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The Secret Lives of Wives [Newsweek celebrates adultery by liberated women.]
Newsweek via MSNBC ^ | 05JUL04 | Lorraine Ali and Lisa Miller

Posted on 07/06/2004 4:00:03 AM PDT by familyop

July 12 issue - When groups of women get together, especially if they're mothers and have been married for more than six or seven years, and especially if there's alcohol involved, the conversation is usually the same. They talk about the kids and work—how stressed they are, how busy and bone tired. They gripe about their husbands and, if they're being perfectly honest and the wine kicks in, they talk about the disappointments in their marriages. Not long ago, over lunch in Los Angeles, this conversation took a surprising turn, when Erin, who is in her early 40s and has been married for more than a decade, spilled it. She was seeing someone else. Actually, more than one person. It started with an old friend, whom she began meeting every several months for long dinners and some heavy petting. Then she began giving herself permission to flirt with, kiss—well, actually, make out with—men she met on business trips. She understands it's a "Clintonian" distinction, but she won't have sex with anyone except her husband, whom she loves. But she also loves the unexpected thrill of meeting someone new. "Do you remember?" She pauses. "I don't know how long you've been married, but do you remember the kiss that would just launch a thousand kisses?"

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Newsweek celebrates the liberation of women from the oppression men once put them through. [Sarcasm and irony directed at both male and female feminist/romanticist idiots. The "oppression" myth is a revisionist myth.]

There's much more about it behind the link to the news page--several more pages about it. ...really evil stuff but so much a part of what most in our nation not only legalized a long time ago, but seem to want.

1 posted on 07/06/2004 4:00:05 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop
Don't fret :) This story says more about Newsweek readers than it does the nation.
2 posted on 07/06/2004 4:01:50 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: familyop

I have seen this often over the years. I think it has to do more with selfishness than anything else. I've seen marriages collapse when spouses are confronted by the sheer mediocrity of life decade after decade, when problems arise, when the future simply doesn't match youthful expectations.

The concept of marriage as a joining, or oneness has suffered as both seek a singular path rather than being partners and helping each other grow. Material pursuits often take precedence over the family or the individual. I realize that houses are obscenely expensive and cars cost as much as my first home, but there has to be a limit on grasping for things rather than providing for family.
Newly marrieds often want things now that have taken decades for us to acquire over time.

There are limits in life. There is the progression of time and the unveiling of character over decades. Impatience and selfishness have to be overcome in order to create a lasting marriage.

I don't see that happening in the future. Each generation seems to be more obsessed with self-fulfillment rather than working to overcome difficulties that inevitably arise when two people marry.


3 posted on 07/06/2004 4:20:53 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I only see movies for the popcorn. I'd rather read the book.)
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To: OpusatFR

That's a good analysis.

And on feminism, my intent is not to aim criticism only at women or at all women. Men have been involved in feminism from the beginning of it--Henry Beecher, Moses Hull and others (preachers who rationalized adultery and called it "love"). Many feminists even credit Charles Fourier as being their Founder. It was all a part of romanticism.


4 posted on 07/06/2004 4:26:25 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
Actually, more than one person. It started with an old friend, whom she began meeting every several months for long dinners and some heavy petting. Then she began giving herself permission to flirt with, kiss—well, actually, make out with—men she met on business trips. She understands it's a "Clintonian" distinction, but she won't have sex with anyone except her husband, whom she loves.

Okay. She is stealing from him, she is Cheating on him and she is abusing him. But she claims to "love" him.

If that is love I don't want to know what she calls hate. Humans can be a sick bunch.

5 posted on 07/06/2004 4:33:14 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

again, the attempt of the press to define deviancy down. I do note and have for years that when a group of women get together, especially young ones, they all bash husbands. I decided loong ago it was a strange way of warniing other women away. Like, my hubby is so bad you couldn't possibly be interested in him. And I think some women bond by being victims together, to sort of defuse the envy thing. Nothing keeps a woman from envying you quite like complaining you are fat, have bad hair and your husband is a drudge. And envy between women and among women can be poisonous. That said, I advise my daughters to keep away from women who whine, complain and bash their husbands and kids,,they are a major downer. And avoid women who cheat. But I doubt cheating is that common among young women with kids,,,heck, they don't have time or libido. I thinnk this article is a lie.


