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Mr. Kerry takes a running mate
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 7/8/04 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 07/06/2004 7:31:49 AM PDT by Mike Bates

John Kerry’s selection of North Carolina Senator John Edwards surprised me. Maybe it’s time to take a refresher course in political punditry.

There were some candidates I was pretty certain Mr. Kerry would not choose. Senator Bob Graham of Florida, replete with his meticulously maintained notebooks about what he wore, ate and talked about every day, is just a little too strange.

Iowa’s Governor Tom Vilsack was clearly out because until about a month ago no one other than his Mom knew who he was.

I was sure Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be picked. John Kerry doesn’t want to spend the next four years being overshadowed by the heiress apparent. Or watching his back.

Missouri Congressman Richard Gephardt would have brought a lot of experience with him as well as some enthusiastic support from labor unions. Mr. Kerry rightly reckoned that Big Labor will, as usual, back the Democratic ticket no matter who’s on it.

So Mr. Kerry selected one of his Democratic opponents, a man who had enough prescience to not criticize Kerry too harshly during the primaries. Edwards brings strengths, including geographic balance, but has some obvious weak points.

Edwards is telegenic, a highly prized attribute in this age of sound bites and photo ops. He was named People Magazine’s "sexiest politician" a few years ago.

It’s tempting to scoff at such things, but they can play a major role in who wins elections. American voters don’t generally read party platforms, position papers and policy statements. They do watch the news on TV and scan the front pages of newspapers. They make judgments based on what they see.

In choosing Edwards, John Kerry showed some unexpected daring. The Massachusetts senator is slightly less charismatic than Walter Mondale was twenty years ago. He often looks as though he’s in pain, perhaps with a severe migraine. Maybe it’s all those nuances he’s carrying on his shoulders.

Adding someone to the ticket who’ll clearly outshine him isn’t what I would have expected from the cautious Kerry.

John Edwards will also bring to the table money. Plenty of it. His personal assets are as much as $36 million. For a guy not married to Teresa Heinz Kerry, that’s a lot of money.

Senator Edwards has attracted millions of dollars in political contributions from trial lawyer interests. And he’s not shy about admitting it. Last year an Edwards’ spokeswoman noted: "We have no problem if 100 percent of our money came from trial lawyers."

Undoubtedly, the North Carolinian will trot out his "Two Americas" speech for the campaign. Honed throughout the primaries, the thrust of that stump talk is that we have two countries, one for the rich and another for everyone else.

He cites a figure from the Census Bureau that there are 35 million Americans living in poverty. What he doesn’t mention is that the poor in our country often live better than middle-class citizens in many other nations.

Edwards’ speech is pure Class Struggle 101. It’s misleading. But it’s red meat for the party faithful and will be used to good advantage for the next five months.

On other issues, from abortion to taxation, Edwards has proven himself dependably liberal. He votes with Teddy Kennedy about 90 percent of the time.

It’ll be interesting to see how John Kerry contends with his running mate’s woeful lack of experience. His only political credential is having been elected to the Senate. Once. His record there can charitably be described as undistinguished.

During the primaries, Kerry attacked Edwards on this very point. He asserted that now "is not the time for on-the-job training in the White House on national security issues."

Then there’s always the possibility that some skeletons will emerge from Edwards’ closet. He’s not been subjected to the scrutiny that he will be from now on. I have no knowledge of any scandal lurking in the background, but he is a Democrat so anything is possible.

Perhaps I shouldn’t have been surprised at the Edwards pick. Kerry’s first selection for running mate, John McCain, turned him down and that didn’t leave much from which to choose. Who could Kerry have turned to, Howlin’ Howard Dean?


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: clinton; edwards; gephardt; kerry; vilsack
Will the Breck Boy make a difference?
1 posted on 07/06/2004 7:31:49 AM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

Ho-Hum in kerry-dum, the liar takes a wife......


