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Ancient European Remains Discovered In Qinghai (China)
Xinhuanet/China View ^ | 7-6-2004

Posted on 07/06/2004 11:02:03 AM PDT by blam

Ancient European remains discovered in Qinghai

www.chinaview.cn 2004-07-06 15:32:53

XINING, July 6 (Xinhuanet) -- Archeologists confirmed that the human skeletons discovered this May in northwest China's Qinghai Province belonged to three Europeans who lived in China over 1,900 years ago.

"The physical characteristics of the bones showed it is a typical European race," said Wang Minghui, an expert with the archeological institute under the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

The skeletons were spotted at Zhongchuan Town of the province's eastern most Minhe Hui and Tu Autonomous County.

Since 2002, archeologists have unearthed nine tombs of Han Dynasty (206 BC-220 AD) at a construction site of a brickfield in the town, but it was not until this May that they felt the skeletons in two tombs "very special", said Ren Xiaoyan, deputy director if the provincial archeological institute, who added they invited Wang, who specializes in human bone identification, to take part in the study on the findings.

Qinghai is on the southern section of the world-known land trade corridor -- the Silk Road, linking China with Central and Western Asia and to the eastern shores of the Mediterranean begins in the country's northwest and runs 7,000 kilometers.

Serving as an important bridge for the economic and cultural exchanges between the East and the West, the area, which the Silk Road covered in China, used to see throngs of Indian, Persian, Arabic, Greek and Roman people.

Ren said the tomb shape, the burial articles and the way they were put in the tomb are all typical in Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220), which proved the three westerners had lived here for a long time and were accustomed to local traditions and customs.

"Although so far, we have been not sure of the country the three Europeans came from and there might be a large number of such 'westerners' living here at the ancient time," said Ren.

Such European skeletons have only been revealed in northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, a neighboring region which is to the northwest of Qinghai, so the discovery this time is of great importance for the study of the ancient society in Qinghai, said Wang. Enditem


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To: sphinx

Roman times...was Christianity taken to China 1900 years ago?


21 posted on 07/06/2004 3:12:15 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
"I live in Panama and there are NO white Indians here. The author is confused with the Kuna Yala Indians who live in the San Blas Islands (Atlantic coast). They have a high rate of albinos due to their closed society (interbreeding) and not due to being some kind of white race."

"Again…there are no white Indians in Panama."

Okay, thanks. I had never heard about the Kuna until you mentioned it.

22 posted on 07/06/2004 3:17:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: madison10
"Roman times...was Christianity taken to China 1900 years ago?"

Apparently as early as 86AD.

Christian Designs Found In Tombstone Of Eastern Han Dynasty

"When studying a batch of stone carvings of Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220 A.D.) stored and exhibited in the Museum of Xuzhou Han Stone Carvings, Christian theology professor Wang Weifan was greatly surprised by some stone engravings demonstrating the Bible stories and designs of early Christian times."

23 posted on 07/06/2004 3:23:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: madison10
was Christianity taken to China 1900 years ago?

A form of Christianity did reach China after sweeping through Syria, Iraq, Iran, India, and Afghanistan. It was popular until Islam.

24 posted on 07/06/2004 3:26:49 PM PDT by RightWhale (Establish private property rights to outer space and eliminate public access easements on earth)
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To: Docbarleypop
"The Mandans of America???? I am from Mandan ND where the Mandan tribe is from and the decendents are as stereotypical Native American/Indian in appearence as you would think possible."

Wasn't it contained in a report of the Lewis & Clark expedition that some members of the expedition communicated with the Mandans in Welsh? Also, I've read much speculation that the Mandans may be the remnants of the Prince Madoc (Welsh) group that came to the US in 1170AD...Lately I've read 540AD.

What's you take on this?

25 posted on 07/06/2004 4:05:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Evening bump.


26 posted on 07/06/2004 6:40:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; blam; NukeMan; ...
"XINING, July 6 (Xinhuanet) -- Archeologists confirmed that the human skeletons discovered this May in northwest China's Qinghai Province belonged to three Europeans who lived in China over 1,900 years ago. "

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27 posted on 07/06/2004 7:23:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: AppyPappy
how do they know that the skeletons are westerners?

Must be other stuff with the remains. Western stuff. Spurs and bluejeans.

28 posted on 07/06/2004 7:26:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Establish private property rights to outer space and eliminate public access easements on earth)
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To: blam

"That whole Xinjiang Uygur Autonomus Region is covered with Caucasian skeletons and mummies that date to 2,000BC. The Chinese skeletons and mummies do not start to show up in that region until about 100BC."

VERY interesting. I'll read the book you are recommending.


29 posted on 07/06/2004 7:26:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: AppyPappy
Uhhh, how do they know that the skeletons are westerners?

Cowboy hats in the graves?

30 posted on 07/06/2004 7:36:18 PM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: RightWhale; madison10
A form of Christianity did reach China after sweeping through Syria, Iraq, Iran, India, and Afghanistan. It was popular until Islam.

Nestorians, if I recall correctly.

31 posted on 07/06/2004 7:40:07 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: FairOpinion
" I'll read the book you are recommending."

Here's a good companion book on the same subject. Dr Barber and Goode make a textile connection of these people to Halstadt, Austria. They were part of a group of specialized scientists recruited by Dr Victor Mair for this investigation.

The Mummies Of Urumchi

32 posted on 07/06/2004 7:40:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Thanks.

This is really fascinating.


33 posted on 07/06/2004 7:44:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: sphinx

In Africa.


34 posted on 07/06/2004 8:20:06 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: blam

The earliest (known) contacts were via the cinnamon routes. It was a long LONG time ago. Its not inconcievable that someone, probably many actually, travelled back to China and just stayed.


35 posted on 07/06/2004 8:22:24 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: AppyPappy
Uhhh, how do they know that the skeletons are westerners?

Cowboy boots.

36 posted on 07/06/2004 8:34:45 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: blam

I love stuff like this. Thanks so much for posting it.


37 posted on 07/06/2004 8:47:32 PM PDT by Artist
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To: blam
The Mummies of Urumchi
by Elizabeth Wayland Barber
The Tarim Mummies:
Ancient China and the Mystery
of the Earliest Peoples from the West

by J. P. Mallory,
Victor H. Mair

38 posted on 07/06/2004 9:01:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge

"Maybe they moved there to open a restaurant?"

Especially if they were Greek !



39 posted on 07/06/2004 9:02:26 PM PDT by PoorMuttly ("BE Reagan !")
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To: maui_hawaii
"The earliest (known) contacts were via the cinnamon routes. It was a long LONG time ago. Its not inconcievable that someone, probably many actually, travelled back to China and just stayed."

I think you're missing the point completely. These people lived there for thousands of years...they lived there for 2,000 (or more) years before any Chinese appeared in the region. There are whole villages, graveyards, dessicated fruit groves, etc. They weren't just passing through. Then there came a severe climate change and the streams and lakes dried up.

40 posted on 07/06/2004 9:06:56 PM PDT by blam
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