6 posted on 07/06/2004 4:42:03 AM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: OpusatFR
great post! thanks.
7 posted on 07/06/2004 4:47:38 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: familyop

I can't understand why there is no mention about the effects on children when there is infidelity within a marriage. That is ridiculous.


8 posted on 07/06/2004 4:47:50 AM PDT by mgist
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To: cajungirl
But I doubt cheating is that common among young women with kids,,,heck, they don't have time or libido. I thinnk this article is a lie.

lol, probably true. I don't think the article is a lie--I think this chick doesn't do anything, ie marriage, kids, work, etc, --good.

9 posted on 07/06/2004 4:53:00 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: cajungirl
Thanks for your take on this article. I tend to agree with your analysis about women complaining about their husbands as a way of warning other women off. Good for bonding, too.

I am currently on the dating sidelines and this article "confirms" some of my darker suspicions about women and fuels my distrust. I know men are dogs, but I used to believe women lived to a higher standard.

I've since met women who turned out to be the exceptions to that belief. Now Newsweek's article seems to say that what I thought was the exception has now become the norm.

10 posted on 07/06/2004 4:53:14 AM PDT by GBA
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To: familyop
she won't have sex with anyone except her husband, whom she loves.

Somehow I don't see her husband agreeing with her definition of love ... or "sex" for that matter.

11 posted on 07/06/2004 5:01:38 AM PDT by angkor
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To: GBA

Pick a girl who doesn't bash ex boyfriends and whose friends don't sit around bitching. Pick a girl who has friends who are happily married. One who doesn't gossip. One who doesn't threaten to leave you all the time. One who is well grounded in life, has interests, hobbies. One who is cheerful and optimistic. One who goes to Church. From an intact family. One with sibs. One who has a sense of humor, is tolerant of your foibles and thinks they are cute and who isn't afraid to say what she thinks. You can't go wrong that way.


12 posted on 07/06/2004 5:01:38 AM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: mewzilla

I hadn't read newseek in years. This weekend I took the fiance to her stylist and was stuck there for a while. Not a 'Field and Stream' in the place. I read newsweek with a fascination...I had not known how horrendously biased it was. Everything reeked of, I don't want to say lefty partisanship, because it was deeper than that...it was the philosophical premises underlying socialism/communism/leftism/liberalism. Every sentence. I hadn't known how bad it was, as I abandoned it long before.


13 posted on 07/06/2004 5:02:26 AM PDT by blanknoone (The WOT can only be won abroad, and can only be lost at home.)
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To: blanknoone

The only place I see the rag any more is in doctors' offices. No wonder hypertension is on the rise.


14 posted on 07/06/2004 5:03:46 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: GBA

Maybe newsweek wants you to start out in marriage accepting cheating. Maybe the mag wants you to just turn off women totally. Maybe newsweek wants young women to get on the cheatiing bandwagon thus multiplying societal ills thus increasing readership. Maybe newsweek is totally corrupt. Women aren't. Newsweek is.


15 posted on 07/06/2004 5:04:07 AM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: OpusatFR

Well said!


16 posted on 07/06/2004 5:05:59 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: blanknoone

You are so right. I note the title of the article refers to a popular book, The Secret Life of Bees, a bestseller. I read it. It is a treatise on the evil of men, the main character worships a female God, the underlying message of the book is feminist, lesbian and profoundly anti male. Not surprising Newsweek used that come on as the book is loved by women who don't understand what kind of crap they are reading.


17 posted on 07/06/2004 5:06:32 AM PDT by cajungirl (<i>swing low, sweet limousine, comin' fer to Kerry me hoooommmee</i>)
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To: familyop

"I had an affair before remembering it wasn't an affair."