2 posted on 07/06/2004 7:38:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy....The Marines make the world safe for the Army...)
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To: Mike Bates

He does bring a pretty face to the campaign but there's nothing that differentiates him from John F*ckin'. Unlike in 1960, this is one southern Democrat who isn't a conservative. So Kerry doesn't bring ideological as well as geographical balance to the presidential ticket. That wing of the Democratic party is history. Consider some history. Fellow Massachusettan Michael Dukakis' pick of Texan Lloyd Bentsen in 1988 didn't help him carry Texas. There's no chance a Southern liberal like John Edwards can succeed where a conservative Texas Democrat like Bentsen failed.


3 posted on 07/06/2004 7:38:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Red Badger

This one, although very rich, isn't as saucy as Te- rez-a. I don't think.


4 posted on 07/06/2004 7:45:33 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Red Badger

The RAT takes a cheesy grin...


5 posted on 07/06/2004 7:46:52 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Botox/Breck '04 - "better" governring thru chemicals...)
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To: goldstategop
He does bring a pretty face to the campaign. . .

A pretty face can't be discounted, unfortunately. Sometimes I think Steve Forbes could have done quite a lot better in politics if he were a tad prettier.

6 posted on 07/06/2004 7:47:14 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: goldstategop
I think we're making a mistake saying Edwards is anything in particular, liberal or conservative - he is a huckster, a cheap populist, and thoroughly vapid.

It would be the height of irresponsibility to place him a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Regards, Ivan

7 posted on 07/06/2004 7:48:03 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
The RAT takes a cheesy grin...

Did you say RAT?

8 posted on 07/06/2004 7:48:18 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

It ain't easy bein' sleazy......


9 posted on 07/06/2004 7:48:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy....The Marines make the world safe for the Army...)
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To: Mike Bates

NO difference at all. Kerry is a dangerous snob. He will do as he has said leading this nation into a cesspool:

"I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."


10 posted on 07/06/2004 7:50:32 AM PDT by eleni121 (Mt. Rushmore welcomes the Gipper!)
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To: Mike Bates

Even most of the moronic lib's hate TRIAL LAWYERS because they know who is responsible that they pay $5.00 a pack for cigarettes.


11 posted on 07/06/2004 7:51:48 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: goldstategop

If I were an uninformed bleached blonde brain dead card carrying Democrat or just uninformed bleached blonde brain dead person who has complete faith in anything the media tells me, I would vote for John Edwards and his running mate, that really ugly guy. He is the easiest on the eyes. Now if that Jeb guy were running against JE, that'd be a different story.

The point is don't under estimate the sheeple's stupidity levels.


12 posted on 07/06/2004 7:52:22 AM PDT by Jaded (Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain)
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To: MadIvan
. . .he is a huckster, a cheap populist, and thoroughly vapid.

What's the use of going to law school if you can't benefit from the training? :)

13 posted on 07/06/2004 7:52:55 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Uncle George
Even most of the moronic lib's. . .

Getting redundant here, aren't we?

14 posted on 07/06/2004 7:54:00 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates
What's the use of going to law school if you can't benefit from the training? :)

Quite. :) But that training does not necessarily suit one for the Vice Presidency. On the contrary. I would rather a circus clown than a trial lawyer became Vice President - at least it would liven up most State funerals.

Regards, Ivan

15 posted on 07/06/2004 7:54:35 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: eleni121
"I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."

Now that is dangerous.

16 posted on 07/06/2004 7:55:16 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Edwards will help more a lot down the ticket than other VP picks would do. Bowles will pick up some momentum...so will Carson. Several southern states that weren't too problematic now may fall out the Republican safe column and into tossups. Arkansas, LA, FL come to mind. Edwards appeals to the soccer mom types. Money will flow in from the trial lawyers...but will be countered by AMA, ADA, etc. This was a bit of a risky approach as he reminds me of Quayle...pretty, but not a lot of experience. We will see how this pans out.


17 posted on 07/06/2004 8:01:04 AM PDT by Abram
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To: Mike Bates

Everything you didn't like about John Edwards before (trial lawyer going into elective politics, pretty-boy Southern charm boy, stealth "third-way" strategist, intellectual lightweight, sometime metrosexual, no military service, faux "good old boy" air, dabbles in psychic phenomena) are still there. He would be the "Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001" redux, without the womanizer baggage.

