Posted on 07/08/2004 9:57:50 AM PDT by kattracks
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) Democrats John Kerry and John Edwards, on their first trip together to the state that narrowly put President Bush in the White House after a fierce recount and court fight in 2000, promised Thursday that "every vote is going to be counted" this year.The presidential candidate told thousands of screaming supporters gathered in an airport hanger in Broward County, ground zero in the recount, that he's discovered that Edwards' two young children, ages 6 and 4, were "good at math."
"Those kids really know how to count," Kerry said. "I've given them a special duty in this election. We're sending Jack and Emma Claire down there to help those Republicans in West Palm Beach count those votes."
As the crowd erupted, Kerry boomed: "I've got news for you. In 2004, not only does every vote in Florida count but every vote is going to be counted."
Kerry said elections officials in Florida still are trying to fix voting machines. "I'll make a deal with them," he said. "They fix those machines and we'll fix America!"
The campaign visit to Florida just two days after Kerry chose Edwards as his vice presidential running mate underscored the importance of the state that Bush won by 537 votes over Democrat Al Gore in the disputed 2000 election.
Recent polls show Bush and Kerry locked in a close race in their battle for the state's 27 electoral votes, the largest prize of the battleground states and a 10th of the total needed to win the White House.
Since March, each campaign has spent more than $10 million in television commercials in Florida, where the president's brother Jeb easily won re-election as governor in 2002.
The only Democrats to carry the state in the last three decades are Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Bill Clinton 20 years later even though Florida has about 300,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans.
From Florida, Kerry and Edwards were headed to New York City for a concert fund raiser featuring the Dave Matthews Band, Mary J. Blige, John Mellencamp, Jon Bon Jovi, Wyclef Jean, Whoopi Goldberg and others.
The $7 million the concert raised will be divided between Kerry's campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Last month, a similar concert in Los Angeles raised $5 million.
Oh good! That means with the military vote being counted this election,President Bush will win by an even larger margin this time around.
The problem was that non-votes were being counted.
They're still hung up about Floriduh. Its still not out of their system after all these years. Funny coming from the party that told us to move on after Clinton.
Whew, I am sure glad I've never given ANY of these losers ANY of my money.
yea,every vote will be counted this year, as it was in 2000. duh.
Right and what they don't admit to is that all the Supreme Court ordered was that the FL recounts (which Bush won again and again) had to be certified by the FL Sec State or FL's electoral votes would have been nullified, which would have thrown the election into the House of Representatives. President Bush would have been elected by the House, anyway.
Unless, of course, they're military absentee ballots.
No one should have a problem with having every vote counted. What Al Gore wanted in 2000 was to change the legal definition of a "vote" changed once the election was over. He wanted things which were not, and never have been, considered a "vote" -- e.g., "dimples" -- counted. Count all the votes! Don't count those ballot which do not reflect a legal vote.
I hope they keep right on banging that drum.
I suppose this kind of thing appeals to their deluded base, but I should think many of the voters in Florida would be tired of hearing this nonsense by now.
Maybe they'll not only count the military ballots, but let the folks in the Panhandle finish voting as well.
I hope we have plenty of Republican poll watchers in Broward and Miami-Dade. We can't count on SCOTUS again, I don't think, because they seem to have moved further left the past year or two.
First of all, ALL votes WERE counted, and secondly, it wasn't the Republicans who were having trouble counting.
We've gotten to an age where any lie is acceptable to spew. Kerry knows he's lying. He's simply scum.
Good! This time my vote will count. I was in Japan and voted absentee last year. I was most offended when some RAT POS said my vote didn't count the last time. Now I want to tell the Rats to "Bring it on"...
Kat, ya beat me to it! BTW, just reading this article was beyond belief. Assbreath Kerry STILL has not made one explicit comment on why he thinks he should be Prez. This guy has zero ideas to differentiate himself from his adversary. Un-Effin-believable!
You stated what I was thinking which was "even the military too". I remember how the demoncRATS wanted to eliminate the military vote.
Sort of like a football team that can only win 'away' games, where what they 'really are all about' is still an 'unknown' and once they get to know you, they can live without you.
And that definition kept changing from county to county to improve the Gore totals.
They key here is that the will want to count every vote - at least, the ones they want counted.
Just like in 2000.
And they'll have the lawyers to prove it.
What about the Military vote?
Qualify, identify, verify then vote.
I find the fact that John Edwards lost his own state of NC 'reflective' that the Dem's have a sincere 'home field' DIS-advantage!
Sorry 'bout that! Gotta read these before hitting that POST key! ;-)
Oh, Goody. Hey Lurch, I was free years old when I learned to count. Never got to a billion ($) though.
And counted and counted and counted until Kerry wins!
West Palm Beach is staunchly democrat, you no talent assclown.
Sounds like another call for voter fraud from the Democrats.