18 posted on 07/06/2004 5:07:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: cajungirl


Go to small-town or rural America and you might have a better chance of finding someone with your values. The hordes of women who watched "Sex in the City" with envy are not the soulmates of decent men.


19 posted on 07/06/2004 5:08:35 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: cajungirl
Pick a girl who doesn't bash ex boyfriends and whose friends don't sit around bitching. Pick a girl who has friends who are happily married. One who doesn't gossip. One who doesn't threaten to leave you all the time. One who is well grounded in life, has interests, hobbies. One who is cheerful and optimistic. One who goes to Church. From an intact family. One with sibs. One who has a sense of humor, is tolerant of your foibles and thinks they are cute and who isn't afraid to say what she thinks. You can't go wrong that way.

I didn't know you knew my wife! And, yes, I know how incredibly lucky I am.

21 posted on 07/06/2004 5:13:25 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: GBA
've since met women who turned out to be the exceptions to that belief. Now Newsweek's article seems to say that what I thought was the exception has now become the norm.

Be of good faith; the article is actually covering a "social virus" among some females. I agree with CajunGirl's assessment of "the why" behind the wifey Monthy-Python scripting. The vast majority of women, in 20s, 30s, and 40s however, do hold themselves to higher standards than the females in this article. IME, of course. The woman in this article is "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" and because she can't handle the mediocrities of life; which pass. Most women, particularly mothers, are glad when times are slow and routine, IME!! lol

23 posted on 07/06/2004 5:20:02 AM PDT by Alia
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To: familyop

The writers of this article didn't make their anti-male bias too obvious did they? (ha,ha) Yes, all recently married women with children lead horrible lives thanks to their awful husbands who treat them like dirt. So naturally it's only understandable that they cheat on their husbands because their filthy, women-hating, oppressive mates treat them in a terrible way. That's what these obviously NOW-loving scribblers really wanted to say.


24 posted on 07/06/2004 5:22:04 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: familyop
I am a single woman and most of my female friends are also. It is interesting to see that many of them are involved with married men. They tend to feel there is something wrong with me that I will not do likewise. My reply to this is that most own sense of self respect will not allow me to be involved with a man who is committed to another. I tell them they are on a no win path which they usually don't see until it becomes real to them. There is nothing like spending all your holidays alone or having a partner who you can not turn to in times of trouble because his wife might find out.

This guys all say the same thing "My wife is cold" or "My wife does not understand me" or "My wife will take the house if I get divorced" or "We are together for the kids" or "My wife and I have not has sex in 15 years" The list is endlessly repetitive. I look at it from the point of view that if your wife is bearing your children, cleaning your house, cooking your meals, and usually working a job and putting out when your in the mood what more do you want. Don't these women deserve some respect simply for the amount of work they do?

My friends cannot see this because they buy these guys stories.They feel I am something of a loser because I'd rather be alone than be someone's piece on the side. It's a pity they have so little respect for themselves and are so afraid of being alone that they will give themselves to the lowest bidder. What my friends don't get is that if these men did divorce it does not mean they will come running to them. In fact usually the opposite is true.

25 posted on 07/06/2004 5:23:30 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: cajungirl
When my married sisters and I get together over a few beers, well first of all, our husbands are in the next room (not that their proximity would really curb our honesty). Our number one kvetch? Having to deal with pain in the butt contractors. We also discuss our pain in the butt neighbors, the high price of this and that, how poorly the Tigers are doing lately...we complain about everything including the kitchen sink, but never about our husbands or families. We're so boring, actually loving our spouses. Ssssnoooooore!
26 posted on 07/06/2004 5:31:37 AM PDT by grellis (All the iron turns to rust, all the proud men turn to dust)
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To: familyop
Dear Family Op; it's a good article you posted, and thanks. Over a period of 3 years, I observed two once close "girl friends" go exactly the path described in the article. Firsthand insight here; these women had nothing substantive to complain about - No money worries; hubbies fixed everything, hubbies were devoted to the children. Took vacations regularly; drove new if not excellent cars. I guess they thought it was a "lifestyle" (seeing other men) they could maintain. It devastated both sets of children, ultimately. One thing; both women were fun women. Meaning, they lived for the good times. Neither women had much of a deeper inner sense of direction or perspective; outside of shopping; and looking "good" when stacked against the Jones's. Even on a court stand, one woman openly admitted to her adultery; (which is why hubby was seeking to dissolve the marriage); still, the courts nearly granted the offending parent (the female) full custody of the children.

