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Red-faced New York Post chooses wrong running-mate
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | July 7, 2004 - 12:08AM

Posted on 07/06/2004 7:48:47 AM PDT by dead

The tabloid New York Post was wiping egg from its face yesterday after identifying the wrong man in a front-page "exclusive" on Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's choice of running mate.

"Kerry's Choice" ran the banner headline in the Rupert Murdoch-owned newspaper, over a file photo of Kerry shaking hands with Congressman Richard Gephardt of Missouri.

The accompanying story analysed the "stunning" choice of Gephardt, stressing how the 63-year-old had managed to beat out the strong challenge of the youthful Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

But Kerry announced yesterday morning that he had actually chosen Edwards for his vice presidential candidate.

The newspaper's online edition further confused the issue by continuing to run the erroneous print version of the story next to a "breaking news" link declaring that Edwards would be the running mate.

The mistake meant that the Post, which has never shied away from highlighting the errors of its rivals, was forced to swallow some of its own medicine.

The CNN network gleefully showed off the Post front page, pointing out that Murdoch's News Corp, also owned CNN rival Fox News.

On its inside pages, the Post compounded its mistake with an analysis of what it believed to be Kerry's choice, saying Gephardt would be an asset to Kerry in key battleground states in the Midwest.

It also underlined Edwards' lack of experience as one of the main reasons why he had been passed over.

AFP


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: doh; edwards; gephardt; kerry; oops; veep
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Super boneheaded move by the NY Post. I buy the paper everyday and love it, but that’s just embarrassing. They're getting mocked all the way down under (the liberals in Australia hate Murdoch at least as much as the liberals in the US.)

The Post has already pulled the front page and the article off their website, but I have my copy.

Somebody’s heads going to roll. There’s no name on the article, oddly. If your “superscoop” reporter isn’t willing to put his (or her) name on the piece, you might not want to put it on your front page.

I suspect Deborah Orin, based on her boneheaded history.

1 posted on 07/06/2004 7:48:48 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead


this was a curveball.

never trust liberals bearing scoops.


2 posted on 07/06/2004 7:50:00 AM PDT by smonk
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To: dead
Dewey Defeats Truman!
3 posted on 07/06/2004 7:50:59 AM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: dead

I agree it was stupid to have that on the first page like it was a done deal.


4 posted on 07/06/2004 7:54:13 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone

Not necessarily. Free advertising.

Everyone knows the Post got it wrong and they probably went out in droves to buy the "mistakes".

It was a 50-50 call with no downside.

Pretty smart.


5 posted on 07/06/2004 7:56:22 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: smonk
Democrats, like Muslims, can't resist playing deception games. Just picking a guy and saying "here's my VP choice" just doesn't have that magical nuance.
6 posted on 07/06/2004 7:57:37 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: dead
The CNN network gleefully showed off the Post front page, pointing out that Murdoch's News Corp, also owned CNN rival Fox News.

Last I checked, the Post & Fox News had never been in bed with a murderous dictator.


7 posted on 07/06/2004 7:58:03 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Knees in the breeze)
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To: dead

Saw a guy on CNN a while ago, laughing about this and linking the paper to FoxNews. Glad to see the Clinton News Network lackies are still able to get their jollies.


8 posted on 07/06/2004 7:58:48 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: martin_fierro

Yep! While I agree that this was a bonehead move, there is a difference between an honest mistake (especially if this was suppose to be an inside scoop) and the deliberate distortions of the truth, run as news stories.

This is in no way comparable to the antics of Jason Blair, Eason Jordan and CNN...or the recent and deliberate misrepresentations over the 9/11 Commission's staff report.


9 posted on 07/06/2004 7:59:46 AM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: dead

I think it was KERRY who made the big mistake.


10 posted on 07/06/2004 8:00:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: dead

I wouldn't fault the NY Post. It may have very well been a Kerry operative that sent the Post scrambling to the presses with a fraudalent "scoop", that ended up being a pile of horse droppings.


11 posted on 07/06/2004 8:00:53 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: nuffsenuff
Pretty smart.

The New York Post is my favorite paper. They actually have investigative reporters, not just wire copy rewriters.

12 posted on 07/06/2004 8:01:15 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: dead

I'm sure that this was a scoop provided by the dems to embarass the 'conservative' Post. It's conservative compared to the NYT, WP, and LAT, but it's more of a cross between country club conservative/tabloid.

I'm just POed because I take the west coast edition and they print early...therefore I got a cover of people outside a building fire scene.

Would have been one for the collection.


13 posted on 07/06/2004 8:01:25 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: 1Old Pro
I think it was KERRY who made the big mistake.

That's the way I see it too.

14 posted on 07/06/2004 8:01:35 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: cwb

Maybe they'll learn a lesson to not take rumors or "scoops" and run them as bleeping huge bold typeface front page stories.


