest in uranium, the Euro agencies that knew his charges to be true remained silent. The joke is that Iraq's interest in uranium wasn't even secret, and was not dependent on classified sources; Iraq's trade mission to Niger was public knowledge.

It is the active existence of Nigerienne smuggling rings that was not public knowledge, but whose existence was well known among the agencies who were paid to know such things.

Everyone it seems, except the CIA, who seemed to have needed the services of a self-aggrandizing liar, who managed to spend a week in the country without finding what everyone else seems to have already known. Illicit uranium mines were open for business.

32 posted on 07/05/2004 12:12:55 AM PDT by marron
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To: speedy
Am I misunderstanding something here? Isn't this a really big story? I mean, like screaming headline big?

Yes it is, but the NY Times is damn well NOT gonna admit that President Bush was right, after all!

33 posted on 07/05/2004 12:17:03 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004/Because we MUST!!)
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; farmfriend; ...

From time to time, I’ll post or ping on noteworthy articles about politics and foreign and military affairs. Let me know if you want off my list. This is a combined list.

If you read comment# 1, you'll understand why I posted this story that's more than a week old. With all the comments it generated, it seems there are plenty of folks who never heard or read about it. It was posted twice before generating more than 100 comments being sourced each time from the Financial Times, not the NY Times. The story had the same title and author every time.


34 posted on 07/05/2004 1:51:20 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

"Officials said the fake documents, which emerged in October 2002 and have been traced to an Italian with a record for extortion and deception, added little to the picture gathered from human intelligence and were only given weight by the Bush administration."

As I recall President Bush attributed the information about Iraq's efforts to obtain yellowcake from Nigeria to UK intelligence in his SOTU address - he didn't mention anything about a document. Why is this misinformation still continuing. The media has said it so many times that now it has become defacto truth among the libs/dems. Are they that intellectually dishonest or just that stupid?


35 posted on 07/05/2004 2:27:19 AM PDT by Avenger
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To: Avenger
Are they that intellectually dishonest or just that stupid?

6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other, possibly both.

36 posted on 07/05/2004 2:29:56 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

bookmarking


37 posted on 07/05/2004 2:40:59 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: neverdem

Another angle to this story is the utter deception of the Europeans during the run-up to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Messr's Schröder and Chirac knew damn well that the charges against Iraq we well founded, but they chose to claim otherwise before the UN Security Council (and the world), and, as has been reported over the last several weeks, this obstuctionism allowed Saddam sufficient time to move his WMDs to Syria and other points unknown.

Axis of Weasel does not even BEGIN to describe the despicable acts of these so called allies.


38 posted on 07/05/2004 2:50:35 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks !


39 posted on 07/05/2004 4:28:04 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: Shermy

In the event you have not seen this.

NYTimes slips in a "Joe Wilson" retraction. "Business section".


I know it's about a week old. The reason I'm posting it is because I just discovered that the Times chose to bury it in its business section. Check the URL:
http://www.nytimes.com/financialtimes/business/FT1087373295002.html


1 posted on 07/04/2004 8:58:26 PM PDT by neverdem


40 posted on 07/05/2004 4:37:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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