And never forget: It' "just sex". Clinton legacy and repercussions yet continue.

27 posted on 07/06/2004 5:32:04 AM PDT by Alia
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To: cajungirl
Maybe newsweek is totally corrupt. Women aren't. Newsweek is.

Hear here!

28 posted on 07/06/2004 5:32:45 AM PDT by grellis (All the iron turns to rust, all the proud men turn to dust)
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To: foolscap
are so afraid of being alone that they will give themselves to the lowest bidder.

Perfectly right on target. What you've said is what I mean in another post by these women having "no inner life" and "self-direction". They don't know what to do with themselves; they can't handle being "alone" with no passion-driven directives. Years ago, the women I described in my post -- I tried to get them involved in politics; education, candidates, issues. Worked for a while; but when they realized there were actual risks and actual work involved -- VOOP! They were gone. But in re affairs? They can usually blame someone else, easily, for their behaviors.

29 posted on 07/06/2004 5:37:38 AM PDT by Alia
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To: familyop
Veronica, now 35, took up with a wealthy businessman she met at a Dallas nightclub. Her lover gave her everything her husband didn't: compliments, Tiffany jewelry, flowers and love notes. It was, in fact, the flowers that did her in.

Isn't that a sad commentary. Romantic gestures are nice but over all they are meaningless. I have never been very impressed with the hearts and flowers routine. I'd vastly prefer someone who was a good friend who I could actually talk to. The sort of junk she is falling for does not last but she is throwing away her husband and children for an illusion. People seem to think that happiness in relationships should be handed to them on a silver platter with no effort on their part. These women are chasing after a myth that does not exist. If they actually married these guys they would find that after a time life again would become boring again. That's just the way it is. It is once you get past all the romantic dreams that one can actually get down to the real business of learning to love.

30 posted on 07/06/2004 5:41:24 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: foolscap

Would I be correct in assuming that God is not in these peoples' lives at this moment?


31 posted on 07/06/2004 5:45:07 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Reject Materialism)
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To: familyop
Then she began giving herself permission to flirt with, kiss—well, actually, make out with—men she met on business trips. She understands it's a "Clintonian" distinction, but she won't have sex with anyone except her husband, whom she loves.

Let me start off by saying that I do not condone rape or date rape, but "Erin" is playing with fire because some men don't understand her little "Clintonian" distinction, and aren't going to stop at heavy petting (people such as Clinton, himself, who is known to have forced himself on Juanita Broaderick and possibly others).

32 posted on 07/06/2004 5:53:13 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (God blessed America when He gave us Ronald Reagan!)
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To: mgist
I can't understand why there is no mention about the effects on children when there is infidelity within a marriage. That is ridiculous.

That's next week's article: "Children are Better off in Gay Marriages/Gays more stable, less likely to cheat"! Look for it at your local newstand...

33 posted on 07/06/2004 5:55:20 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (God blessed America when He gave us Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Alia
Years ago, the women I described in my post -- I tried to get them involved in politics; education, candidates, issues. Worked for a while; but when they realized there were actual risks and actual work involved -- VOOP! They were gone.