15 posted on 07/06/2004 8:03:39 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I wouldn't fault the NY Post. It may have very well been a Kerry operative that sent the Post scrambling to the presses with a fraudalent "scoop", that ended up being a pile of horse droppings.

That’s EXACTLY why I would blame the NY Post, and why I suspect it was Orin’s “scoop.”

You can’t maintain credibility if you let sleazy liberal political operatives make your editorial decisions for you. If you don’t have a source on the record, sit on the story until you do.

They got played like amateurs.

16 posted on 07/06/2004 8:06:13 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Or you can be like Newsweek and sit on it indefinately until Drudge makes world exclusive headlines. LOL


17 posted on 07/06/2004 8:07:43 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: nuffsenuff
Free advertising.

"There's no such thing as bad PR". It was esentially a big ole risk to do that, and I gotta hand it to them, whatever it was it worked to their advantage IMHO. Risks don't always work out, but can always be admired if they are honest.

I was going to put up the POST link on my site this morning, but decided against it. Then I decided not to even put one up at all until I can find the appropriate conservative leaning (or at least objective) story to post. The link at the POST is to the AP story, so I'm not going to put that one up. Any suggestions?

19 posted on 07/06/2004 8:10:32 AM PDT by numberonepal (goodnewsamerica.us Fast News For Common Sense People)
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To: dead

That's okay. Kerry did, too.

Of course, to be fair, none of these guys was going to be the right choice.


20 posted on 07/06/2004 8:14:41 AM PDT by RichInOC (Kerry-Edwards 2004-The Animaniacs Ticket: "I'm Yakko, I'm Wakko..." "...I'm cute.")
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To: dead

They got played like amateurs because that's exactly what they are. We may like their conservative slant on many issues, but the reality is that the NY Post is really just a crappy rag aimed at readers with a fifth-grade education.


21 posted on 07/06/2004 8:16:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Alberta's Child

The NY Post has one of the three or four best editorial pages in the country.


22 posted on 07/06/2004 8:18:50 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Kind of a sly way to dig at the actual choice by running an article stating all the reasons he won't be chosen.


23 posted on 07/06/2004 8:19:10 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: martin_fierro
Last I checked, the Post & Fox News had never been in bed with a murderous dictator.

You need to check a little closer, like this piece on Post/Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch and his son from the Wall Street Journal. Murdoch is all about making money, and while there is nothing inherently wrong with that, people should understand that Murdoch and his media outlets are only pro-American so long as that makes them a profit.
24 posted on 07/06/2004 8:19:30 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: dead
I suspect Deborah Orin, based on her boneheaded history.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the Post ran a column 'outing' the dem(s) who gave them the lie to publish? If the story has sources (which is surely did... surely), it is the source, not the Post, who lied.

25 posted on 07/06/2004 8:23:16 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Life is a quagmire. Get used to it.)
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To: dead

Check out this screen shot of the Post on-line.  Talk about confused...

27 posted on 07/06/2004 9:03:58 AM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: Vicomte de Valmont
Murdoch was editor and owner of the very conservative Times of London and Sunday Times prior to any US ventures.

Murdoch bought Britain's News of the World and Sun newspapers--conservative publications perhaps but with lots of pictures of naked ladies in them--in the early 1970s. He bought his first American newspaper in 1973, and the New York Post in 1976. He didn't buy the Times of London and Sunday Times until 1981.

I don't think the sincerity of their committment to conservative principles and America's primary role in preserving and defending them world-wide can be seriously questioned -- even for profit.
Did you read the article? It comes from the very conservative Wall Street Journal and it has facts that call into question the very thing you say cannot be questioned. To take just one small additional example, do you think the global warming movie The Day After Tomorrow promotes conservative, pro-American principles? Guess who's company is making millions off that movie!
28 posted on 07/06/2004 9:12:43 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: AnnaZ

What was on your front page?


29 posted on 07/06/2004 9:26:11 AM PDT by Feiny (I can resist anything but temptation.)
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To: smonk

Kerry did say he was going to "have some fun" today. Maybe this is what he meant.


30 posted on 07/06/2004 9:31:35 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter
if it was an intentional diversion, kerry may find out that
it's not really very smart to make enemies in the media, even
if it is a murdoch-owned tabloid.

newsies sorta stick together; lying to one of them is
severely frowned upon.
31 posted on 07/06/2004 9:34:26 AM PDT by smonk
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To: dead
How about this scenario... (tin foil hat time)

Kerry actually DID pick Gephardt yesterday and it was leaked to the Post.

However Kerry had to also inform Terry McAwful of his decision and Terry then immediately 'dropped a dime' to "The Beast" and SHE said "no way", it has to be the Breck Girl so he looses and she's safe for '08.

McAwful then calls Kerry back and informs him it better be Edwards or else he'd be 'Fosterized', Kerry then flops on his pick. Ergo NY Post gets it wrong.