Now I don't know if John Edwards does any of this womanizing thing, and I will not speculate. But the "Former Occupant of the Oval Ofice, 1993-2001" did an awful lot of wrongful things that had NOTHING to do with forcing females to do things that everybody knows were "just wrong", as it has been put. The worst thing the "Former Occupant of the Oval Ofice, 1993-2001" did was to shirk from giving full performance in the duties of President. Perhaps he simply did not know how. Given opportunities to rise above the situation and be a decisive statesman, he chose to duck and hide, and take the easy (and wrong) course of action, passing responsibility to anybody else that blame could be shucked off onto.

And we want another faint-hearted character like that a heartbeat from the Presidency? Considering the shaky state of John Kerry's health, Edwards could very well assume the mantle before the end of Kerry's first term.


18 posted on 07/06/2004 8:02:56 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: MadIvan

Ivan, didn't we already have a clown for VP during the Clinton administration?


19 posted on 07/06/2004 8:03:09 AM PDT by RichInOC (Kerry-Edwards 2004-The Animaniacs Ticket: "I'm Yakko, I'm Wakko..." "...I'm cute.")
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To: Mike Bates

The Mare and the Hair
Vote John Squared


20 posted on 07/06/2004 8:05:16 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: RichInOC
Ivan, didn't we already have a clown for VP during the Clinton administration?

Not quite. Clowns are supposed to be funny, not making one reach for the tranquiliser darts.

Regards, Ivan

21 posted on 07/06/2004 8:05:28 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: tractorman
Vote John Squared

John² = 0

Regards, Ivan

22 posted on 07/06/2004 8:06:16 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: MadIvan

John² = 0

I like your formula.


23 posted on 07/06/2004 8:08:21 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: tractorman
Perhaps it would be a nice bumper sticker -

John² = 0 | Vote Bush / Cheney

Regards, Ivan

24 posted on 07/06/2004 8:10:48 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: Red Badger

Evidentally idiot Kerry wasn't looking for a more balanced ticket. Good.

My daughter informs me that Edwards comes in shortly behind Kerry, as the 4th most liberally voting Senator. Probably sandwiched in between Hillary and Chappy Teddy. Ewww yuck, maybe I should rephrase that....::


25 posted on 07/06/2004 8:12:43 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: Abram

I agree the soccer moms will be swooning. Not so certain that the addition of Edwards will help that much in the South. His liberal voting record won't easily be covered up by a drawl.


26 posted on 07/06/2004 8:13:29 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: MadIvan
Huckster! No truer words, Ivan.

In 1985, a 31-year-old North Carolina lawyer named John Edwards stood before a jury and channeled the words of an unborn baby girl.

Referring to an hour-by-hour record of a fetal heartbeat monitor, Mr. Edwards told the jury: "She said at 3, `I'm fine.' She said at 4, `I'm having a little trouble, but I'm doing O.K.' Five, she said, `I'm having problems.' At 5:30, she said, `I need out.' "

But the obstetrician, he argued in an artful blend of science and passion, failed to heed the call. By waiting 90 more minutes to perform a breech delivery, rather than immediately performing a Caesarean section, Mr. Edwards said, the doctor permanently damaged the girl's brain.

"She speaks to you through me," the lawyer went on in his closing argument. "And I have to tell you right now — I didn't plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you."

The jury came back with a $6.5 million verdict in the cerebral palsy case, and Mr. Edwards established his reputation as the state's most feared plaintiff's lawyer.

Source: In Trial Work, Edwards Left a Trademark

27 posted on 07/06/2004 8:14:07 AM PDT by Quilla (God bless America, President George W. Bush, our brave troops, and Freepers everywhere.)
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To: alloysteel

Agree that the sex stuff with Klintoon diverted attention from his more serious transgressions. Edwards' resume is thin, and I think the Repubs need to keep pounding on that theme, using Kerry quotes from the primaries as frequently as possible. How, for example, did Edwards go from needing OJT to fully qualified to be president in a few months? What did he do in the interim?