I've seen a lot of that too. It's very baffling Maybe it comes from the thing that many women just can't think logically. They see themselves as emotive beings and are just run around in circles by their own emotional ups and downs. This is not totally their fault. I have noticed that many men do not like women who can think either. They will complain about their moods etc. but if a gal can out think them many have no idea what to do with that. They often see it as competition. From my experience intelligent women have a big mark against them overall on the dating market. Thankfully not all men are like that but from my experience I have found that the majority are. I seem to have a basic inability to make cow eyes at a man who has no interest outside what was on tv or has political or religious beliefs that are not thought through but simply handed to them. I don't really care if I meet a man who's ideas are different from mine as long as they have some indication that they are actively using their frontal lobe. Finding men like that is very difficult.

34 posted on 07/06/2004 6:01:29 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: Sam's Army

These are church going people and look wonderful from the outside. Much more of this goes on the churches than one would think. Of course going to church and having a real spiritual understanding have little in common. I do not attend church and oddly enough these same women are the ones on my case for not doing so. Go figure.


35 posted on 07/06/2004 6:06:13 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: familyop

I love how Clinton's name is sprinkled all over that story. What a legacy that man left . . .


36 posted on 07/06/2004 6:18:02 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: foolscap

Your friends are going to get burned mucho bundo. God hates this and is starting to dish it out on people that do this. I have been witness to this. People lose jobs,families, and the relationship that causes this fails miserably too. Statistics point out a 97% failure rate. Your friends should learn that the patience of God is not to be mistaken for lieniency. He is only giving them time to repent before He disciplines them. Keep up the good work you have your head on straight and will be rewarded.


37 posted on 07/06/2004 6:19:08 AM PDT by DarthVader (John Kerry is really Janet Reno dressed up as a man.)
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To: kittymyrib

Right on. I married a woman whose family were Pennsylvania farmers; simple wholesome values, reasonable expectations, partnership and family oriented, and a more loving spouse you could not find. She gets ALL my love, respect, obedience and devotion.

Incidently, to respond another posting here.....I am not a dog. I know who I am. I could never entertain the notion of firtatiousness or sex with another woman. That part of me belongs to only one person, i.e. my wife...(married 14 years.)


38 posted on 07/06/2004 6:21:21 AM PDT by Banjoguy
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To: mgist

Why can't you understand it? These are liberals. Where is the mention of the child when the violins play and the rationale is, "I'm too young to have a child", or "I have my whole life ahead of me", or "It's not fair that he moves on and I have the entire responsibility of raising a child" as justification for murder?

The smartest liberal loses in debate to the slowest conservative. Logic is to liberals as water to the Wicked Witch of the West.


39 posted on 07/06/2004 6:21:40 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want)
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To: TonyRo76; familyop
Mrs. Tilden bump!!

Wasn't Moses Hull mixed up with the Claflin sisters (Tennie C. and Victoria Claflin Woodhull) somehow?

40 posted on 07/06/2004 6:24:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: GBA

Don't believe that. This is a desperate company trying to sell magazines. If you've had any experience in getting articles published, you'll know that sells is the fringe.

This issue is going to sell because most women aren't like this. As a result of the article, more women will be.

This is the press taking another blow at the fabric of society, that's all.


41 posted on 07/06/2004 6:25:11 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want)
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To: OpusatFR

One thing I have noticed is that the selfishness is not always with the newly married couple. Often, parents/in-laws are equally materialistic and pressure the groom to provide more than his job/pay will allow. And then the bride's mom makes the bride feel as if her husband is not good enough for her. I've seen this occur in multiple families.


42 posted on 07/06/2004 6:25:56 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: foolscap

The thing your female friends are not seeing is that if these married men would cheat on their wives, they'd cheat on them also. No matter how much the men try to put it on their wives, they're exhibiting a lack of character that won't go away when wifey does.


43 posted on 07/06/2004 6:27:28 AM PDT by jimt
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To: foolscap
I look at it from the point of view that if your wife is bearing your children, cleaning your house, cooking your meals, and usually working a job and putting out when your in the mood what more do you want.

Sex. More sex. "When you're in the mood" winds up being about once every six months for most women, and that will absolutely destroy a marriage.

The woman who hooked up with the businessman for the romantic gestures doesn't realize the fundamental fact that any man will be affectionate if she is passionate. Women who push their husbands away night after night and then expect flowers and cards are just flat out delusional. You can only reap what you have sown.