Works for me :-)

32 posted on 07/06/2004 9:39:29 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: dead

tee hee


34 posted on 07/06/2004 9:48:56 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Alberta's Child
...the NY Post is really just a crappy rag aimed at readers with a fifth-grade education.
You sound like a Times reader (used to be one myself...). But now I absolutely love, love, love the Post. It makes me happy.

35 posted on 07/06/2004 10:02:12 AM PDT by AnnaZ ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." :::Hillar(ed)y!::: 6/28/04)
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To: AnnaZ
I despise the Post.

I vowed never to read that newspaper again after that day in early April when something like 10-15 U.S. military and civilian personnel were killed in Iraq at the beginning of the Fallujah uprising . . . and the lead story on the front page of the NY Post the following day was from the baseball game at Shea Stadium the night before.

I can handle a newspaper with political leanings one way or another, but I absolutely despise one that is so clearly a propaganda rag that it can't even pretend to be objective anymore.

And I stopped reading the NY Times about ten years ago, too.

36 posted on 07/06/2004 10:07:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Mike Bates

Aren't they both Newscorp companies?


37 posted on 07/06/2004 10:10:28 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: dead
Poor Gephardt gets B*tch slapped by the democraps again.

He used to be pro-life but had to sell his soul for the democruds and all they do is kick him around.

Gephardt has become the urinal of the dumbocrud party.

38 posted on 07/06/2004 10:19:15 AM PDT by M007
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To: Vicomte de Valmont
-- and I do indeed remember that blizzard in the early '90s that left NYC was under 4 ft of snow (rather than 50 ft in the movie). It was fun. I skiied to work in Midtown from the Upper East Side for 3 days.
It was the winter of '93-94... Park Avenue was nothing but car antennas poking through "moguls". Hilarious. A week later and Broadway was still under three feet of slush.
 
I spent the following January/February in South Beach I was so freaked by it (but alas! Manhattan didn't even get a flurry).

39 posted on 07/06/2004 10:22:07 AM PDT by AnnaZ ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." :::Hillar(ed)y!::: 6/28/04)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, perhaps having had to deal with the Los Angeles Times for years has made me loopy. The Post makes me smile. Maybe it's the propaganda. Maybe it's the full-page pics of Jeter.


40 posted on 07/06/2004 10:25:58 AM PDT by AnnaZ ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." :::Hillar(ed)y!::: 6/28/04)
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To: feinswinesuksass

I didn't get it today.

:(

(Although it sounds like it was different...)


41 posted on 07/06/2004 10:29:36 AM PDT by AnnaZ ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." :::Hillar(ed)y!::: 6/28/04)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Apparently, yes.


42 posted on 07/06/2004 10:30:00 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: drjimmy
Did you read the article? It comes from the very conservative Wall Street Journal and it has facts that call into question the very thing you say cannot be questioned. To take just one small additional example, do you think the global warming movie The Day After Tomorrow promotes conservative, pro-American principles? Guess who's company is making millions off that movie!

But the New York Post loses money every year. Some have estimated that it loses up to $40 million each year, which is not chump change. If Murdoch were only about making money, he would have pulled the plug on the Post a long time ago.

43 posted on 07/06/2004 10:30:54 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: dead

This is great news. Some Kerry flackie set up the NY Post to look stupid -- now the Post will be out for blood. Keep your eye on the Post for ever breaking new dirt on the Toilet Ticket. (Hey, I just made that up.)


44 posted on 07/06/2004 10:35:35 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: AnnaZ
I would usually prefer the Post over most papers myself. But posting a front-page headline for a baseball game the day after the U.S. sustained its worst casualty count since the war began is utterly disgraceful.

After that, I decided that Rupert Murdoch can shove a Sunday edition of his newspaper up his @ss.

45 posted on 07/06/2004 11:23:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: NYCVirago
But the New York Post loses money every year. Some have estimated that it loses up to $40 million each year, which is not chump change. If Murdoch were only about making money, he would have pulled the plug on the Post a long time ago.
In such a big corporation, lots of individual properties can lose money, but they still serve the greater bottom line. Fox loses millions on the NFL, for example, but it is still an important brand for News Corporation. Without trying to make it sound like a "vast right wing conspiracy," take note that many of the reporters and columnists that appear in the NY Post also appear on Fox News. The newspaper gives another marketing outlet for the Fox brand just as News Corporation's book publishing divisions like Reganbooks do. Retail stores call these "loss leaders."
46 posted on 07/06/2004 11:28:24 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: smonk

Chalabi strikes again.


47 posted on 07/06/2004 12:26:09 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all Things Truth Beareth Away the Victory")
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To: Vicomte de Valmont
Love your screen name!
48 posted on 07/06/2004 12:30:00 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: mhking

ping


49 posted on 07/06/2004 7:20:24 PM PDT by EveningStar
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