28 posted on 07/06/2004 8:17:20 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Kerry probably wnet with the best choice ( for HIM) out of the pack.

"Then there’s always the possibility that some skeletons will emerge from Edwards’ closet."

But will the Republicans have the savy to find them and the cojones to publicize them? Only time will tell but recent behavior by the GOP does not leave me sanguine on that possibility.


29 posted on 07/06/2004 8:18:08 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Mike Bates

Once again, John F'n Kerry decides to marry the richest woman in the room. You think Edwards insisted on a pre-nup?


30 posted on 07/06/2004 8:19:24 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: MadIvan; Registered


31 posted on 07/06/2004 8:19:38 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: MadIvan; Registered

Ooops.

That would make a nice bumper sticker.
Maybe Registered could expand on the idea?


32 posted on 07/06/2004 8:21:17 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: alloysteel; snopercod
I was wrong, apparently. I had thought that Hillary and Richardson would be the duo.

Yet, my sympathies for Edwards on that one point, still; Kerry's pick had to be somebody who would fall on his sword for Hillary's debut, and indeed, John Edwards sounds much like Bill Clinton.

33 posted on 07/06/2004 8:26:50 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: ZULU
But will the Republicans have the savy to find them and the cojones to publicize them?

Very possibly the party itself will not. But some sympathizers probably will. And the cable news channels will pick up and run with practically anything. Scott Peterson can only fill so many hours.

34 posted on 07/06/2004 8:27:10 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: bondjamesbond
You think Edwards insisted on a pre-nup?

Nah, he's too darn happy to even care. For him, it was either being selected by Kerry, or going back to work as a trial lawyer. Not much of a choice.

35 posted on 07/06/2004 8:29:22 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

A Pair of Gucci Loafers


36 posted on 07/06/2004 8:46:53 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Quilla

"In 1985, a 31-year-old North Carolina lawyer named John Edwards stood before a jury and channeled the words of an unborn baby girl.

Referring to an hour-by-hour record of a fetal heartbeat monitor, Mr. Edwards told the jury: "She said at 3, `I'm fine.' She said at 4, `I'm having a little trouble, but I'm doing O.K.' Five, she said, `I'm having problems.' At 5:30, she said, `I need out.' "

But the obstetrician, he argued in an artful blend of science and passion, failed to heed the call. By waiting 90 more minutes to perform a breech delivery, rather than immediately performing a Caesarean section, Mr. Edwards said, the doctor permanently damaged the girl's brain.

"She speaks to you through me," the lawyer went on in his closing argument. "And I have to tell you right now — I didn't plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She's inside me, and she's talking to you."

The jury came back with a $6.5 million verdict in the cerebral palsy case, and Mr. Edwards established his reputation as the state's most feared plaintiff's lawyer."

Did this guy vote for the partial-birth ban? I can't remember.

IMHO Evan Bayh saw this as a losing year and bowed out. Hillary knows the same and will actively work behind the scenes, along with Bubba, to make sure Kerry/Edwards lose. Then with 4 more years of W, they will attempt to create not just hatred of Republicans but irrational hatred. Oh, I forgot, we're already there.

As far as Edwards goes, he's a one-trick pony (Two Americas yada-yada-yada) who only entered the race to be the VP pick. A one-term Senator and a lawyer is not going to win over alot of independents. The VP-candidate cannot obscure the obvious - the total lack of conviction and charisma that is at the head of the ticket - John Effin Kerry!


37 posted on 07/06/2004 8:48:44 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: torchthemummy

Edwards voted against banning partial birth abortions.

Personally, I can't wait until Hillary unleashes her attacks against Kerry and Edwards. I take "Marital Infidelities for both Johns" for $200, Alex.