44 posted on 07/06/2004 6:29:52 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: foolscap

I see what you are saying completely. I don't know where these friends go to church but you sound like someone who would like a solid serious church that teaches, of all things, the Bible! Don't look for a church that emphasizes the trappings of worship or entertainment. In other words, you might enjoy church, just not the ones your friends enjoy. God bless.


45 posted on 07/06/2004 6:30:21 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: cajungirl

Both were taken.


46 posted on 07/06/2004 6:30:23 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: hopespringseternal

You have a good point there. I don't understand how wives think that this behavior is ok. On the other hand lack of libido in women is more often than not tied to problems in the relationship. Spending time talking and enjoying each others company outside the sack can go a long way toward solving that problem. I have noticed that marriages that fall into this pattern often have a lot of unspoken resentment between the partners. This really tends to make women not want to have sex with their husbands. I am not blaming men particularly but it is a fact about female sexuality that is often overlooked.


47 posted on 07/06/2004 6:41:25 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: foolscap
Foolscap; enjoyed your post. In re the women I've described. I've had years to bat this one around; I have come to see that the reasons these women don't think; is because they don't have to think. Someone always takes care of them. It's "not their job" to run their own lives, except as they wish it; as in "the world owes them a living".

I have noticed that many men do not like women who can think either.Many men compete with other men who can think. lol. Men who don't like women who can think, IME, don't like men who can think, either.

What astounds me; is the women who do the cow-eyes thing (manipulations), and then complains that she's not always getting her way! lol. And bashes the male -- screaming Husband Oppression! lol

On the left coast here, most hetero males are in hiding from thinking and nonthinking femmes, alike. Relations between the sexes are way messed up in many parts of the country.

P.S. I have always lacked the DNA (thing) to make cow-eyes, or do the manipulation-in-relationship thing too. I like things upfront and on the table. If the guy gets upset because I've outthought him in an area, I always figure it's his problem he's upset.

In other parts of the country, I bet you'd find some fine men who'd appreciate your values and logic.

48 posted on 07/06/2004 6:44:38 AM PDT by Alia
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To: eno_

I got one of them. And I'll keep her.


49 posted on 07/06/2004 6:47:40 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: mewzilla; oldglory; MinuteGal; JulieRNR21; Luke FReeman; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather
"Don't fret :) This story says more about Newsweek readers than it does the nation."

BINGO!

And of course the mentalities that Newsweek plays to, also pay attention to so-called psychologists (and typical DemocRAT mentalities) like David Livingstone Smith that are just as screwed up as they are.

In his new book, "Why We Lie -- The Evolutionary Roots of Deception and the Unconscious Mind", he gives people permission to cheat in their marriages because it's perfectly NORMAL for human beings to do that and then to lie to their spouses about it. It's not their fault - they're "just human".

Yes friends -- the way this guy is able to assuage his own guilt feelings / conscience and 'help' others to do the same (for all sorts of things they think and do that they KNOW are wrong), is to say that our minds are based in biology.

Therefore anyone that claims to know that lying and cheating is wrong, and feels guilty when he does it, is mentally ill and needs his help.

Quoting Smith, himself (from my videotape of his appearance on Fox yesterday promoting his book):

"We are BIOLOGICALLY WIRED TO LIE. The human mind is a deceptive mind and WE'RE BUILT to lie."

What a way to drum up business from the guilt-ridden, self-hating victim mentalities looking for excuses.

He is confident that the relativistic, shallow mentalities who will rush out to buy his book will never think of this:

Even though he is 'built to lie', and people should expect lies from him because he can't help it, Smith assures them he is telling the truth this time (in his book).

But wait!!! He also says that "the very best liars actually believe their own lies"!!! Hahahahaha

Ignorance is curable with education --- emotional immmaturity is cured by 'growing up' --- but STUUUUPID is forever.

50 posted on 07/06/2004 6:52:37 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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