Yep, daddy lets them add up his 33% fees from his lawsuits.
Exactly!
It was Democrats who couldn't get it right!
Works for me, the President won every recount in Floriduh.
The fact Kerry and Edwards pretend otherwise just demonstrates they are completely unfit for the Whitehouse.
Hey Kat, don't forget the FL panhandle voters too. They got robbed when NBC called the race for Gore, and then switched it back to Bush after 5 minutes, but the damage was done because discouraged panhandle voters went home.
My dh and I vote by absentee ballot (in FL) since he is AD Army and we are stationed in AL. I seriously wonder if our votes were counted. I believe the problem was not counting the ballots from overseas though. However, the thought that we might have been dienfranchised is and was very eye-opening.
AND if they voted for Buchanan then they REALLY meant to vote for Gore. Dims are a bunch of mindreaders when it comes to vote counting.
Possibly learning from their previous mistakes. I say possibly, because I won't hold my breath on the pretense that this is the same thing Gore said while re-counting in only 4 heavily Democratic counties while shredding the military ballots.
Memo to lurkers and the DNC:
The votes WERE counted and Bush STILL won.
The Washington Post, the NYT and CNN all counted the votes in Florida and Bush still won.
Why the administration didn't have the RNC on all the talk shows touting this information repeatedly and taking the lies away from the DNC is beyond me.
Military votes.....Northern Florida (70-Rep.) not voted
because of TV for early Gore as winner...Wonder who the few
Buchanan voters will go t?..Kerry or Bush....Nader still
there for his votes....After Jeb won big...in '02...and
Clinton was one of the reasons...I would say that Florida
will not need any recounts....Bush- 54- Kerry- 42- Rest-4.
Jake
Not only were fraudulent votes for democrat being counted, but valid military votes for the GOP were being ripped up.
I have one vote for them, my middle finger upward!
If they couldn't win in 2000, and in 2002, what makes Kerry/Edwards think they're going to win this year?
I am tired of hearing about dimpled chads. Ohio has the same type of ballots Florida did. First the voting machine explicitly states (in Ohio at least) to push the poker all the way in. Second, I tried to make a dimpled chad and it is very hard to press just hard enough to make a dimple but not hard enough to punch through. At least it is if you are only punching one ballot at a time. It might be easier to dimple chads on the bottom one when voting with a whole stack of ballots.
Of course he is. He lied about revealing John Edwards as his running mate via e-mail to Democrats on the DNC e-mail list. The e-mail showed up, after the whole country found out by turning their TV's on.
Bush won the Florida vote count on election night, and he won the mandatory recount two days later. For those who think the US Supreme Court stole it for Bush, it should be pointed out to them that whenever legal votes were counted, Bush won. It was Al Gore who dragged the whole thing into court, not Bush.
Not just that, but in one of those counties (Dade), the Dems started slow walking the recount once they hit the more Republican Cuban precincts.
They weren't counting votes. They were torturing every ballot until it confessed a vote for Gore.
" "I'll make a deal with them," he said. "They fix those machines and we'll fix America!"
That quote is rich with inference towards vote fraud.
They just don't WANT to remember it as it really happened. It's really a mental illness with these people.
Of course they will be counted, the only question is how many times!
Tell the lie, tell it often enough and it becomes the truth.
The only votes NOT counted in Florida in 2000 were those from which NO determination could be made of the voter's intent, those cast by unregistered voters, and those absentee military votes that were suppressed by the "party of the people" Democrats.
That said, Broward, County, Miami-Dade County, Palm Beach County are three of the four Democrat strongholds in Florida. So when the John-Johns talk about the REPUBLICANS suppressing or not counting votes in those counties, they don't know what the h*ll they are talking about. The elections supervisors in those counties are all Democrats.
What a dimpled chad in the "Gore box" told me is that a person hovered over Gore's name on the ballot for a few moments, but then thought better of voting for the big goof. The biggest problem with the "recount" in Florida is that Democrats and election officials thought they could "divine" the intent of the voter whenever they came across a dippled chad. The explanation is simple: a dippled chad meant that a person may have THOUGHT about voting for Gore, but in the end, didn't.
Right and let's hope every vote is only counted once. We'll hold kerry and edwards to their word that every vote is counted, not recounted, and recounted, and recounted.
I'm sure they want to "fix' the machines, and the DNC is working real hard on that project!
That's exactly right. What a bunch of crap. Everyone knows that Palm Beach is a heavily DEMOCRATIC county, and the supervisor of elections there is a DEMOCRAT. The poll workers were mostly DEMOCRATS. Plus, it was the DEMOCRATS who couldn't figure out how to punch the holes. (we'd been using those punch cards in our county for years and never had a problem. But then again, our county is strongly REPUBLICAN, and apparently, educated)
They will never get over their 2000 election loss, and like true Democrats, will continue to blame someone else for their shortcomings.
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