38 posted on 07/06/2004 9:14:04 AM PDT by Quilla (God bless America, President George W. Bush, our brave troops, and Freepers everywhere.)
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To: Mike Bates

The Soccer Moms will be swooning, but I don't think his impact will be felt in the South too much...especially in the deep South, but those are really locked in the R column. I think that he will have some impact in VA, NC, AR, and LA...and maybe some in OK. I think he will have the biggest impact in OH, PA, MI, WI, NV, NM, and the PNW. He is going to bring in a some core voters that were discouraged by Kerry winning the nomination. It won't be a lot, but it might be enough. It will probably help as much as Jack Kemp helped Dole. Without Kemp...Dole was dead in the water. Edwards' youth, life story, and looks will probably offset some of his liabilities such as experience (lack there of)...he is Clinton without the know sex scandals. I wonder if crap like Agnew/McGovern will come out over the next couple of weeks that will reduce the impact. This was a strategic pick...
I do find it interesting that once again the claimed party of the minorities/women have chosen once again, two white men. Where are the minorities? Bush was smart enough to chose a cabinet that represented America a little better and was not rife with scandal (unlike Clinton's), and was critized by the left for doing so.
I wonder if Bush will drop Cheney and grasp for "shock value". I wonder if Cheney will weigh him down like Quayle weighed his father down?


39 posted on 07/06/2004 9:18:14 AM PDT by Abram
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To: torchthemummy

You realize, of course, that the Democrats, and John Kerry in particular, have fired off the last clip of ammunition they had. Making the choice before the convention, takes away the supposed bump they would get after Boston. They will get a short-term boost in poll numbers now (that is, if George W. Bush's birthday doesn't dampen whatever little enthusiam the Democrats now have), and during the month of August, first the Olympics, then the late-season Republican convention will use up ALL the oxygen.

And at some level, the Democrats know the best days of this campaign are behind them.

John Kerry really doesn't like John Edwards very much. And it will show on the campaign trail.


40 posted on 07/06/2004 9:31:05 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Abram

41 posted on 07/06/2004 12:07:50 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Flush the Johns!


42 posted on 07/06/2004 12:11:41 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Mike Bates

A second Ho-Hum. Too many Ho-Hums for me this year! Richard Clarke, Ho-Hum, Bill Clinton's Summer Book Tour, Ho-Hum, Hillary Clinton, Ho-Hum, Bob Woodward, Ho-Hum,etc. Now that John Kerry is moving to the "middle", I guess Michael Moore, Harvey Weinstein and F-911 will become Ho-Hum too! Methinks the entire "traitor" Democrat Party will become Ho-Hum this November! Boring! These idiots are going down! Much ado about nothing!!!!!


43 posted on 07/06/2004 12:16:19 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
These idiots are going down!

Hope you're right about that.

44 posted on 07/06/2004 12:18:08 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Funny...my liberal brother offered me $$ to go and see the Moore trash at the theatre. I relied that I would rather prefer to pull a hot cookie sheet from the oven with my bare hand vs. see that dribble. No response.


45 posted on 07/06/2004 1:36:31 PM PDT by Abram
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To: Mike Bates

Kerrys running mate John Edwards IS ....

Jimmy Carter all over again. Watch how he approaches people to greet them and shake their hands. His demeanor and all is very Jimmy Carteresque. You know darn well Kerrys camp chose Edwards in order to get the southern vote.


46 posted on 07/06/2004 1:39:24 PM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Abram
Funny...my liberal brother offered me $$ to go and see the Moore trash at the theatre.

I would have pocketed the cash and gone to see Spiderman II. That's just me.

47 posted on 07/06/2004 2:09:46 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: SunnySide
Jimmy Carter all over again.

Lucky we don't have anymore canals to give away.

48 posted on 07/06/2004 2:13:11 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

That thought crossed my mind once or twice, but I was thinking Shrek 2...but that whole honesty thing my mom taught me...Kind of funny since he knows that I will not vote for Herman or the Ambulance chaser, but maybe he thinks I will be less committed to the cause.


49 posted on 07/06/2004 2:34:25 PM PDT by Abram
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